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Education in Europe - why not travel abroad.

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HuffingMum · 03/05/2018 16:58

University education (taught in English) in Holland costs about 2000 Euros a year. Here in Luxembourg, some of us Brits prefer to send our English speaking teens to Dutch or German universities.

See the websites www.studyinholland.nl/education-system/tuition-fees-and-cost-of-living
and www.topuniversities.com/where-to-study/europe/germany/study-germany-english
We pay about 400 euros a month for guaranteed accommodation.

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OpheliaStorm · 03/05/2018 17:10

Brexit means low fees will no longer apply.

OpheliaStorm · 03/05/2018 17:11

Unless you meet the EEA etc. Criteria

TinklyLittleLaugh · 03/05/2018 20:45

I have one in Dublin, lower fees but higher living costs; it will be less expensive overall. However student finance loans are not available if you study abroad, so that will make it impossible for many people.

okdok · 03/05/2018 20:49

How much do students not from the EU pay?

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HuffingMum · 09/05/2018 08:03

Had not realised that UK student loans are not awarded for studying abroad, thanks for that info.

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BubblesBuddy · 09/05/2018 09:43

Why study abroad if you can get into a world class university here? Obviously other universities are world class too, but there are negatives about being away from home and fees. Also, if students can still do a year abroad from a uk university post Brexit, they get the best of both worlds.

okdok · 09/05/2018 19:31

UK unis are pretty toxic at the moment. And very expensive. I think it would do the UK good if some of its brightest young people studied abroad. The UK will soon be a very insular place.

user2222018 · 09/05/2018 20:06

UK unis are pretty toxic at the moment. And very expensive.

What's the basis for the first statement? (UK universities have some of the most diverse populations in the world.)

And as for expense: you don't get a comparable deal from European universities, so one can't directly relate the fees.

okdok · 09/05/2018 20:23

Just look at all the safe space, no platforming, transgender stuff going on.

titchy · 09/05/2018 20:24

UK unis are pretty toxic at the moment.

Wtf? Hmm

okdok · 09/05/2018 20:24

Outside of Oxbridge, arts students in particular don't get much for their money here.

okdok · 09/05/2018 20:28

I will encourage the one of my dcs who is very keen on languages to study abroad. Would be great if she could be enjoying uni on the continent rather than stuck here dealing with Brexit crap.

titchy · 09/05/2018 20:49

How the fuck do students 'deal with brexit' crap? They're hardly going backwards and forwards to Brussels as part of the negotiating team. Hmm

okdok · 09/05/2018 21:13

I find this country a very depressing place to be right now. I expect it to get much worse. Would prefer dd to spend a few years in a stable liberal democracy.

Needmoresleep · 09/05/2018 21:26

In the news today:
www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/business-44039666

Dont know about Oxbridge but our experience is that students, often from otger parts of Europe, can get great value in London.

okdok · 09/05/2018 22:12

39% of EU students now less interested in studying in London.
The same downward trend in the private school sector.

titchy · 09/05/2018 22:18

39% of EU students now less interested in studying in London.

Well obviously, given the uncertainty over their fee status. For what it's worth the UK has far more world class universities than any other European country.

Needmoresleep · 09/05/2018 22:21

Where do your figures come from?

One course, but DS is just completing a Masters in London. The majority were non-UK Europeans. They would have applied after the Brexit vote, but seemed happy to have gained places. There are a number of other subjects where courses offered in London are world-class.

But surely up to your DC to decide what suits them best

Tansie1 · 09/05/2018 22:33

Will be interesting to see how 'world class' our venerable institutions are regarded as being, post Brexit; with its clear isolationist message, The abandonment by international academics, the downgrading of its degrees....

However, tho I am a remainer, I recognise that Britain needs the slap Brexit will give it, bolstered by it being' the will of the people', it will make a lot of people grow up.... the clever and/or wealthy already have their outs. My family are neither particularly either, but we do hold Antipodean passports. I expect them to make their futures abroad.

pamplemoussed · 09/05/2018 22:39

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-politics-uk-leaves-the-eu-36719923
This is the sort of Brexit crap students will have to deal with..

okdok · 09/05/2018 22:46

My figures came from the London article someone just linked to.

scaryteacher · 10/05/2018 00:14

UK unis are pretty toxic at the moment I'm not hearing this from ds who is doing his fourth year at university; he seems perfectly happy.

okdok · 10/05/2018 00:18

Is he involved in student politics in any shape or form?

titchy · 10/05/2018 07:49

Is he involved in student politics in any shape or form?

Most students aren't particularly. Of those that are very few are actively promoting the sort of shit you've mentioned.

Is your child likely to be involved in student politics? Do they want to study abroad?

Pample - it's a concern, but won't really impact on undergraduate teaching. So no brexit crap to deal with for students. Plenty for managers...

pamplemoussed · 10/05/2018 08:17

Research and post grad study will be highly impacted. The quality and impact of our universities is measured on the research output and quality. This is where all the innovation happens.