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The CDE of University Life (2019/20 cohort) - assignments, flat-hunting, Halloween and the end of their first term fast approaching

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NewModelArmyMayhem18 · 30/10/2019 15:56

Previous thread - Obvs the end of term is looming sooner for some than for others? I guess the Oxbridge posse will finish by the end of November or just into December?

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NewModelArmyMayhem18 · 29/11/2019 17:54

I was going to say that my memory of doing a degree is that the quality of what is expected/required goes up as the course progresses, surely? You would not expect to go from A Levels to suddenly being at finals degree level in a few months?

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Ginfordinner · 29/11/2019 18:27

That's worrying. The work levels are already high for DD. Although I'm pretty sure that the CFS isn't helping.

NewModelArmyMayhem18 · 29/11/2019 18:33

@Ginfordinner, sorry I can't remember what your DD is studying? It might depend on the subject too? Possible that degree subjects that most undergraduates are starting from scratch (thinking something like Archeology) might initially be pitched at a lower starting point standard than those (such as Maths) that require A Level(s) in the subject(s).

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Ginfordinner · 29/11/2019 18:45

Biomedical sciences

Piggywaspushed · 29/11/2019 19:21

DS just reported he got a 2:2 for his first assessment. I am sure other posters on some HE threads would sneer somewhat but he found it hard and is quite pleased. One thing the new style A Levels definitely don't equip students with is research and cataloguing or referencing skills. Gove wanted 100 per cent exam which I find retrograde and short sighted.

Benjispruce · 29/11/2019 19:32

Having had a great catch up with DD, she assured me she is love everything about uni so far. She loves the college system as everything is at her fingertips:gym, bar, common room, canteen, sports pitches, laundry etc so life is very easy.
She’s not worried about her course as 2nd years have said it gets much harder in year 2. I guess it’s anthropology lite to begin with, to get everyone up to speed. She’s really happy with her friendship group and house share so I am relieved. Think she’s just a bit spent.
It seems coming home has been worth it as she’s lined up 2 Christmas job interviews while home. They wouldn’t do telephone interviews so she had to be here in person, which seems a bit of a barrier for students considering they’re Christmas temp jobs.

Benjispruce · 29/11/2019 19:32

That’s great @Piggywaspushed

ZandathePanda · 29/11/2019 19:47

Piggy Dd found the EPQ was good for the referencing and the A Level humanities coursework good for research grounding. However she’s so drilled into writing with AO1 etc objectives that it was the essay structure she struggled to get her head round. I am sure even now she could give you the %AO weightings of each A Level question in her subjects she did!

Piggywaspushed · 29/11/2019 19:54

Not all schools offer EPQ, including DSs. I am actually somewhat surprised that some unis lower offers for the, to be honest, given that they are pretty much the thing at affluent schools!

That said, I do think EPQ is great. That level of research used to exist in many A Levels!

Piggywaspushed · 29/11/2019 19:55

I saw that earlier zanda...he isn't my favourite politician!

ZandathePanda · 29/11/2019 20:17

Yes Dd got an offer one grade lower for her A at EPQ which was at a comp in I suppose a more affluent than average area. Very handy to have a lower offer though not needed in the end. We know someone at another school that got a lot of ‘guidance’.
We think alike on Mr Punch!

Ginfordinner · 29/11/2019 21:28

Some of the A level subjects were better than others for research and referencing.

DD took geography at A level, and 20% of the marks were from a non exam assessment which was a mini dissertation involving research and had to include references (her NEA ended up being about 6,000 words). The EPQ wasn't available at her school, but I get the impression from posts on MN that it became much more popular the year after DD took her A levels (she took hers in 2018).

She used some referencing software when she wrote an essay recently, and she had the common sense to add her references as she went along rather than at the end.

HoldMyLobster · 29/11/2019 22:52

The most interesting thing DD has told us since she got home is that she's studying with Steve Carrell's daughter - my 14yo boy's head nearly fell off with excitement :-)

simbobs · 29/11/2019 23:23

I can see my DS's emails, though I don't actually open and read them, and I can see that he has something from Student Support, probably asking why he missed a week. Of course, he never reads his emails at all, so somehow I am going to have to surreptitiously draw attention to this...

Ginfordinner · 29/11/2019 23:35

I don't have access to DD's university emails.

I had to google Steve Carrell. I'm still none the wiser.

MarchingFrogs · 30/11/2019 00:17

I get that SC is 'huge', so to speak, but haven't ever really 'got' him, personally (was going to say, but quite enjoyed Blades of Glory, then remembered that that was Will Ferrell...).

ZandathePanda · 30/11/2019 00:28

Gru!

HoldMyLobster · 30/11/2019 03:06

I wasn't a Steve Carrell fan till I watched Beautiful Boy recently. The rest of my family all love The Office though.

simbobs · 30/11/2019 07:14

Not his uni email, his general one. He used my laptop occasionally and left himself signed in. He knows I can see them, or at least he did. Maybe they don't show as being opened if he reads them on the phone. There are thousands of unopened ones. He never deletes them.

Trewser · 30/11/2019 07:45

I love Steve Carrell. The 40 year old virgin is one of the funniest films I've ever seen.

Melvinsmum · 30/11/2019 08:50

Lurker on here for a while, and have a DS is final year of a science degree at a RG uni, having had a YII last year.

On the subject of first year being relatively easy for some - whilst DS never had that feeling, he did experience a big jump between 1st and 2nd year.

I remember him commenting in the early stages of Yr 2 that the work had ramped up exponentially. I think, as others have said, Yr 1 is very much to bring everyone up to a similar position from a variety of starting points.

This jump is borne out by problems experienced by DC of some friends/relatives, who did 2nd yr last year.

One is re taking 2nd year, one had to do summer exams in resit period as he had a breakdown at normal exam time having struggled most of the year, a 3rd failed a summer exam, passed resit but now predicted a much lower degree than expected. All 3 are doing science or engineering degrees at top unis, including Durham.

As Newmodel said, no one would be expected to go from A levels to final degree level within months, so it is expected that work will get harder as the years progress.

Having said that, DS has gone back into final year after a year out, and most of his friends who graduated in the summer told him the 2/3 yr jump was not too bad. His main problem this year is that he is missing having his course friends around to bounce ideas off. Something to think about if considering a YII, not many get placements so the ones that do, go back when others have graduated.

Benjispruce · 30/11/2019 09:14

I guess it’s the same at the start of A levels where those that got an A* at GCSE in that subject will find it easier than those that got a C or B in the subject.

Jano69 · 30/11/2019 09:45

@Melvinsmum Thanks for sharing your
DS's experience, helpful for us to know what to expect.

DS is finding the work in his first term at Durham at a similar level to Y13. Bashing out 2,000 word essays is within his comfort zone but I'll reserve judgement until they're marked. He got A star AA in his A'Levels which he was disappointed with.

I think the first term is definitely focussed on finding your feet and learning how to live independently. I fully expect the workload to ramp up considerably next year.

I'm looking forward to hearing news/photos of his college winterball this weekend.

NewModelArmyMayhem18 · 30/11/2019 09:47

Not necessarily. You're assuming that people who get A* in their GCSEs are always brighter than those who don't do as well. Some of it is to do with work ethic too and teaching.

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