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IB results out tomorrow

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truelove · 05/07/2020 12:18

DS expecting IB results tomorrow afternoon. He needs 7,6,6 at HL for Physics at Warwick (same for his insurance, Bristol) but has since decided he wants to try for Durham through clearing (because his GF is going there assuming she gets the results she needs Confused. He knows it’s a long shot and that he will probably have to wait for A level results.

Anyone else’s DC awaiting IB results tomorrow?

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truelove · 07/07/2020 18:53

DS’s school have published results today - 281 students all passed, average score of 37.6, 56.9% scored over 38, 30.6% scored over 40, 4 scored 45, 9 scored 44. I think as a previous poster mentioned, a large cohort probably helps plus steadily increasing results year on year. They only offer IB in the 6th form.

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blametheparents · 07/07/2020 19:33

@truelove - Think we are talking about the same school!

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truelove · 07/07/2020 20:05

@blametheparents Just realised that too when I re-read your post!

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Oneteen · 07/07/2020 20:09

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blametheparents · 07/07/2020 20:14

@truelove - Your DS got great results. Well done. It’s a fab school!
Good luck at university!

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truelove · 07/07/2020 20:39

@blametheparents thank you! It really is a fantastic school and I’m so sad his 7 years are over and have ended this way. Where did your DS go to university?

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Monkey2001 · 07/07/2020 22:40

@Oneteen it is unlikely to be a deliberate strategy to disadvantage the small centres, but it is very difficult to statistically moderate a small sample. The strategy might have been to allow all schools to improve by, say, 1%. For large centres you would expect that results would be more consistent, particularly at the high attaining schools, so they would be fine.

If a school has a small cohort and last year was weak, a statistical approach may give poor results. Same problems occurs when a school has inconsistent results - they will be inaccurate, might be over, might be under.

Oneteen · 08/07/2020 10:56

No with more thought... I can't for one minute imagine they would look at this strange situation we are in with a financial hat on.. Id obviously had too many glasses of vino when I posted Blush

sandybayley · 08/07/2020 12:15

Totally forgivable @Oneteen - I can imagine a glass (or two) of wine was needed. How is your DD today?

Oneteen · 08/07/2020 13:08

My Dd is Ok. Shes not one of the IB girls but you can imagine not publishing the IB results is making everyone feel (I think it's the right decision though). There are small cohorts in most of the A level subjects too (18 subjects with less than 10 girls) .. The IB girls were 6 of the brightest girls in the year...It maybe that they have scored OK but not as well as expected.. (hopefully they have their places at Uni.. one was holding Med School offer)

I can't help but forsee a double glitch here... Last year the IB results dipped (school possibly to blame because numbers taking IB were dropping and I think they probably persuaded a few girls to take IB that were more suited to A levels).. A level results were however much better than previous year.. 2018 the opposite really good IB results poor A level results... So the combined performance of the cohorts each year maybe of similar ability/are consistent but they may get penalised from two different awarding bodies for inconsistent results.. But its just the nature of a small sixth form offering both a wide range of A levels and the IB. Results up one year in IB down in A level and Vise versa...

This is all so unsettling for our 16 and 18 year olds and I really feel for the Yr10s/12s too.

Iris2212 · 08/07/2020 13:43

How small a cohort would you class as a "small cohort"?

sandybayley · 08/07/2020 14:46

The Ofqual guidance doesn't cover IB.

Oneteen · 08/07/2020 14:48

The small cohort for IB is more than 10 but less than 19....

The IB cohort for Dds school was 6...10 of the A level subjects have 4 or less girls... Huge variations in subjects numbers one year 22 next year 12... Its a school where statistical moderation probably won't work..

dennishsherwood · 08/07/2020 15:04

Sandybayley - you are of course absolutely right, as indeed was your point about Will Hazell's article. I apologise on both counts.

Iris2212 · 08/07/2020 15:09

My son's subjects are Maths, Biology, and Geography. I think Maths has always had a larger subject size (50+) so I'm not worried about that one. Biology has been increasing recently and I believe had 30+ students this year which should be fine. I'm more concerned about geography which is normally less consistent. There is 20+ students this year, but I think quite a bit less in previous years. Geography also tends to get a much greater ability range of students so is likely to be more inconsistent.

(His sixth form has around 160-170 students this year).

blametheparents · 08/07/2020 17:28

@truelove - DS is at Nottingham.

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truelove · 09/07/2020 09:44

Had to be Nottingham or Warwick! Smile Top two destinations for former students over the last few years. Great uni. DD has visited friends there a few times too.

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Quincesorbet · 09/07/2020 10:18

Have your children with IB results had contact from their universities yet? My son has heard nothing from either Durham or his back up which is Birmingham. His offer was 38 with 666 at HL for Durham. He has got 40 points with 765 at HL . He's heard a rumour that Durham won't contact him until the a levels are out. He's going to email them today (when he gets up!) but it's frustrating.

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truelove · 09/07/2020 11:30

@Quincesorbet DS heard from his firm, Warwick, the day after results came out. However, 2 years ago when DD got her IB results, it was 2-3 days before her insurance went Unconditional (she was 1 point under her offer for her firm, Durham), had applied for 3 remarks but then heard 8 days after results day that Durham had accepted her too without remarks (she ended up going up 2 points after remarks but they weren’t needed anyway). I would give Durham a call.

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truelove · 09/07/2020 11:33

Just to add, DS is hoping to get into Durham through adjustment, has emailed the head of department and been told he has to wait for A level results (which is the adjustment process anyway we’ve since learned). Good luck to your DS!

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SirTobyBelch · 09/07/2020 12:50

His offer was 38 with 666 at HL for Durham. He has got 40 points with 765 at HL .

As he hasn't met the conditions of his offer, they might well ask him to wait until they have A-level results. It wouldn't be fair to confirm his place now and then find they're oversubscribed and have to reject people with AAA offers who've got A*AB, for example: they'd want to look at both of those groups at the same time.

MidLifeCrisis007 · 09/07/2020 12:58

Back in the 80s I missed my Durham offer by 1 point at HL but still got accepted (for Natural Sciences). Fingers crossed for your DS....

nightsoutasap · 09/07/2020 13:44

My dd has heard from her insurance uni (Nottingham), that they are considering her. Not heard from her first choice.
On another note, has anyone seen the component grades yet? My dd hasnt, but a forum she is on has examples of situations like this: Predicted 7 - Moderated coursework 7 - Actual 4????

Butella · 09/07/2020 14:03

Hello (new to Mumsnet so might be doing this wrong!). DD got IB results- on UCAS form predicted 41 - sat exam for Cambridge uni and did well but failed on interview. School adjusted their recommendations to the IBO to 39 points. (After no offer from Cambridge she stopped working as hard) She got 31 points so not enough for any of her choices nor any Russel Group uni. She is devastated. Was hoping for Edinburgh- 34 point offer which should have been easily achieved. Don't know what to do.