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Applying to Oxbridge for 2023 intake

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riverpebbles · 28/02/2022 21:13

Not sure if there is already a thread on this? My son is hoping to apply to Cambridge for Computer Science for October 2023 start.

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Malbecfan · 21/05/2022 13:26

@Aurea there are organisations that support Scottish students and encourage them to apply to Oxbridge. My DD has been involved and mentored a couple of people. At least one got an interview. I'm sorry I can't remember what subject it was, but the organisation is called The Clydeside Project. Link here: www.clydesideproject.org

Aurea · 22/05/2022 16:32

Thank you Malbecfan. I will take a look.....

TheLawStudentOne · 26/05/2022 18:42

I’ve spotted @70smillie your dc is thinking law at Oxford - but also for anyone interested, Oxford Women in Law Student Society is running an online session next Wednesday. It’s completely free for current year 12/13 students if anyone is interested!

While it is part of access/outreach initiatives, students from any school are welcome.

docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfGnyr2Wa2JHKOU3sGl0Cynm1VaajhdSQ7pVZcTgl39SY6Xqw/viewform

Thepaintedgarden · 28/05/2022 10:10

Has anyone else started visiting other universities?
We've managed whirlwind visits to 3 on the list so far and it has been really useful for helping DS see other options (he is applying to C but has a sibling there already so knows much more about that uni than any others). He ruled one out, another very definitely went close to the top of the list and the other was a happy maybe.
We've now made plans for proper open days for a couple of others in the autumn term.

buckleten · 28/05/2022 19:38

We have open days planned for about five other unis over the next few weeks, including Exeter, Cardiff and Bristol, going to be a busy few weekends!

bettbburg · 31/05/2022 15:02

We have open days booked but all are on weekdays. Only one university is doing one on a Saturday 🙄

CurlyhairedAssassin · 31/05/2022 15:31

I have had an interesting year learning all about the Cambridge application process. My DS applied for Engineering and was successful in getting an offer. We had little to do with it apart from learning about the process, the drive came from him and him alone. No, they don't care about non-subject based extracurriculars. What they want to see in the application is a very clear passion for the subject. i mean, like, to a nerdy degree. Which luckily my DS had. He'd entered lots of competitions, had a special interest in a particular aspect of engineering, just did loads of stuff in his spare time as a hobby, out of the geeky love of it. He is ultra capable at the subjects required at A-level (predicted 4A*s) and this had been commented on by his teachers all the way through school.

The entrance test is hugely important too. DS did particularly well at that and he thinks it definitely helped. As for the interview part, he is a quiet sort but fairly confident in his own abilities and enjoys the challenge of physics and maths problems so I guess that came across at his interview where they launched straight into those rather than asking about anything else at all really. From the interview they want to see if you are teachable according to the Cambridge style. Whether you can work new things out for yourself based on your own prior knowledge, and with just a little prompting from them. That is the Cambridge way. They aren't looking to spoon feed you, but there WILL be a huge amount of new stuff to learn as a Cambridge student, at a fast pace, so they need to know ynou can pick new concepts up quickly and apply them. Ultimately they want to be as sure as they can be that if you were a student there that you could handle the demands and pace of the course. This is why the whole application process is so rigorous.

Having said all this,all of that applied to my nephew. He applied for Computer Science at Cambridge and didn't get an offer. We were all gutted for him. He was the perfect Cambridge student - the feedback he got basically said this but also said that unfortunately they simply don't have places for ALL the perfect Cambridge students and that the number of applicants this year, more than any other year, for CS meant that they were just unable to offer him a place. They more or less said that had it been any other year that he would be holding an offer. Computer science is ultra competitive at the top unis.

So certainly, your expectations have to be managed. CS is one of THE most popular Cambridge courses. Not getting an offer does NOT mean that you aren't good enough for Cambridge. My nephew has an offer from Imperial which is just as prestigious in my view and in the eyes of employers. Plus probably easier access to IT jobs in London. But he DOES have to pass the STEP2 exam along with his A-levels which is an added pressure, and of course accommodation in London is more problematic.

BTW, my son didn't get straight 9s in GCSE either. Mostly 9s, a few 8s and maybe 2 7s?

Also, my son had an offer from both Imperial AND Cambridge. Even though Imperial offered him a president's scholarship, Cambridge was always going to be his first choice if he had offers from both and the grades were not hugely different anyway so he didn't even put Imperial as his insurance choice.

komoreb1 · 31/05/2022 16:31

Also have a DD with an unconditional offer at C for this year and it's been a steep learning curve.

If applying from a very selective independent, my advice would be to choose a college carefully. Go for one that has a high ratio (80% ish) of applicants and intake from the state sector (Kings springs to mind, or perhaps Homerton) as opposed to one where state school applications are lower (eg St Johns where is more like. Colleges that already meet or exceed the university- wide WP targets (about 75% intake from the maintained sector I think) are more likely to be able to offer to their strong applicants from the independent sector. I know they say college choice shouldn't matter, but colleges do have varying acceptance rates for different sectors and the issue of meeting the WP quotas does come into it, to a greater or lesser extent. Chances of being selected from the pool if applying from an independent are lower than ever, so college choice matters now more than ever.

If applying from the state sector, don't be put off by the "public school" reputations of colleges such as St John's or Trinity as these colleges are possibly still playing catch-up a little in terms of WP targets. So possibly more likely to take a state school applicant, all things being equal.

