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Applying for Uni 2019 Part 6: exams, leaving school/college (the end of an era), a long summer holiday and Results Day on the horizon

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NewModelArmyMayhem18 · 20/05/2019 16:23

Just when exam season gets fully underway our previous thread has almost filled up. Everyone welcome Wink.

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FairNotFair · 12/06/2019 14:22

Just found this thread. DS just home from Edexcel Maths. Very despondent, and I feel really bad for him. He said the first Pure paper wasn't too bad, but this one was off the charts. Hoping the grade boundaries will be lowered!!

AWanderingMinstrel · 12/06/2019 14:39

DS back from Edexcel Maths. He echoes what everyone else is saying. He does FM so it was good but said that if you just do normal A level maths it would have been awful. He said that you needed to be able to apply the kind of FM thinking to the problems and that how could you do that if you dont do FM??? Just hoping Stats and Mechanics are better on Friday and that grade boundaries come down.

justasking111 · 12/06/2019 16:10

It is good to know the A level maths students still manage a wry sense of humour at times like this.

twitter.com/hashtag/edexcelmaths?f=live

minesawine · 12/06/2019 16:49

Oh shit. I haven't had a chance to speak to my DS yet and I feel sick. After the disaster with maths paper 1, he spent hours revising for paper 2 and he was so upbeat when I dropped him off this morning. I just want to rush home and give him a big hug, but I am stuck at work for a few more hours. I pray that I get home and he says it wasn't so bad.

Witchend · 12/06/2019 17:13

Dd1 says that she's added her marks up and it's the worst paper mark she's ever got. She's quite despondent after being quite upbeat for paper 1. She does like statistics better than pure, so hoping Friday's exam goes well.

NewModelArmyMayhem18 · 12/06/2019 19:43

Sorry that so many DC have found the second Edexcel maths paper so hard. Sounds hideous and grossly unfair. If it's any consolation OCR history paper today seems to have thrown up a googly or two.

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errorofjudgement · 12/06/2019 19:59

NewModelArmy re OCR History, DD sat this exam this afternoon her paper was on Germany Democracies and Dictatorships. What did your DC study?

IfOnly waving back! Hoping your DD is coping ok. I think it’s much trickier when they’re away particularly if they need a hug after a bad exam, or in DDs case, a meltdown during revision!

minesawine · 12/06/2019 21:11

Zanda DS and all his mates have signed the petition. Fingers crossed something will happen. Although I'm not convinced 😪

5LeafClover · 12/06/2019 21:38

I just found this re maths. I don't really understand a lot of the specification and saw tooth stuff but it seems that the first comment ( made before the exams started) totally predicts how hard it's going to be and calls out edexcel by name. ofqual.blog.gov.uk/2019/02/08/new-a-level-maths-in-2019/

Witchend · 12/06/2019 21:50

There's no way they'd use predicted grades.
Just think how you'd feel if you'd sat great exams and you had a low predicted grade.
But also, some schools inflate predicted grades so how would that be fair?

Fair enough if the petition was to look at the difficulty of the exams etc, but it's pointless to ask that.

VanCleefArpels · 12/06/2019 22:32

Well that’s it for DD. All done and dusted. The loooooong summer awaits. Feels like the end of an era as she’s my youngest.

cardy1969 · 12/06/2019 23:01

The maths paper sound ridiculous, some of dd's friends have said the same.

Dd has sociology today and said it was ok, it wasn't as good as the other papers. However there have been tears tonight ahead of law tomorrow. She says she just can't remember any of it, and paper 1 didn't go well. Then paper 3 psychology on Friday. Three days in a row are really trying.

bizzey · 12/06/2019 23:55

Those comments posted on the links by zanda are quite heartbreaking .
Especially the comments about if you worked hard for 2 years or not..it would not make a difference.

Quite upset tonight, for ds.
In my head it is like
A level maths is learning "+" and "-" sums only.
FM is learning "×"and "÷" sums and a few of above.
EXAM was "×" "÷" "%" " and alot more !!

Ds said there was a symbol included that he had never seen before !

