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Backpack for University

266 replies

Shimy · 09/09/2019 12:27

Just occurred to me that DS will need one for uni. What’s everyone else’s child using or what would you recommend? Im particularly interested in:

Ability to store laptop of about 17inch plus folder
Very good back support! So good shoulder straps and padding.

I’ve looked on amazon and there’s a myriad of back packs it’s difficult to know what to choose from.

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WaxOnFeckOff · 13/09/2019 13:00

I think people are reading too much into the buying of a backpack. Why don't you start a thread about overbearing and controlling parents (which I am sure exist) rather than extrapolating all sorts and projecting over a simple request for some recommendations for an item?

People request suggestions for stuff all the time, it doesn't mean that the OP will be calling her DS daily or questioning a plagiarised essay in 3 years.

My DSs have been responsible for their own homework since primary school, that hasn't always been successful but its their homework not mine. Doesn't mean I'm not interested in how they are doing or that I can't buy them items.

Trewser · 13/09/2019 13:05

There's a world of difference between that and you having a completely unnecessary and boundary-crossing discussion with your adult daughter about whether or not she is going to pack condoms

She's 19. She's leaving home for the first time. She's not 30 🤔

Rubicon80 · 13/09/2019 13:12

She's 19. Not a child. Why are you discussing with her whether or not she's going to use condoms? Why would it be inappropriate if she was 30, but not at 19?

Ontopofthesunset · 13/09/2019 13:17

18 is only just an adult. It's only strictly an adult in a legal sense. I wasn't an adult at 18, not in the proper sense of the word - I was a girl who was gradually becoming an adult. There's a world of difference between discussing contraception with an 18 year old who may not yet be sexually active and a 30 year old discussing it with their parents. And what a horrible family I would live in if I never did anything for my children that they could do for themselves, or if my husband never did anything for me that I could do myself - goodbye to cups of tea in bed, or the odd lift somewhere because it's pouring with rain, or shared laundry and washing up. You do realise that just because you occasionally help your 18 year old out that it doesn't mean that you go to job interviews with them?

WaxOnFeckOff · 13/09/2019 13:18

I'd also add that most Scottish dc heading to uni will either be under 18 or just 18. Most will also have been in school up until the summer as we don't do 6th form colleges. Many of these young adults will be away from home for the first time, it's natural for parents to be involved in the transition.

Rubicon80 · 13/09/2019 13:19

@WaxOnFeckOff

From the OP:
Just occurred to me that DS will need one for uni. What’s everyone else’s child using or what would you recommend? Im particularly interested in:

This is not the way that someone talks about buying an adult (friend/family) a gift.

It reads very differently to:

"I'd like to buy my son a backpack as a gift when he starts university. Does anyone have any suggestions? What do you use yourselves?"

This is what lots of people have picked up on.

It's not just 'a simple request', it's the way it's worded and all of the assumptions that are embedded in that opening post. That's what people are picking up on. For example:

  • 'Just occurred to me that he will need' - why? Why has it just occurred to HER, and not to her son? It's not a 'want', it's a 'need' - why is his mum thinking about the essential items, and not the person who's actually going?
  • 'What's everyone else's child using?' - just bizarre. Firstly, they're not children. Secondly, the assumption that it's all the parents, rather than the adults themselves, who will be choosing this essential piece of equipment.

It reads like someone whose child is starting primary/secondary school. It's not how anyone should be talking about their adult son, assuming no special needs.

  • 'I'm particularly interested in' - as if it's HER who will be using it. No sense at all that she is buying it for HIM.

The reason I've bothered to break it down like this (apart from the fact that I'm procrastinating and not doing my work) is that you keep saying I'm 'projecting' (me and the many, many others who've made the same point, apparently - all of us projecting away), and making out like the idea of buying a backpack, on its own, is a bizarre or wrong thing to do.

The OP's opening post is a dead giveaway that she is doing all of the thinking, planning and 'adulting' that her son should be doing for himself

fluffiphlox · 13/09/2019 13:23

I hope all his pants have got name tags sewn in. 😀

WaxOnFeckOff · 13/09/2019 13:25

I don't read it like that at all. She may have been wracking her brain trying to think of a gift and it just occurred that he might need a new back pack, yes he's not a child (although he could be 16 or 17 if in Scotland) and she probably isn't expecting to find loads of students on a parenting forum so is therefore asking other parents what their students are using. Reading too much into it.

