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Regrets about Oxbridge rejectiin...bought up by New Edwards

103 replies

mids2019 · 17/09/2024 06:58

So part of Huws apparent mental health struggles was apparently feel seated low self esteem partly by failure to get into Oxford when perhaps he was expected to and he was surrounded by Oxbridge educated peers at the BBC.

Moving away from. The odious crime do you think spoke can have such a deep seated reaction to Oxbridge rejection and does it least??

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anxietyaardvark · 17/09/2024 07:00

He was judging himself with his own elitist views.

mids2019 · 17/09/2024 07:05

True. I wonder though how many people do experience this (obviously with other consequences)?

Does Oxbridge rejection leave a scar if you come from an elitist family or environment (perhaps school)?

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SerenityNowInsanityLater · 17/09/2024 07:10

No.

Talk about scraping the barrel of excuses.

He’s just a stereotypical, entitled, white male abuser. “Never take responsibility. It’s everyone else’s fault.
Consequences exist for the fools and idiots.”
That’s the mentality of prolapsed lost causes like Huw.

SerenityNowInsanityLater · 17/09/2024 07:12

mids2019 · 17/09/2024 07:05

True. I wonder though how many people do experience this (obviously with other consequences)?

Does Oxbridge rejection leave a scar if you come from an elitist family or environment (perhaps school)?

I’m sure it does. But the disappointment generally doesn’t land as, “I’ll become a predatory abuser.” He’s really reaching.

NotbloodyGivingupYet · 17/09/2024 07:13

I feel so so sorry for him I could cry.
Bastard. And his bastard lawyer.
As to the Oxbridge thing, I can imagine it could be a niggle if you were the sort of twat who thought it made a difference, or if your parents treated you as if you were lesser.
All I ever saw from the BBC was them fawning all over him right up until it all exploded in their face.
Bastards.

Sethera · 17/09/2024 07:17

I could understand someone being deeply upset at the time and perhaps even for a few years afterwards. But this happened to him more than 40 years ago, and he went on to get a First at the university he went to and then to have an extremely successful career; so it's scraping the barrel, as pp said, to use this as an excuse for his behaviour now.

People have all sorts of genuinely traumatic experiences in their lives, but they don't all go on to view child sexual abuse material.

EmmaGrundyForPM · 17/09/2024 07:18

He also blamed his wife's lack of intimacy whilst her mother was dying.

He is taking no responsibility whatsoever.

Doublevodka · 17/09/2024 07:24

The fact he has used this as some sort of excuse makes him an even bigger cunt than I thought.

runningpram · 17/09/2024 07:25

i knew someone expected get into Oxbridge who then narrowly missed their grades and lost their
place. And yes - It clearly rankled. They were incredibly entitled and unpleasant and put themselves under crazy amounts of pressure to ‘prove themselves’ as a result. However while they were a tw**t at least between the ages of 18 and 22 - they did not use rejection as an excuse to commit crimes. And once they’d had some success in the real-world they largely got over it.

SerenityNowInsanityLater · 17/09/2024 07:26

EmmaGrundyForPM · 17/09/2024 07:18

He also blamed his wife's lack of intimacy whilst her mother was dying.

He is taking no responsibility whatsoever.

Ah yes!! That old chestnut.
“So I turned to predatory behaviour and a need for dick (especially of the young kind), as you do when one’s wife is grieving for her mother.”

Just vile. What a vile man. An Oxford education would have fixed ALL that, Huw. 🙄

SerenityNowInsanityLater · 17/09/2024 07:29

Honestly it’s like he’s embarked on some failed archeological dig inthe land of poor excuses. He’d have been better off just shutting up. But men like him never do. “It’s the world’s fault and it owes me!” Total abuser male superiority complex on steroids.

FrothyCothy · 17/09/2024 07:29

Leaving Huw Edwards aside -

Not getting in was my first experience of academic failure and it did trash my mental health. I ended up hating my university experience. 25 years later I’m still slightly salty about it (but it didn’t make me a criminal).

Floralspecscase · 17/09/2024 07:35

mids2019 · 17/09/2024 07:05

True. I wonder though how many people do experience this (obviously with other consequences)?

Does Oxbridge rejection leave a scar if you come from an elitist family or environment (perhaps school)?

It does. Personally, I wasn't rejected from Oxbridge, but the intense pressure to get a place and the sense, as a child, that you're a failure otherwise — your only worth being in how well you do — certainly can cause immense mental health problems. And I didn't come from a privileged background (other than being white).