Piggywaspushed · 13/06/2019 06:58

This bit is the most interesting bit in clover's post :

It’s obvious that these reforms have been driven by political ideology rather than looking at ways the existing system - which was functioning well - could have been improved further. Subject content for the new specification has been hastily put together by the intelligentsia in a “change for changes sake approach”, without any thought for how this might work in the classroom.

This resonates with teachers of many A Level subjects.

That said , DH (maths teacher in a selective school) does always say it's a knock on effect from maths GCSE being 'too easy' and A Level, therefore, being not challenging enough for years. I take this with a pinch of salt.

I didn't know about all those differences between maths A Level of old and other A Levels until I read the post and am confused as to why maths got away with being so different (and, therefore, elite) for years. Never have understood the whole maths/FM distinction either as a layperson , in terms of why some schools say you have to do both Maths and FM and others say just FM.

NewModelArmyMayhem18 · 13/06/2019 06:59

errorofjudgement I gather your DD's paper sidestepped the Nazi regime completely? DS did the American Civil War one. I get the feeling that DS's school has chosen quite obscure ones - Normans, warfare (can't remember the dates) were his other two.

5LeafClover that's an interesting link. Thanks for including it. Here's an article about the sawtooth effect (you learn something new every day!)

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marine04 · 13/06/2019 07:11

Anyone do the AQA chemistry paper on Tuesday? My son found it horrendous and lots of comments on-line seem to be in agreement. In addition AQA seem to be throwing in a lot of stuff which is not on the syllabus. Fingers crossed for a better biology paper today.

NewModelArmyMayhem18 · 13/06/2019 07:50

DS has gone off to school 'demob' happy, even though he has two exams ahead of him today. I think by this point some of them are almost beyond the point of caring...Hoping he's saving the best until last though.

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fiftiesmum · 13/06/2019 07:57

DD was very happy about the chemistry but not so about the maths. Maths is a bit of an odd subject - most people doing maths A level will have the knack and will not have to spend many hours at it (but this exam sound pretty awful) I feel that in most subjects most students could scrape a pass with some teaching and study but maths and languages seem to need that innate ability on top and without that many students could not even scrape a pass even with the best teaching and hours of study.

NewModelArmyMayhem18 · 13/06/2019 08:00

I was surprised to discover that more people take maths A Level than any other subject rather them than me

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fiftiesmum · 13/06/2019 08:32

It does seem to be one of those crossover subjects essential for medics, scientists, economists, psychologists, architects and engineers and useful for others. And for many less time consuming (no reading round the subject or essay writing)

Piggywaspushed · 13/06/2019 08:54

To be honest, I don't think MFL is about innate ability ( you arne's born knowing a language after all). Low performance in MFL is more down to results being skewed by native speakers sitting the same A Level, a lack of specialised teachers , and poor provision, and the elitism of specialists who want to say their subject is only for those with an innate ability thereby killing off uptake in their own subjectsadly.

Having taught a long time, to me the innate ability subjects are actually maths, music, and English Lit. Yes, many people can scrape by in a writing subject like lit and it is unusual to fail outright : but it remains one of the hardest subjects to get an A in. To an extent, you either write beautifully , or you don't. The annoying flip side of this is you tend to get students (boys, often) who rock up having done bugger all work, possibly having deigned to read the books, and getting As , because they are just brilliant minds.

SoonerthanIthought · 13/06/2019 09:58

Yes piggy there's an interesting thread at the moment in further education (he and fe candidates for a mn merger?!) on the effect of native speakers on a level boundaries.

I agree about innate ability in maths - would imagine that transfers across to physics to some extent as well, and possibly chemistry? If you find maths difficult either of those would be a challenge I think.

ZandathePanda · 13/06/2019 10:03

Piggy that’s interesting about Eng Lit. Dd was criticising the Eng Lit A* exemplar, written almost certainly by a boy, because although it was beautifully written, some his ‘facts’ were actually wrong eg. she couldn’t believe examiners hadn’t picked up that he’d mentioned the wrong wave of feminism Grin.

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