Are they many of you that have persuaded your dc to go to local universities and stay living at home

[EleanorReally]

i am sure i heard this was a thing now, due to expense.

DS1 is doing computer science and it's also more hands on, I think he has 4 or 5 topics per term and has a lecture, a tutorial and a 2 hour lab session for each. The labs aren't always compulsory and he often finishes his stuff in about 15 minutes and then hangs about pretending for a while before heading for his train about an hour in as he thinks leaving earlier looks rude....

Hoping he is a little more challenged this year.

DS2 has 4 subjects with a lecture and tutorial for each, some of those are over an hour and he has the occasional other stuff to attend but it's much more self directed. Not necessarily a good thing for him as part of his dyspraxia is that he struggles to organise himself and properly prioritise.

Languages are also higher contact hours. DS has 15 hours a week (five for each module) with five 9.00 language tutorials a week.... a long commute would have been really difficult.

Dd is at college, not Uni, (yet), she's sorted all the finances herself, I just gave her details of my money which is solely from disability benefits.
She had to manage as I can't afford to give her anything, the money I got for her rightfully stopped when she moved out.
She gets the maximum, obviously, plus there'll possibly be extras available to her as she was once a LAC.
She's also very fortunate to have a trust fund that will clear most of her debt, so long as she is vaguely sensible.
Oh, she moved in with her BF and his brother in an established flat share so v cheap compared to halls.

@EvenPhilip 9 hours or less contact time a week is pretty typical for non STEM subjects.

For students doing subjects that have lower contact hours, do they have to do disproportionately more self study compared to students doing science and engineering subjects?

DD is doing a subject with loads of contact hours, and she is expected to match those hours with self study. Surely someone doing a subject with 8 hours a week would be expected to do more than 8 hours on their own. Wouldn't they?

I would expect so Gin I'll ask DS2 when I see him but I expect he has a lot more to produce in terms of personal research and essays (politics and IR) compared to DS1 who produces code and completes team projects which are mainly completed during lab times

It was in the dark ages but my course at oxford had 3 tutorials a forntight and was mostly the only compulsory attendance. Some colleges suggested you didnt sttend too many lectures as it would get in the way of your studies...(humanity)

One of mine chose to, no persuasion needed. It's up to them but the less loans /more money is attractive if the deal at home is good, it depends on how liberal you are at home to a certain extent and their personality and lifestyle. If you are strict parents, don't like them coming home late bringing their latest boy/girl friend home etc it isn't going to work probably

Mine have now left uni...it would have never entered my mind to try and influence their choice of uni and encourage them to live at home and commute. I may have wished it but kept my thoughts to myself as it was their choice to make.

MaybeDoctor is right. As has been recently highlighted in the press, so many students get 2.1s and firsts now, about 80%, that they cannot be seen as a differentiator in the job market. So top employers are looking for those with degrees from Russell Group universities. They know they can trust these unis to turn out top class students. If you live near one and it has EXACTLY the right course for your kid, then they go there, simples. But if they don't they really need to look at what the degree will get them in the long term, which will pay off in the long term. And if this means going away to uni then they should do it. Otherwise it is saving pennies today but losing pounds tomorrow. My experience as a sixth form tutor/form teacher taught me this lesson over a long period of time and is all in my book for sixth formers looking to get into top unis. If you want to pm me.

“Surely someone doing a subject with 8 hours a week would be expected to do more than 8 hours on their own. Wouldn't they?”

Yes, I had 6 hours contact time for whole chunks of semesters but often had at least 3 primary texts to read (one for each module) sometimes more plus secondary texts that were recomended and chapters/papers about the texts as well.

My eldest went about three hours away, but she was one of only two students in her school year not to stay fairly local. She really did her research to make it viable though.

I think that there's a perception nowadays that unless your parents are loaded and can support you, then there's no point taking on all the debt. It's a shame though, because with careful budgeting and applying for all the obscure grants and bursaries you can find, it's more realistic for students from very low-income families to study away from home than many people think.

It doesn't suit everyone (especially where there are MH issues or other challenging family circumstances), but it's just awful that accessing education has become so financially daunting that the student experience is being curtailed for many. Living independently is a big part of building confidence and gaining the life skills that a qualification alone doesn't bring.