I only found about all this after DD applied. There is a website called Unifrog that shows success rates across colleges for different sectors. I think only students can log in though (not sure)?

Also, look at the interactive graphs on the Cambridge admissions pages. Look for a college with a good and reasonably consistent acceptance rate for the subject, as far as possible. Also, you may notice that some subjects at certain colleges will routinely take from the winter pool every year, while others virtually never do. Probably better to go for a college that doesn't seem to routinely take from the pool, but tends to offer to its direct applicants.

Try to find out about the interview process for the subject across the colleges because this can vary significantly. Eg, if your DC really wants to talk about their PS, look for a college that has a 'general interview' in the mix (because this is where the PS and wider interests get discussed), rather than 2 academic interviews.

If they are given reading a few days before an interview, they shouldn't only read that, but also read one or two of the texts referenced in it. The interviews are often designed to simulate a tutorial and this is what they would be expected to do for a tutorial.

Other interviews may give reading just before the interview or something during it, in which case, they just need to think on their feet. But look at the interview format, because different DOS have different ideas about the best way to select. Also look at the interests of the DoS (DD didn't do this but struck lucky with her interviewer).

Anyway, the above may well make no difference whatsoever, but just wanted to mention it because these are a few "If only I'd realised ...." snippets I've gleaned from talking with who were successful and those who were not this year.

komoreb1 · 31/05/2022 16:32

Sorry, above should read - "Eg StJohn's where it's still more like 60% state school intake.

OnePlusOneEquals · 07/06/2022 13:31

That’s interesting @komoreb1 thanks for that. My DS doesn’t have unifrog unfortunately or I would have made good use of it.
He’s just been given his UCAS predicted grades this morning though 4 x A stars!!! He’s worked very hard and I’m proud of him, he can now get started on his PAT preparation!

Aurea · 07/06/2022 16:49

Hi all

Hope your DCs are all well and looking forward to the summer break.

Looking towards the SAQ for Cambridge, I understand it asks for class numbers for each subject, I assume to put achievement into context.

As we are in Scotland (state school) with highers/advanced highers studied in one year, I would be interested to hear how many students are typically in each A level class.

My DS's class numbers for advanced highers are:
Maths 22
Mechanics 6
Physics 9
Music 8
Chemistry 11.

There are five 50 min timetabled periods a week for each subject, apart from mechanics where there are four.

Thepaintedgarden · 07/06/2022 17:40

DS has 5 hours a week for each A level subject plus an extra 30 minutes a week for his language A level.
In his classes there are 10, 18 and 16.

CaptionChaos · 10/06/2022 14:16

State school - 30, 30 and 3!

Posie23 · 10/06/2022 14:35

Hi All, For those who have registered for one of the Oxford open days this month, have you seen anything about booking for college/subject specific talks? Just want to make sure DD hasn’t missed something. There seems to be lots of session-booking needed for some other uni open days ….

FlyingSquid · 10/06/2022 15:41

If it's any help, Posie23, DD didn't even register beforehand went she went round a couple of years ago, IIRC. She only decided to attend the night before, caught a 5 a.m. train and just ... sort of wombled round departments talking to people and eating cake, as far as I can tell.

It's probably better to be slightly more organised than that though.

Posie23 · 10/06/2022 19:38

Haha that sounds like my DD’s style - she’s partial to cake!!

bettbburg · 11/06/2022 07:05

Posie23 · 10/06/2022 14:35

Hi All, For those who have registered for one of the Oxford open days this month, have you seen anything about booking for college/subject specific talks? Just want to make sure DD hasn’t missed something. There seems to be lots of session-booking needed for some other uni open days ….

I'm told no as the whole open day is subject specific.

HewasH2O · 11/06/2022 19:13

Mum of a second year here who regularly helps at O open days. There will be some subject specific talks open to all in departments, but these are quite general. The really useful ones though are subject specific talks within the colleges held at different points in the day. My DD went along to those in her future college, met her 3 interviewers & had the chance to ask them questions. These tended to be for groups of 8 -10 and the tutors focus on the applicants. Look for the college subject talks in colleges you are interested in applying to.

OnePlusOneEquals · 11/06/2022 19:36

That’s interesting @HewasH2O it’ll take a bit of investigating through each college and what they’re offering on the open days, but good to add that slant to his list of which college to visit and when.

OnePlusOneEquals · 12/06/2022 08:18

Also have seen that Oxford are doing their interviews online again this year, but Cambridge are yet to decide. Wonder when that decision will be made. DS would prefer an in person interview.

Posie23 · 12/06/2022 09:10

Thanks all for the open day insights! DD would also much prefer an in-person interview (if she gets that far!)

juicy0 · 13/06/2022 14:44

@komoreb1 hi, thank you for your post on college choice. I've tried to locate the admissions graphs you refer to as I'm keen to see the data for Classics but I can't find them. Please can you point me in the right direction ? TIA

juicy0 · 13/06/2022 14:44

@komoreb1 hi, thank you for your post on college choice. I've tried to locate the admissions graphs you refer to as I'm keen to see the data for Classics but I can't find them. Please can you point me in the right direction ? TIA

juicy0 · 13/06/2022 14:44

@komoreb1 hi, thank you for your post on college choice. I've tried to locate the admissions graphs you refer to as I'm keen to see the data for Classics but I can't find them. Please can you point me in the right direction ? TIA

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