Oxbridge 2024 Entry Part 5

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Good Luck everyone whatever the outcome!

At least at the offer stage last year, Westminster received 38 from Oxford and 17 from Cambridge.

QE boys has unusual high C offer this year, compared to a much lower number on O. Anecdotally a lot of C offers are from the winter intercollege pool.

@Uni2024 I imagine the figures in their website are right?

But maybe you have more inside scoop :-)

DD is perfectly ok with the fact she didn't go to Westminister and despite being shortlisted as Queen's scholar 'made it' at her SE London grammar. I do however think the interviews she went through (online during lockdown) helped her inadervently for her Cambridge interview. The letter she got offering her a place gave her the confidence that maybe, just maybe, she did have a chance at the top levels. It is tough being at a top achieving grammar where all do well to realise you might actually be capable. No one 'ever turns down Westminster' she heard a few times, but she did. It didn't turn out so bad and she is thriving at Cambridge.

Just got round to reading the english admissions report (on merton's site) which this year goes into great detail about how college reallocation is carried out. I hadn’t understood the mechanism before

It's like a different word reading some of the above regarding numbers of students going to Oxbridge. Back in the normal world my kids went to a pretty good non-selective state school with way above average academic results. They maybe get in 2-3 per year out of 10-15 applications. More in a good year. In DD2's year she was the only one that got in. Also lots of them positively don't want to apply to Oxbridge as they still think it is stuffy, posh, etc....

Does anyone know when Cambridge update their application statistics page to 2024 data? Thanks

@Leemum17 I think it is published around the beginning of September each year once they have data for acceptances not just offers. I have been having a nosy around and Selwyn has published that they had 860 applications this year https://www.sel.cam.ac.uk/news/offers-2024 which is more than they have had in any of the last few years, so it seems that their decision to interview in person didn't put people off!

Pembroke have published their offer stats by subject. They had 990 applications this year compared to 1043 last year and they interviewed in person this year.

That's interesting, my gut feel was that in person would increase the numbers but fascinated to find out...

Cremebrulee45 interesting, could you share a link? Thanks

Sorry! https://www.pem.cam.ac.uk/study-here/undergraduate/current-applicants

Looks like last year Pembroke had more applicants than usual so perhaps that put some people off? 990 is more than they had in 2020,21 and 22. It is very interesting.

DD’s college of Newnham was ‘harder’ to get into for 2023 entry than nearly all colleges for subjects like English (know pooling is meant to even this out so all just stats) and applications were up nearly 20% from 554 to 661 so quite a leap for a small to mid sized college. I wonder if some look at colleges and try and game so there is a spike one year or it gets more smoothed out than that?

https://www.undergraduate.study.cam.ac.uk/apply/statistics

Newnham had online applications for the past few years so no recent change.,

Changes to STEM application tests outlined here: https://www.varsity.co.uk/news/26964

i.e. University Clinical Aptitude Test (UCAT) instead of the BioMedical Admissions Test (BMAT) and

Joint Engineering and Science Admissions Test (ESAT) rather than the Natural Sciences Admissions Assessment (NSAA) and the Engineering Admissions Assessment (ENGAA) - there will also be a cost where there wasn't previously.

Cost is £75, so quite a significant difference.

I'm waiting on the changes to the Oxford TSA which are apparently going to be announced in the new admission cycle in the spring. Any idea when this cycle starts??

That is interesting, thank you for posting that @Cremebrulee45

Perhaps something to show to our disappointed DCs, if their parents are still here. For example, 167 applied to the college for Engineering and only 14 received offers, including candidates who may have been pooled there.

Thanks for sharing the stats...fascinating. My DS applied for engineering in 2022..2539 applications for 329 places 🤯 so he did even better than I thought to be offered a place.

Interestingly, his school (superselective grammar) had their best Oxbridge offers total this year (21), and were more successful with humanities than STEM for the first time ever..which is anecdata, but reflects my DS' experience of having a lot of foreign students, particularly from Asia, in his engineering cohort.

Just found this as well https://www.cai.cam.ac.uk/news/offers-made-2024-undergraduate-intake-caius which is interesting, especially 71 offers in the winter pool, in previous years this number has been around 30.

Is that 71 figure the number of students that applied to Caius that were offered other colleges in the winter pool? Is that the same with the Pembroke figures - so 161 of their applicants got offers elsewhere? It's not clear in the table header when they say 'offers made by Pembroke (including from the Winter Pool)' whether they mean students who originally applied to Pembroke or ones they took from the pool?

I don’t think Pembroke say how many people who applied to them were offered places at other colleges from the pool. I read it as they gave out 161 offers including people that they took from the pool.

Yes I think you're right and looking back at other years they hardly take any from the pool. I think they usually put quite a few into the pool (that figure is on the the main stats page) but I don't think they have shared that yet.

Morning all,

Oxford has just released all of the stats for the offer data which may be of interest to those with or without offers!