@NumberblockNo1

My Dd gets £2,300 per term which covers her accommodation and leaves some money left over to live on, (about £400) but her accommodation is expensive comparatively even though it's one of the cheapest her uni!
That's not the full loan it's the middle range one.
We will need to top her up but not by £800 a month.

BitofFun is absolutely correct, I showed all my students how there was a lot more to financing their degrees than loans and bursaries. I also taught them how to budget to be able to live a life, have fun but still not come out bankrupt. It really just needs a mature approach, which can be taught. (All in my book of course.)

"ArtieFufkinPolymerRecords Sun 29-Sep-19 15:16:26
University's not universities."

"university's" means "of the university" as in "the university's Vice-Chancellor"
"universities" is quite simply the plural of "university"

"ArtieFufkinPolymerRecords Sun 29-Sep-19 15:16:26
University's not universities."

But having just realised you were talking about your own post, I now realise you meant "sites of the universities" Which would in fact be "universities' " but this is pedantry up with which many of us would not put, to paraphrase Chuchill!

@StanleySteamer
I am perfectly aware of the difference, which is why the post you quoted came immediately after my previous post, correcting it. Obviously in your hurry to patronise you missed that.

Having gone back over a week to read my posts, I realise I should have corrected myself to universities'.

Mine went to university 10km away

They lived at home for 1st year and then mined into shared accommodation,they pay half.

It was hard to have them at home tbh
We’re all happier with them living out.

Trewser Mon 30-Sep-19 20:36:11
It's normal in Europe to live near home when going to uni.

Sorry, but this is absolute rubbish. My ex-wife, French, lived in the uni residences during the week and went home at weekends. She was in Lille. You could tell how many did this by the number of university restaurants there were around the city.
The country is so much more rural than the UK that even secondary schools "lycées" have boarding facilities "internats" and the school I taught in "Lycée Technique Baggio" had 3000 students, was right in the centre of about the third largest city in France and STILL had an "internat". Many are specialist. In the local town of Mazamet, there is a "Lycée d'hotelerie" and students come for all over and board there. I could give you many more examples.

@ArtieFufkinPolymerRecords so correcting yourself, eventually, is OK but having someone else do it is patronising?
You poor little sausage, I am so sorry!

I think it’s a shame people limit their futures by not choosing the best degree and best university option. I would never pressurise a child to live at home - the exact opposite, in fact.
Going away to university is about so much more than the course. It’s time to explore, to grow up, to rebalance the relationship with parents, to learn life skills and to understand who you want to be.

I think London is slightly different but even then, living at home is limiting.
I think if it’s home or no university because of parents concerns around lifestyle, culture etc then home is better than no university.

If home means a less prestigious university or compromises on the course, then definitely move away.

@NumberblockNo1, are you sure your DC is living in the cheapest place she can? You do not mention it absolutely clearly, but halls of residence is usually the most expensive way of living in a uni.
A house or flat share is usually cheaper and gets cheaper the further you are away from the uni.
Now she is at uni, this advice is a bit late, but as OPs have said, there are all sorts of grants and bursaries out there, some of which your DC can get simply by attending all or nearly all lectures, which of course you would be hoping they all would do anyway! Sandwich courses are a good way to go, as is joing the services, but of course there are conditions attached.
Here is some stuff many of you will find useful, from the chapter on financing your degree in my book.
If you fancy trying for a bursary or a scholarship, have a look at this website:
www.thecompleteuniversityguide.co.uk/university-tuition-fees/other-financial-support/university-bursaries-and-scholarships/
This should give you some idea of what is available.
This website:
www.thecompleteuniversityguide.co.uk/media/4109415/bursaries_scholarships_grid_england_2017_jan_18.pdf
very clearly lists the type of bursaries available and what the criteria are for acceptance.
For sponsorship apply.army.mod.uk/how-to-join/entryoptions/officer-bursary
www.applytouni.com/applying/sponsored-degrees/
For how to survive financially, www.savethestudent.org/extra-guides/freshers/13-skills-to-help-you-survive-university.html
www.independent.co.uk/money/spend-save/a-students-guide-to-financial-survival-you-dont-have-to-drown-in-debt-at-university-9686930.html
and university.which.co.uk/advice/student-finance/student-finance-budgeting-things-to-remember

@CherryPavlova, you are absolutely right, especially nowadays when 50% of young people get a degree.

@StanleySteamer - I think you've got the wrong person to reply to! My child isnt at uni yet, were thinkjng of staying at home for cost reasons unfortunately.