Shimy · 13/09/2019 13:27

@fluff oh dear! That’s one thing I forgot to doGrin. I’ll just finish feeding him his mushy eats and i’ll get to it. 😂😂

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WaxOnFeckOff · 13/09/2019 13:30

Names not sewn in his pants, but he has Dyspraxia and struggles with losing stuff/keeping track of his things so he has put his initials or bright tape on his kitchen stuff so he knows what is his. Not because he thinks everyone will steal it, just so he knows he's not taking other people's things.

Trewser · 13/09/2019 13:30

Rubicon do you actually have kids of university age?

Trewser · 13/09/2019 13:34

Honestly, you must be fairly hard of thinking if you can't read an innocuous question about a backpack without assuming that means the OP is going to be on the phone to uni every day! If you don't have uni aged kids, or don't run a company designing backpacks, then why bother even opening this thread unless you want to slam home your warnings about over involved parents?

Rubicon80 · 13/09/2019 13:35

@Trewser

As I've said multiple times in this thread, no, my kids are a few years younger than that.

As I've also said, I've taught at several universities, so have encountered hundreds of young people of this age (a lot of whom have parents who can't or won't let them become independent), and I've also seen the effects of this kind of smothering within my own family and my in-laws.

Why?

Are you trying to discredit my opinion or tell me I'm not allowed to respond to the thread, because you don't want to answer any of the actual points I've made?

Rubicon80 · 13/09/2019 13:39

@Trewser If you don't have uni aged kids, or don't run a company designing backpacks, then why bother even opening this thread unless you want to slam home your warnings about over involved parents?

Cross-posted - glad to see I was right and you were indeed seeking to discredit my opinion!

Not that I need to justify myself to you, but I saw the thread title and clicked on it because I'm thinking about buying (myself) a new backpack for work.

Like a lot of other posters who also clicked on this thread, I was half amused and half horrified to see that it was in fact posted by a parent.

roisinagusniamh · 13/09/2019 13:51

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Ontopofthesunset · 13/09/2019 13:56

Why is it controlling to know what backpack your teenager who has just left school is using? Presumably you live with them and you would have noticed even if you hadn't bought it for them. I know what backpack my husband uses as I live with him even though I didn't buy it. In fact, if any member of my family came home with a new backpack, I would comment on it.

Trewser · 13/09/2019 14:00

Nuts, I'm afraid.

Oh and OP, dd is taking an old Adidas sports rucksack to tide her over and will either keep it, buy herself a new one of her own choosing or ask for a new one, probably for Christmas.

roisinagusniamh · 13/09/2019 14:05

...I'm particuliar interested in
Does the student get a say in this at OP?

Ontopofthesunset · 13/09/2019 14:05

This insistence that they are not children, but adults, is the oddest thing. They are nascent adults. They are young people becoming adults. They don't just become an adult the moment they turn 18. They have adult legal status, but most teenagers going to university for the first time have never lived independently, have been in school until a couple of months ago and ,if they have earned money that has been to supplement their lifestyle, not to pay rent and bills.

And, in any case, in English we use the word 'children' broadly to mean offspring. We don't have a casual word that means 'adult progeny'. Which is why you might still ask someone in their 70s how many children they have.

WaxOnFeckOff · 13/09/2019 15:04

Clearly you are only a "half decent parent" if you've turfed them out as soon as they started high school and have no idea what they are doing or what they like or really, any interest in their lives or future.

WildCherryBlossom · 13/09/2019 15:07

OP my DC are not university age yet. However one of them has a long journey to school,carrying lots of files, assorted other clobber and a laptop. After a long deliberation we splashed out £££ on the 17" laptop Kanken. It is waterproof, had padded shoulders, useful compartments (including a water bottle holder on the outside. I very much hope that it is still in use for university.

(Incidentally my mother bought me a backpack for my birthday this year. I am in my mid-40s. She thought it would be useful for me when cycling. I appreciated the thought and omitted to mention that DH had given me very smart paneers for my bike. I passed it on to one of my DCs who is very happy with it. )

Ontopofthesunset · 13/09/2019 15:24

And the backpack that will go to university with DS2 is an Eastpak - they have lots of colours and sizes and the first one he had used to fit a laptop and a clarinet in on music days.

ZandathePanda · 13/09/2019 16:18

Rubicon are you really sure an argument on bag advice is worth this many words??

Chill

Or if you need to vent I would start a random Oxbridge thread. Now they’re the real sharp-end of the higher ed forum. Grin

Rubicon80 · 13/09/2019 16:31

@ZandathePanda No, I gave up ages ago as there were so many straw men that the thread was starting to look like a scarecrow convention.

I've said all I have to say on it, now wasting my time half on a thread about parking and half on writing the actual report I'm meant to be doing.

MrKlaw · 13/09/2019 16:37

@ZandathePanda Do oxbridge allow backpacks or should we look into leather satchels?