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Uni offers for 2017 start

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Carriemac · 19/10/2016 07:25

Could we have a handholding thread? I have two DCs going through UCSS at the moment, would love to obsess here so I can appear calm on the outside.
LNAT results go to the UNIs tomorrow I think, so offers could be rolling in soon for DD who has applied for law.

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TheMortificadosDragon · 13/12/2016 21:41

Rights, DD said that at her elec eng interviews (inc Manc) the lads were in everything from jeans to suits. She went for black skinnies, plain woolly and shirt - casual but not scruffy. Hope he enjoys it - she esp liked the high voltage lab!

BehindTheBlueDoor · 13/12/2016 21:44

It'll all be ok tomorrow and good luck to both of you.
My DS unravelling too atm, it must be that time of year. DS offers nearly all in but high and schoolwork/revision seems never ending. Routine seems to work well for us. Hope your DS2 is asleep soon, mine out like a light tonight. Yay! Smile

BingBongBam · 13/12/2016 23:01

Ds is unravelling too, it needs to be the holidays but we have another week yet. Good luck to all with interviews and waiting for offers etc.

rightsofwomen · 13/12/2016 23:45

Thank you! End of term on Thursday for him. Poor lad is missing Xmas lunch and Xmas jumper day Xmas Sad

I've even made sandwiches for the journey.

rightsofwomen · 13/12/2016 23:48

Oh and he's got a phone "chat" with Sheffield on Friday, cos we're not going up for interview (it will most likely be his safe offer).

Still waiting to hear from Southampton which is most likely going to be his first choice (if he gets an offer) over Imperial.

TheMortificadosDragon · 14/12/2016 07:00

Rights - Southampton and sheffield are likely to be DDs final two also!

Needmoresleep · 14/12/2016 10:15

I remember the unravelling. Not particularly DD, though her medic application, a couple of school positions, and the fact she has been very ill over the summer into the start of the term, meant she was exhausted. The bigger problem was the way stress passed around until it affected many in the year group. Next term is, if anything worse. Mocks and course work, and for some interviews and rejections. (Not just medics. DS did not hear from Warwick, UCL and LSE till late March - and then two rejections and an offer.) And of course exams during the summer, especially difficult for those sitting on tough offers.

Sorry, that all sounds pretty gloomy. Part of the problem might have been that DD loved her sixth form and really wanted to eke every last minute of experience from it, so continued try and do everything. And did!

It passes, but Yr 13 is horrid. Particularly for our barely adults. All I can say is that if things don't go according to plan, it's not always a bad thing. Doing your best is all a student can do, and if it does not work out, having a rethink can deliver better ideas.

DD was worried about leaving school because she loved it so much, but the signs are that she may enjoy her gap year even more. Despite having to work harder than she has done before. And hopefully by September she will be sick of cooking and cleaning and appreciate being at University.

Good luck to everyone.

On clothing, I don't think it matters, with medicine an exception. This is one example:
"As we are seeking to identify your suitability for a clinical environment, we expect our interviewees to adopt the dress code required of clinical medical students at King's."

We struggled because so much smart casual on the high street is too middle aged for a 17 year old. In the end I left her in a smart boutique (Comptoir des Cottoniers - during the sale) and set a challenge for the helpful staff. After several trips to the stock room they came up with a lovely, well cut pair of black trousers, a dark and fairly plain printed top, and a loose cut black jacket to go with her black chelsea boots. If we had known what we were trying to achieve we could have done it cheaper at Zara or Mango, but the jacket is an absolute favourite and the top and trousers, though saved for "best", have had several outings. And DD felt comfortable, wearing her clothes rather than them wearing her.

EnormousTiger · 14/12/2016 12:35

My two break up at lunch time although one has 3 hours tonight playing his instrument for a school thing - 4th time in 3 days which is a lot of hours......
Never mind deadline for history course work for them both apparently although they might have a day or two extra for that. No more offers here. The remaining ones if they get them will be nearer the deadline next year now.

TheMortificadosDragon · 14/12/2016 13:31

Mine doesn't break up until next week - not sure which day. She seems fine, but doesn't have a lot of extracurricular stuff going on at the moment.

WetNovemberDay · 14/12/2016 13:45

DS has had an unconditional from Birmingham which was his tied first choice with Bristol.
Still waiting to hear from Bristol Exeter and Southampton.

EnormousTiger · 14/12/2016 14:27

I do feel the unconditionals are often the poisoned chalice, that they are the ones to reject and usually they are not quite as good places as the ones not making the unconditional offers and I know that my lot are likely to need high A level grades for careers so the more importance placed on getting high grades next summer the better. No slacking off.

rightsofwomen · 14/12/2016 16:05

Am in cafe Nero having traipsed around Manchester for hours...bloody tiring this interview malarkey!

