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Medicine 2025 entry -part 3

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HGC2 · 19/12/2024 21:26

Will try to add old threads, maybe good for us to give an update of where our DCs are at

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islaoo · 07/03/2025 15:51

Saw a tenuous suggestion on TSR that Plymouth offers and rejections are coming out next week..

Just the one offer from Lincoln here so far, waiting on Plymouth and still nothing for us from Leicester so assume she’s on some unofficial waitlist there as both offers and rejections have come out for others so I’d guess she’s somewhere borderline.

After initial happiness about Lincoln she’s starting to say she might redo ucat just in case she gets good A level grades and a much better ucat, and will then reapply to the unis she actually wanted to apply to in the first place - she keeps being told Lincoln is a uni for ‘thick people’ by the lovely kids in her grammar school. Obviously we keep telling her medicine is a totally different ballgame (and also what a snobby thing to say anyway).. but I really hope the offer holder day convinces her otherwise as I can’t deal with another year of this!!

is it really true that medicine is medicine and her chances of future employment (including abroad if needed) are not hindered by a non Russell group degree. although I think she’d actually get a Nottingham degree so maybe it’s indistinguishable.. she’s just getting cold feet about future work chances if she takes the offer.

well done on all the new offers coming in and sorry to hear of the not so good news. This is not a fun time!

Nickyjayyy · 07/03/2025 16:02

My DD has been put on hold for UOB. anyone have any idea what her chances of getting in are?

WeCantGoOverIt · 07/03/2025 16:10

islaoo · 07/03/2025 15:51

Saw a tenuous suggestion on TSR that Plymouth offers and rejections are coming out next week..

Just the one offer from Lincoln here so far, waiting on Plymouth and still nothing for us from Leicester so assume she’s on some unofficial waitlist there as both offers and rejections have come out for others so I’d guess she’s somewhere borderline.

After initial happiness about Lincoln she’s starting to say she might redo ucat just in case she gets good A level grades and a much better ucat, and will then reapply to the unis she actually wanted to apply to in the first place - she keeps being told Lincoln is a uni for ‘thick people’ by the lovely kids in her grammar school. Obviously we keep telling her medicine is a totally different ballgame (and also what a snobby thing to say anyway).. but I really hope the offer holder day convinces her otherwise as I can’t deal with another year of this!!

is it really true that medicine is medicine and her chances of future employment (including abroad if needed) are not hindered by a non Russell group degree. although I think she’d actually get a Nottingham degree so maybe it’s indistinguishable.. she’s just getting cold feet about future work chances if she takes the offer.

well done on all the new offers coming in and sorry to hear of the not so good news. This is not a fun time!

In the UK the differences between courses in terms of employment are pretty minimal and with the current F1 system won’t impact until you try to get a specialist training placement - at which point I do wonder about St Andrew’s new Community based medical degree. If you are looking abroad the situation varies between countries and over time. For example Singapore does recognise degrees from University of Nottingham but currently not from Plymouth, though that might change.

WeCantGoOverIt · 07/03/2025 16:23

Apart from St Andrew’s community based course the difference will not be down to prestige or not but rather the course itself - including focus/research around your favoured specialism and maybe difference in eg teaching research and any potential ongoing opportunities. Things you probably won’t find out until you are there.

In terms of prestige of university and course - remember Cambridge University are considering closing their vet school because they are at risk of losing their accreditation…

mumsneedwine · 07/03/2025 16:57

It makes no difference where you go even for speciality posts. All down to points or MRSA exam. Do not listen to anyone telling them otherwise - getting an offer is hard and it is v v risky to try again.

ItsYourMoneyRalf · 07/03/2025 17:12

islaoo · 07/03/2025 15:51

Saw a tenuous suggestion on TSR that Plymouth offers and rejections are coming out next week..

Just the one offer from Lincoln here so far, waiting on Plymouth and still nothing for us from Leicester so assume she’s on some unofficial waitlist there as both offers and rejections have come out for others so I’d guess she’s somewhere borderline.

