Medicine 2025 entry - part 2

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Onto UCAT and personal statements now - good luck everyone!

Hi does anyone know what Sunderland cutoff was last year or previous years?

also a possibly strange question..... DD UCAT was not great and she's nervous about getting an interview.

She's asked me can you apply for medicine foundation year courses if your A levels etc are already at the required grades (expected A*, A,A plus epq A attained and AS maths A attained) and does that provide you auto entry to medicine or do you need to do the UCAT again. Her SJT was Band 2 her grade though 2580

@SoTiredNeedHoliday you need to take conte risk flags for foundation courses. Or gave taken conscience A levels. Sorry

Contextual !!

I thought so. thanks

For Keele what are their UCAT decile rankings they are not inline with the UCAT deciles on the the UCAT website.

The image I imagine below for Keele is for 2023, and 5th is 2280 and below where UCAT decile on their website has 5th decile at 2510 in 2023.

Would it be (3600-2280) =1320, divide by 5=264

Quintile 5 2280 and below
Quintile 4 2544 and below (2280+264)
Quintile 3 2808 to 5245 (2544+264
etc

Fantastic news - well done to your DD especially after all she’s been through.
Sheffield is a good idea - if she gets an offer and firms it then the A in her EPQ should bring the offer down to AAB - I don’t think it being a resit should make a difference but maybe best check?
My DD has just started at Sheffield this week - she really wished she’d done an EPQ!

Re the Keele scoring, that's raising the same issue about deciles that was going on somewhere else (can't remember if it was this thread).

The top quintile is the top two deciles. If you look on the UCAT pages at the interim boundaries you see the table below.

So if these were the final boundaries the quintile thresholds would be 2,850 (between top and 2nd quintile), 2,660 (between 2nd and 3rd quintiles), 2,500 (between 3rd and fourth quintiles) and 2,320 (between 4th and bottom quintiles.

The confusion arises because (a) Keele are counting quintiles from top to bottom rather than bottom to top and (b) UCAT show 9 decile boundaries rather than 10 decile ranges. For the interim data on the web site, these would be the ranges:

1st decile: 1,200-2,180
2nd decile: 2,190-2,320
3rd decile: 2,330-2,420
4th decile: 2,430-2,500
5th decile: 2,510-2,580
6th decile: 2,590-2,660
7th decile: 2,670-2,740
8th decile: 2,750-2,850
9th decile: 2,860-2,990
10th decile: 3,000-3,600

Hard to believe 10% of test-takers are scoring 3,000+, but it must be so.

Oh, and Keele says (somewhere, or they did once upon a time) that they set the minimum requirement as 2,280 because that was where the boundary between the 2nd and 3rd deciles was for a couple of years and they wanted to tell people in advance what the minimum score was rather than make them wait until the boundaries were published. That might have been in the R&R-form days, though, when the other boundaries weren't important for them.

@ItsYourMoneyRalf QMUL say "Applicants will then be selected for interview based on a weighted score compared to other applicants
who apply in the same year, and may be comprised of UCAT score, UCAS tariff of entry qualifications predicted or achieved,"
So, once the baseline GCSE threshold is passed (which your DS does), they don't matter and shortlisting is done on a combo of ucas points (unusually) for A levels and UCAT score. They don't say how they combine these two numbers - there is chat around that they just add them. Note this means that when one sees past UCAT cut-off stats, that is for 3Astar candidates, presumably, as they max out the UCAS tariff bit of the sum, however it is done.

Yes. She can. Just need to meet the widening participation criteria

my dd interviewed for 6 year medicine with foundation year at 4 universities. 4 offers

She sailed through y0 and has just started y1. You need to pass y0, the foundation year and then start y1 with the rest of A100 new recruits. No need to resit ucat

her ucat and sjt were near enough identical to your dd.

@ItsYourMoneyRalf QMUL say "Applicants will then be selected for interview based on a weighted score compared to other applicants
who apply in the same year, and may be comprised of UCAT score, UCAS tariff of entry qualifications predicted or achieved,"
So, once the baseline GCSE threshold is passed (which your DS does), they don't matter and shortlisting is done on a combo of ucas points (unusually) for A levels and UCAT score. They don't say how they combine these two numbers - there is chat around that they just add them. Note this means that when one sees past UCAT cut-off stats, that is for 3Astar candidates, presumably, as they max out the UCAS tariff bit of the sum, however it is done. At least, that is how I read it all

Yes they still use it as their cutoff

sorry - not sure why it posted twice

@NoNotHimTheOtherOne And I agree - 10% seems quite a lot for 3000+!

Thank- you, very helpful

Quick question regarding Plymouth medicine course (A100)

does anyone know ( guess will do)
ucat cutoff
2023 entry -2680
2924 entry- 2210

This is general cut off

any reason for this sudden drop.

Where did that figure come from ? It's Plymouths MINIMUM UCAT but not the actual cut off for interview - unless it shot down after the last batch !

thanks
from their website ( select ucat option)

https://www.plymouth.ac.uk/courses/undergraduate/bmbs-bachelor-of-medicine-bachelor-of-surgery/entry-requirements

Wow it went low. They must have had lots not take up offers and go back out to try again.

I would urge caution with this as it also says the same figure for ukwpmed which is one of their contextual schemes. It might be a mistake as the ukwpmed thresholds and non contextuals are different every other academic year.

It maybe that its true for non contextual but a bit suspicious of this. Or it could be just the way they reported it last year.

2024 Entry Cut-off: 2210 International: 2600 UKWPMED: 2210

Srnd them an email and perhaps clarify this @PSHE The admissions team were very open and friendly when we dealt with them.

We’re looking at Plymouth now for 4th choice and their website says

• UCAT and GCSE requirements remain the same for all applicants

so my understanding is the widening access just gives you a lower A level offer. I could be wrong though. But this would make sense re both scores being the same? Maybe it’s a change from earlier years? I’ll try contacting admissions to find out unless someone else has..

also Dd sat ucatsen and the Plymouth website says you need to submit evidence of being entitled to extra time eg letter from school. I thought the med schools didn’t get told if ucat sen has been sat so it is judged the same as the normal ucat. Anyone know?

also has anyone heard back with a yes or no from Notts re elite sports? We’ve had some emails back and forth but no decision.

thank you!

also Dd sat ucatsen and the Plymouth website says you need to submit evidence of being entitled to extra time eg letter from school. I thought the med schools didn’t get told if ucat sen has been sat so it is judged the same as the normal ucat. Anyone know?

I saw that and was rather surprised by it. This is what UCAT say:

@islaoo @KielderWater I also read that on Plymouths website and thought it seemed odd.

Do you think they have written it up incorrectly, meaning that people need to disclose is they want extra time when doing the degree?