NO John Lewis in the centre. I am disappointed!

DS should be done soon and then the long journey home.

TheMortificadosDragon · 14/12/2016 16:45

Yes, its quite annoying JL totally decamped to the Trafford Centre.

Re unconditional offers - I'm sure I came across some stats showing that there is a correlation with achieving lower a level grades but I'm darned if I can find it again now.

ono40 · 14/12/2016 20:45

Enormous, one of DS friends has two unconditionals for History and Spanish, one from Nottingham, one from Birmingham, her top two choices, so I wouldn't day these were 'not quite as good places' as those not making unconditional offers - obviously not Oxbridge but still great universities. Birmingham is 11th for history and came top in the country in the REF, ahead of Oxbridge.

I agree though that there is probably a correlation between lower grades and unconditionals which is possibly more likely in boys (friend of mine's son got BBC when predicted AAA). I wonder whether this will be a fad that lasts a couple of years and dies out?

EnormousTiger · 14/12/2016 21:13

One of mine has an unconditional from possibly the worst of his 5 choices which seems to be the case generally but was not historically so when 40 years ago Oxbridge would offer unconditional offers or two Es so perhaps it's all a bit unpredictable.

BingBongBam · 14/12/2016 21:19

wet Birmingham and Bristol are my ds's top two as well.

TheMortificadosDragon · 14/12/2016 21:37

The trend for unconditional offers at the moment is driven by the removal of the cap on numbers, isnt it - and some unis have made it their strategy to secure students. Birmingham seems to have adopted this strategy particularly enthusiastically (though not for all courses). But if loads of places do it then it wont work very well. Of course, different places will have different criteria, I think b'ham does it for applicants with predictions of at least 3A.

JugglingFromHereToThere · 14/12/2016 22:16

I would think an unconditional offer is quite nice to have, perhaps especially as an insurance choice.
But obviously all offers have to be considered carefully, alongside other offers.
Deciding which one to go for as your firm seems particularly important and therefore potentially tricky.
We've had 3 offers so far and have been booking some applicant days which hopefully might shed some light on the situation for DD.
Particularly encouraged so far by a generous offer from Swansea, which I think would be a lovely part of the world to find oneself in for those student years.

TheMortificadosDragon · 14/12/2016 22:58

The catch is that the usual condition of the unconditional is that it has to be your firm though. An unconditional as reserve would be nice!

KnowOneNose · 15/12/2016 01:12

MortificardosDragon.

I can't find my post but I recently linked to at UCAS report on Predicted grades. It was in one of the Higher Education threads and I was posting under a different name so maybe that where you saw it.

When I posted the link I was able to access the report in full but for some reason it's asking me to log in now??? Anyway the information is in a UCAS undergraduate analysis report Factors associated with predicted and achieved A level attainment – published 4 August 2016. This link takes you to the UCAS page with the link to the report, maybe the fact I can't open it now is just a temporary problem
I'm speaking from memory but you are right that there is a link between a student getting lower than predicted grades and having accepted an unconditional offer. The report was based on 18/19 year old A'level applicants from England (I think??)

EnormousTiger · 15/12/2016 06:49

Mort, true. My one boy with an unconditional (Notts) has an unconditional offer only if firmed (it is not his first choice so no chance of that when he's decided he can "easily" get the Bristol grades (or so he says......)) but if not firmed is AAB.

JugglingFromHereToThere · 15/12/2016 07:36

Ah yes, i forgot that for a minute. So really they're rather conditional un-conditionals aren't they?
Seems we weren't quite in the running for one anyway, but maybe that's not all bad.
I guess they can be a complicating factor Xmas Confused

BehindTheBlueDoor · 15/12/2016 09:07

Conditional unconditionals are an odd phenomenon aren't they? DS has one if he firms but that's not currently his first choice. If he puts it as his insurance his required grades are A*AA which are exactly the same as all his other offers to date.

JugglingFromHereToThere · 15/12/2016 09:30

That sounds quite tricky BlueDoor - depending how he feels about both the course and the place I would think that's got to be tempting?

KnowOneNose · 15/12/2016 10:10

I found my previous post containing a working link to that Aug 2016 UCAS report on predicted grades. It doesn't quite make sense out of context of the other thread but the link works. 👍🏻😀

Two grades higher than predicted is very unlikely. In 2015 only 1.9 per cent of uK 18 year olds applicants holding A levels exceeded their predicted grades by two grades INFO HERE

It's also stated in the report than In 2015, applicants holding unconditional firm offers were 23 per cent more likely to miss their predicted attainment by two or more grades, compared to applicants holding conditional firm offers and considering that over half of all applicants already miss their predicted grades by TWO OR MORE grades then that's quite significant

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