The thing is, the vast majority of Oxbridge rejects don't abuse children then use their (non/)academic past as an excuse. Conversely, there are Oxbridge graduates who do abuse children, so the point is nonsensical.

Lemonadeand · 17/09/2024 07:37

That’s ridiculous. I went to Durham. We were almost all Oxbridge rejects. Weirdly have still managed to live a fulfilling life and not commit any crimes.

Frostycottagegarden · 17/09/2024 07:37

My ex was the same. Apparently it was yet more evidence that the world didn't appreciate his unique intelligence and therefore he was simply a victim who needed to he rescued by me.

Ditto, he didn't get the degree he deserved, was never promoted at work, and couldn't find a wife deserving of him, and so he had to make do with me until he found someone better.

Honestly, they actually thunk that they are special people, but it's the sale pattern, caused by a total break in their self confidence and ability to feel empathy at an early age.

Lemonadeand · 17/09/2024 07:38

EmmaGrundyForPM · 17/09/2024 07:18

He also blamed his wife's lack of intimacy whilst her mother was dying.

He is taking no responsibility whatsoever.

That’s awful.

user47 · 17/09/2024 07:38

I was rejected and guess what? I didn't become a nonce.

Floralspecscase · 17/09/2024 07:38

Lemonadeand · 17/09/2024 07:37

That’s ridiculous. I went to Durham. We were almost all Oxbridge rejects. Weirdly have still managed to live a fulfilling life and not commit any crimes.

He didn't make itto Durham either, though. Probably would have fitted in at the bbc if he'd gone there!

Downthemedow · 17/09/2024 07:42

Wow. Just…wow. ‘I didn’t get into Oxford so I had to look at naked children on my phone.’

We’ve all had disappointments in life - very few people do what he has done. One of my siblings didn’t get into grammar school when the rest of us did. It’s left its mark for sure, but they’ve managed not to commit any crimes as a result.

What the fuck is wrong with men?

GrumpyMacGrump · 17/09/2024 07:54

Poor poor rich entitled man 😭😭😭
I suppose Oxbridge only take the finest minds and he didn't make the cut. Which lowly uni did he darken with his predatory presence then? 😂

UnimaginableWindBird · 17/09/2024 08:01

Rationally, I think I'm happier and did better in my non-Oxbridge university than I would done if I hadn't fucked up my A-levels. But if I'm honest, emotionally I still feel sick and shaky when I think about it, and I'm 50 now with plenty of life experience behind me. I was under so much pressure from other people and still feel deep shame for letting them down. I've met enough miserable Oxbridge graduates to know that I'm actually lucky to have escaped from that pressure that made me mentally ill at 17 rather than 21, and I would never say this in real life, but it was genuinely one of the defining bad moments of my life, and I have genuinely felt like a failure ever since. I realize that this makes me sound like a complete wanker with no resilience (which is probably true) and it's certainly no excuse for terrible behaviour, but it is an emotional burden that I don't feel I've been able to lay down properly. My children are in their GCSE and A-levels years now, and I'm really pleased that they value themselves outside of achievements that other people can brag about, and are generally not fragile people-pleasing perfectionists like I was.

Cherryana · 17/09/2024 08:02

I just wonder if he had to write out a timeline of times he felt negative emotions and the barrister went through and made some stories/excuses.

Nothing excuses the degrading dehumanizing of children and he should have received a sentence that reflected his actions and not his emotions.

Startingagainandagain · 17/09/2024 08:36

It really is unbelievable that he literally got away with it by blaming depression, his upbringing and some nonsense about his Oxbridge rejection...

Absolute madness.

Just another entitled white man & vile pervert with money and connections who is only sorry he got caught and managed to sell a sob story to avoid jail.

Beamur · 17/09/2024 08:39

There are no excuses that can justify his actions.
But anecdotally a close friend of mine also didn't get into Cambridge - had a horrible time at the uni she went to and if anything seems to be increasingly bitter about it as she gets older.

crumpet · 17/09/2024 08:44

I was a narrow miss. Had a great time at the university I did go to, and made some lifelong friends. it did rankle for a while, and looking back I would have benefitted from a better feel for what the interviews were going to be like/ what the interviewers were wanting to find out about their applicants. But it was all new to me and my family, and all in all I am happy that I was a contender. Certainly not ruined my life/driven me to crime!