After initial happiness about Lincoln she’s starting to say she might redo ucat just in case she gets good A level grades and a much better ucat, and will then reapply to the unis she actually wanted to apply to in the first place - she keeps being told Lincoln is a uni for ‘thick people’ by the lovely kids in her grammar school. Obviously we keep telling her medicine is a totally different ballgame (and also what a snobby thing to say anyway).. but I really hope the offer holder day convinces her otherwise as I can’t deal with another year of this!!

is it really true that medicine is medicine and her chances of future employment (including abroad if needed) are not hindered by a non Russell group degree. although I think she’d actually get a Nottingham degree so maybe it’s indistinguishable.. she’s just getting cold feet about future work chances if she takes the offer.

well done on all the new offers coming in and sorry to hear of the not so good news. This is not a fun time!

I would say the only people who ate thick in this scenario are her grammar school "mates"

NoNotHimTheOtherOne · 07/03/2025 17:21

After initial happiness about Lincoln she’s starting to say she might redo ucat just in case she gets good A level grades and a much better ucat, and will then reapply to the unis she actually wanted to apply to in the first place - she keeps being told Lincoln is a uni for ‘thick people’ by the lovely kids in her grammar school. Obviously we keep telling her medicine is a totally different ballgame (and also what a snobby thing to say anyway).. but I really hope the offer holder day convinces her otherwise as I can’t deal with another year of this!!

This would be a horrendously risky thing to do. There is no guarantee at all that she'd be successful in getting a place at another medical school next year, even if she does have a better UCAT score. The only grounds for doing it would be that she'd rather do a non-medicine course at a more prestigious university than medicine at Lincoln.

Something we try to drill into medical students (or any other students, for that matter) in their first couple of years is the importance of judging the reliability of sources. In the hierarchy of reliable sources, some-snobby-kids-in-a-selective-school comes very close to the bottom, just above an official statement by the president of the United States of America. In any case, she will only be at the university for 2 years: she will be in hospitals and GP surgeries for most of the rest of the time.

is it really true that medicine is medicine and her chances of future employment (including abroad if needed) are not hindered by a non Russell group degree. although I think she’d actually get a Nottingham degree so maybe it’s indistinguishable.. she’s just getting cold feet about future work chances if she takes the offer.

The 2025 cohort is expected to be the last that receive University of Nottigham degrees. Lincoln intends to deliver its own MBBS programme from the 2026 intake (subject to GMC approval). I don't know what will happen to students who start the programme in 2025 but drop back a year as a result of failing a year or having health problems that force a temporary leave of absence. It will depend on the agreement they have in place with Nottingham whether those students graduate with degrees from Nottingham or Lincoln.

Which university you studied at is not a factor in selection criteria for either foundation training or any specialist training programmes. All UK medical students now do the same final exam, so they have all demonstrated the same learning outcomes at the same level. The additional factors that might come into play for postgraduate training posts include distinctions, prizes, research presentations/publications, etc. There are opportunities to undertake these in any medical school, although the laboratory-based opportunities might be greater in larger institutions. There will be opportunities to get involved in audit/service-improvement projects in any hospital trust, and many medical schools will have partnerships with local authorities (public health) and third-sector organisations that can host projects. (The relative disadvantage for UK-trained vs overseas-trained doctors for these criteria has been well aired in various threads. This is something NHS England and counterparts in the rest of the UK need to sort out: it doesn't come down to differences between medical schools within the UK.)

As others have said, some countries (notably Singapore) only recognise certain medical degrees from other countries. The USA is moving in something like the same direction but I think this is more for the purposes of making registering bodies in other countries provide information about their requirements & standards rather than as an attempt to reduce the number of foreign doctors. There's no obvious suggestion they would refuse to recognise a degree from a particular university: they would refuse to recognise any from the whole country if the registering body wasn't on its approved list.

