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Regrets about Oxbridge rejectiin...bought up by New Edwards

103 replies

mids2019 · 17/09/2024 06:58

So part of Huws apparent mental health struggles was apparently feel seated low self esteem partly by failure to get into Oxford when perhaps he was expected to and he was surrounded by Oxbridge educated peers at the BBC.

Moving away from. The odious crime do you think spoke can have such a deep seated reaction to Oxbridge rejection and does it least??

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JohnCravensNewsround · 17/09/2024 08:44

I flunked my A levels and didn't go to Uni, my big regret. I did a masters in my 30s whilst working full time with 2 little kids
Get over yourself is my view.

ErrolTheDragon · 17/09/2024 08:45

It's a ridiculous excuse. You don't commit a CSA crime because you've got a decades old chip on your shoulder.

I looked up a few well known newsreaders... some of them hadn't been to uni at all, worked their way up from the bottom.

Ames74 · 17/09/2024 08:46

I don't believe this excuse AT ALL.

Also ridiculous to claim he felt like an outsider at the BBC. As their most high profile and highly paid newsreader? Sure Huw 🙄🙄

MellersSmellers · 17/09/2024 08:55

Sethera · 17/09/2024 07:17

I could understand someone being deeply upset at the time and perhaps even for a few years afterwards. But this happened to him more than 40 years ago, and he went on to get a First at the university he went to and then to have an extremely successful career; so it's scraping the barrel, as pp said, to use this as an excuse for his behaviour now.

People have all sorts of genuinely traumatic experiences in their lives, but they don't all go on to view child sexual abuse material.

Absolutely

Howdull · 17/09/2024 09:00

just wonder if he had to write out a timeline of times he felt negative emotions and the barrister went through and made some stories/excuses.

I strongly suspect that this did actually happen. Think you've hit the nail on the head there

EHCPerhaps · 17/09/2024 09:07

Honestly this is a terrible thing to try to pin his crimes on and/or he’s had really really terrible PR advice.

Biggirlnow · 17/09/2024 09:19

Obviously not an excuse for his crimes.

However, I know someone who received an offer from Oxford but missed the grades. Most of her extended family went to Oxford or Cambridge and she really didn't enjoy the uni she went to. I think it has really affected her although they don't talk about it.

Floralspecscase · 17/09/2024 09:19

UnimaginableWindBird · 17/09/2024 08:01

Rationally, I think I'm happier and did better in my non-Oxbridge university than I would done if I hadn't fucked up my A-levels. But if I'm honest, emotionally I still feel sick and shaky when I think about it, and I'm 50 now with plenty of life experience behind me. I was under so much pressure from other people and still feel deep shame for letting them down. I've met enough miserable Oxbridge graduates to know that I'm actually lucky to have escaped from that pressure that made me mentally ill at 17 rather than 21, and I would never say this in real life, but it was genuinely one of the defining bad moments of my life, and I have genuinely felt like a failure ever since. I realize that this makes me sound like a complete wanker with no resilience (which is probably true) and it's certainly no excuse for terrible behaviour, but it is an emotional burden that I don't feel I've been able to lay down properly. My children are in their GCSE and A-levels years now, and I'm really pleased that they value themselves outside of achievements that other people can brag about, and are generally not fragile people-pleasing perfectionists like I was.

No, you don't sound remotely like a wanker with no resilience. Quite the opposite, in fact. It just shows how difficult and destructive it is to put pressure on children to perform and it says a lot about your non-wankerdom and resilience that you've successfully protected your children from that.

I'm one of the people who did get into Oxbridge and yes it was bloody awful there and plenty of highly intelligent people don't get a place, plenty of real wankers do.

(Edwards, on the other hand, couldn't even manage to stick to being a wanker without abusing children in the process. 😢)

HoppityBun · 17/09/2024 09:22

It’s the pressure from other people’s expectations and being surrounded by people who achieved this, bearing in mind that it happens at the beginning of your adult life. I can very much identify with that

OpenSecret · 17/09/2024 09:23

Lemonadeand · 17/09/2024 07:37

That’s ridiculous. I went to Durham. We were almost all Oxbridge rejects. Weirdly have still managed to live a fulfilling life and not commit any crimes.

I’m seeing a YA crime novel set in a Durham college where Oxbridge rejection has caused everyone to turn to a life of embittered crime aged 18. Called The Rejects. They blindfold their victims with the scarves of the colleges they applied to.

HoppityBun · 17/09/2024 09:26

Howdull · 17/09/2024 09:00

just wonder if he had to write out a timeline of times he felt negative emotions and the barrister went through and made some stories/excuses.

I strongly suspect that this did actually happen. Think you've hit the nail on the head there

We know exactly that this wasn’t it. The information was the result of two reports, so presumably at least two interviews, with a consultant psychiatrist / neuropsychiatrist. Plus it wasn’t just not going to Oxford but going to Cardiff instead

Biggirlnow · 17/09/2024 09:28

OpenSecret · 17/09/2024 09:23

I’m seeing a YA crime novel set in a Durham college where Oxbridge rejection has caused everyone to turn to a life of embittered crime aged 18. Called The Rejects. They blindfold their victims with the scarves of the colleges they applied to.

I would totally read that

WTAFisthisnonsense · 17/09/2024 09:32

I think any mitigation for his crimes is obscene. No thought for the children whose lives have been ruined, just more excuses for his sickening behaviour.

OpenSecret · 17/09/2024 09:34

Biggirlnow · 17/09/2024 09:28

I would totally read that

Alas, it would need to be written by someone who knows Durham better than I do. (I actually got an Oxford place and therefore didn’t start holding up banks…)

ThanksHunPenneys · 17/09/2024 09:38

Pitiful excuses all of them!
He should be ashamed, but I doubt it.

Avertmyeyes · 17/09/2024 09:44

mids2019 · 17/09/2024 06:58

So part of Huws apparent mental health struggles was apparently feel seated low self esteem partly by failure to get into Oxford when perhaps he was expected to and he was surrounded by Oxbridge educated peers at the BBC.

Moving away from. The odious crime do you think spoke can have such a deep seated reaction to Oxbridge rejection and does it least??

Trying to divert attention from his disgusting self to start a debate about “privilege” and he’s just a person who has felt enormous pain, etc

Everything he says will be scripted by a PR person. If this is their best strategy Huw is doomed

FairyMaclary · 17/09/2024 09:45

So he is saying that his grieving wife caused him to betray his true values and commit crimes? As did his rejection from Oxford?

His lawyer must have used the excuse because our criminal justice system falls for such nonsense! Pathetic.

He is in effect saying he is unable to control his actions unless other people act a certain way.

Surely If he is that incapable of controlling his actions that he abuses others because of peoples decisions and grief reactions then he should be in prison?

Do judges and jury’s believe such nonsense?

mondaytosunday · 17/09/2024 09:50

I'm sure some people never get over it (and the same with other aspirational universities- I'm 62 and still think 'what if' if I had been offered my top choice uni). But it doesn't lead to this behaviour. It can be a contributing factor to low self esteem.
He may have well been surrounded by those that had been to Oxbridge, but he was very successful in his career so why the comparison? Like, say you went to big standard uni and had the same position as someone who went to Oxford. Would you be envious or think 'gosh I'm as successful as you without the fancy degree'.

NothingMatter · 17/09/2024 09:55

DD got an offer last year than missed the grades.
I'm absolutely determined it should not be a defining moment.
She's had a mixed year at her uni - just as she would at Cambridge. Met lovely people and arseholes, sat in amazing spaces and shitholes, all typical uni stuff. Written less essays, had too much time, than learned to fill it with work and hobbies.
If she commits hideous crimes it is as likely to be because of phrenology (the bumps on your skull) as her UCAS form.

Mirabai · 17/09/2024 09:55

Oxbridge rejection leads to sex offending, ok.

Cyclebabble · 17/09/2024 10:01

its bollocks from a self serving paedo making excuses for his appalling behaviour.

MrsWhattery · 17/09/2024 10:11

He and his lawyer should be ashamed to even come up with ANY kind of excuse or mitigation for what he did. How can he show his face while claiming any let-downs in life or not-great relationship with a parent blah blah have anything to do with it. That’s billions of people have experienced things like that. Even many people who were themselves abused as kids manage to not be abusers. It’s a choice made to satisfy sexual urges with no shits given for the victims or the impacts on his family or anyone else. Just for sexual thrills, which, you know what Huw, you can actually manage without.

RedRidingGood · 17/09/2024 10:16

Anyone know how and why he managed to escape a prison sentence? I can't wrap my head around that.

ErrolTheDragon · 17/09/2024 10:31

RedRidingGood · 17/09/2024 10:16

Anyone know how and why he managed to escape a prison sentence? I can't wrap my head around that.

Sentencing guidelines. The guy who supplied him only had a suspended prison sentence too. First offence CSA material offences rarely/never get a custodial sentence.

LuluBlakey1 · 17/09/2024 10:34

He has a huge ego. You can tell from how he presents himself, from what his excuses have been, from how he stares at cameras, the way he speaks, the text messages, his reaction to the BBC asking fir the salary back. He has no shame and is angry he has been caught- it's all not his fault.

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