WeCantGoOverIt · 07/03/2025 18:52

NoNotHimTheOtherOne yes that is what I meant by differences between different universities. Whilst all universities teach all subjects, they will each have different areas of focus for research. If you go to a university with a big research team well recognised in an area that you wish to specialise in then you are more likely to be able to get contacts to help with research/further knowledge in that specialism that if your university focused on research in other specialisms.

justjuggling · 07/03/2025 19:18

Offer just in from Sheffield. Mainly relief rather than excitement but that’ll come. Whatever the last 2 say now she gets to go to medical school!!

It has been a 2 year process; tears, resilience, determination and the ultimate reward. 🙂

mumsneedwine · 07/03/2025 20:21

@justjuggling 🥂🥂 huge congratulations

cosygingerkitten · 07/03/2025 20:37

Massive congratulations @justjuggling that's brilliant it came today after a disappointment. Mine just got a Sheffield offer too this evening and she's over the moon. Its been tough waiting
Fingers crossed that offers are delivered to everyone waiting.

mumsneedwine · 07/03/2025 21:00

That one feels oh so nice 

justjuggling · 07/03/2025 22:08

mumsneedwine · 07/03/2025 20:21

@justjuggling 🥂🥂 huge congratulations

Thank you for your many kind PMs and the advice you gave. Am hugely grateful to you.

justjuggling · 07/03/2025 22:08

cosygingerkitten · 07/03/2025 20:37

Massive congratulations @justjuggling that's brilliant it came today after a disappointment. Mine just got a Sheffield offer too this evening and she's over the moon. Its been tough waiting
Fingers crossed that offers are delivered to everyone waiting.

Congratulations! Maybe we’ll bump into each other at the offer holders day!

ipredictariot5 · 07/03/2025 22:24

Delight here tonight too with a Sheffield offer that is AA instead of Manchester’s A A
Sheffield wasn’t an option last year with UCAT and when DD improved her score and I researched it I thought it would be exactly the right place for her. Thank you to everyone for their best wishes and support - it’s been a tough time since A level results last year

ipredictariot5 · 07/03/2025 22:29

few thoughts about upthread discussion - no one cares where you went to medical school when you qualify. I trained at and now teach/ interview at another established red brick med school and many are too big with too many students to teach well. Med schools like BSMS HYMS Keele were all new and looked down on when they started and they turn out the best doctors and as they are smaller and being accrediated the student experience is much better. I always agree with @mumneedswine you only need one offer and that’s true
medicine is going through a tricky phase with terrible workforce planning. But assuming we get through that I have never once regretted going to medical school ( many decades ago now) and still love being a doctor every day

ipredictariot5 · 07/03/2025 22:32

justjuggling · 07/03/2025 19:18

Offer just in from Sheffield. Mainly relief rather than excitement but that’ll come. Whatever the last 2 say now she gets to go to medical school!!

It has been a 2 year process; tears, resilience, determination and the ultimate reward. 🙂

Maybe our DC will be meeting up IRL next year !!

Sybill · 07/03/2025 22:52

Wonderful news @ipredictariot5 - am so happy for your DD, she had such a tough time last year. And how great to have an offer which takes the pressure off a bit. Loved Sheffield when we visited, my own DD wanted to apply too but UCAT made it too risky - congrats 🥂

cosygingerkitten · 07/03/2025 22:54

ipredictariot5 · 07/03/2025 22:24

Delight here tonight too with a Sheffield offer that is AA instead of Manchester’s A A
Sheffield wasn’t an option last year with UCAT and when DD improved her score and I researched it I thought it would be exactly the right place for her. Thank you to everyone for their best wishes and support - it’s been a tough time since A level results last year

Fantastic! Brilliant news

Optimum19 · 07/03/2025 23:31

Brilliant news on the offers this week. Congratulations to all!

Best wishes to those still waiting on their first offer. Maybe next week will bring the news you're waiting for.

maybemedmum · 08/03/2025 07:11

What a flurry of good news with the Sheffield offers. Congratulations all round. Sounds like a roller coaster day at the @justjuggling house - I hope she's delighted when the dust settles.

Let's hope next week brings more good news, especially for those still waiting for a first offer.

Thefatbutteredpig · 08/03/2025 20:15

islaoo · 07/03/2025 15:51

Saw a tenuous suggestion on TSR that Plymouth offers and rejections are coming out next week..

Just the one offer from Lincoln here so far, waiting on Plymouth and still nothing for us from Leicester so assume she’s on some unofficial waitlist there as both offers and rejections have come out for others so I’d guess she’s somewhere borderline.

After initial happiness about Lincoln she’s starting to say she might redo ucat just in case she gets good A level grades and a much better ucat, and will then reapply to the unis she actually wanted to apply to in the first place - she keeps being told Lincoln is a uni for ‘thick people’ by the lovely kids in her grammar school. Obviously we keep telling her medicine is a totally different ballgame (and also what a snobby thing to say anyway).. but I really hope the offer holder day convinces her otherwise as I can’t deal with another year of this!!

is it really true that medicine is medicine and her chances of future employment (including abroad if needed) are not hindered by a non Russell group degree. although I think she’d actually get a Nottingham degree so maybe it’s indistinguishable.. she’s just getting cold feet about future work chances if she takes the offer.

well done on all the new offers coming in and sorry to hear of the not so good news. This is not a fun time!

My dd was in a similar position two years ago. On results day, she dropped a grade and ended up at a non- red brick uni.

Two years on and shes never looked back and is loving life where she ended up

Lincoln is a lovely little city and turning it down with no guarantees she would get a place next again year might not be the best idea.

2kidsand1dog · 09/03/2025 08:40

My DD is a first year medic at Sheffield - happy to answer any questions ☺️

ipredictariot5 · 09/03/2025 12:55

islaoo · 07/03/2025 15:51

Saw a tenuous suggestion on TSR that Plymouth offers and rejections are coming out next week..

Just the one offer from Lincoln here so far, waiting on Plymouth and still nothing for us from Leicester so assume she’s on some unofficial waitlist there as both offers and rejections have come out for others so I’d guess she’s somewhere borderline.

After initial happiness about Lincoln she’s starting to say she might redo ucat just in case she gets good A level grades and a much better ucat, and will then reapply to the unis she actually wanted to apply to in the first place - she keeps being told Lincoln is a uni for ‘thick people’ by the lovely kids in her grammar school. Obviously we keep telling her medicine is a totally different ballgame (and also what a snobby thing to say anyway).. but I really hope the offer holder day convinces her otherwise as I can’t deal with another year of this!!

is it really true that medicine is medicine and her chances of future employment (including abroad if needed) are not hindered by a non Russell group degree. although I think she’d actually get a Nottingham degree so maybe it’s indistinguishable.. she’s just getting cold feet about future work chances if she takes the offer.

well done on all the new offers coming in and sorry to hear of the not so good news. This is not a fun time!

Agree with all said. Smaller newer med schools give far better training and experience - Manchester and Liverpool students get nowhere near the quality experience they once had. Plus for newer med schools the local medics and hospitals are very invested and put work into the students
med students usually stick together and a lot
of social events. It really doesn’t matter where you are. My DC who had the worse student experience went to Manchester which is supposed to be one of the best. He was miserable and lonely despite this.

islaoo · 09/03/2025 13:08

Thanks everyone for your replies about Lincoln - we’re not a medic family so don’t really know anything about what happens post uni (though gleaning some info from here) so that’s all really useful information. My understanding is if you need to skip a year for health reasons etc fhen you’d need to complete your degree via Nottingham. Her offer is from Nottingham university not Lincoln.

I totally agree with everything you’ve said and think it would be hugely risky to not take up a place in hand (assuming A levels go to plan). I also think Lincoln looks a good fit for DD, small and possibly more nurturing than the bigger unis, and a safe smaller city too. She’s not a big party person, but in her words just wants to find some good like minded friends to have a social life with. I think her worry is being in halls with people out partying all the time but hopefully they try to put the medics / healthcare students with fuller timetables together..

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