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Guest post: “All women and girls should be able to experience the joy, fulfilment, and lifelong benefits of sport”

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JuliaMumsnet · 09/06/2021 17:07

Stephanie Hilborne

CEO at Women in Sport

Earlier this year, Women in Sport released first a report on the impact of the pandemic on teenage girls' sports and exercise and later launched a campaign on the menopause and sports. We asked CEO Stephanie Hilborne to tell us more about these issues and Women in Sport more widely:

"When someone says the word "sport" what’s the first thing you think of?

For me, it is gazing longingly out of the window at the netball courts during French class. But our charity Women in Sport knows that for many women the opposite is true. "Sport" brings back horrible memories of school. Whether it was being forced to wear “gym knickers” or a leotard when you were on a period or never getting picked for the team because you weren’t “sporty”.

And yet the word sport means “being carried away from stress and responsibility”. It’s about having fun. I don’t know many women who would reject the idea of less responsibility and more freedom.

Now think about exercise. What do you first think about when someone says the word “exercise”? Many women we talk to wince because they think they should be doing more of it. For others, serious exercise conjures up pain and suffering. But when we actually get around to going out for a brisk walk or even a run, we feel great. Our bodies release endorphins when we exercise, which is the healthiest way to get high.

Women in Sport has been looking into the lives of teenage girls and women during the last year and finding out how lockdown has affected women’s experiences of, and views on, exercise and sport. Before the pandemic, Sport England statistics showed that the gap was closing but women were still slightly less active than men overall.

The biggest gender gap was in team sport – with 25% fewer girls than boys involved in teams and paltry opportunities for girls at school. That’s why the closure of schools affected boys’ sports the worst.

Why should we care about team sport? Because being in joint endeavour, in a team, trying to win while having fun brings lifelong benefits. If more girls had positive experiences of team sport at school, more women would enter the workplace and wider society trained to lead, to take risks, and to be resilient if they lose.

So, what did we find out about girls in lockdown? During the pandemic, the Government put exercise front and centre as one of the few ways we were able to leave our homes. This opportunity has released some girls into new worlds. We talked to teenage girls going for walks outside with friends for the first time, and 82% of girls said they would put more effort into being active when life returned to normal. Teenage girls we spoke to recognised the value of exercise for their physical and mental health, some for the very first time. They may not know that research shows a positive impact of outdoor sport on body image, but they are feeling it.

Then we spoke to the women. We know that women have borne the brunt of pandemic redundancies and that home-schooling has exposed ongoing stereotypes and gender inequalities in the home. The women we spoke to were time deprived. 32% of women said they could not prioritise exercise during lockdown as they had too much to do for others. But on the positive side, the crisis has led people to reappraise. People have been resetting their priorities and there is more motivation to exercise than there used to be. 85% of women in our research said they would either put more effort into being fit and active or would keep up being active after lockdown.

Our recent new research into women around the menopause showed that this too can prompt reappraisal. So, the double whammy of an unprecedented pandemic and an unprecedented change in hormones seems to be triggering a bit of a revolution amongst midlife women.

One of the most fascinating insights we gleaned even before the pandemic was how much teenage girls cherished time alone with their mum or mother figures in their lives. They saw such relationships as ‘safe spaces’ without fear of judgement. Lockdown has exaggerated this feeling and girls have appreciated time being active outside, in nature, in a safe context without toxic commentary from peers.

Last year we launched our #TimeTogether campaign based on our understanding that midlife women and teenage girls both face unique physical challenges and pressures, and that they want to support one another. Women and girls also know they ought to be more active, but many find it hard to act on that. So, we’re inspiring women and girls to team up, to get active and have fun together outside. As we go back to some normality post lockdown, this special relationship may well help overcome shared concerns about loss of fitness or being in large groups.

The pandemic has led to a growing intolerance of inequality, whether racial, economic, or gender inequality. At Women in Sport, we’ve been intolerant of this for a long time. We know that less wealthy women from certain diverse backgrounds are the least active of all. How wrong is this, that society is denying these girls and women joy and health?

The pandemic exposed underlying inequalities in society across the board, and elite sport was no exception. In August 2020 a BBC survey of elite British sportswomen showed 86% earnt less than £30k from sport, and 60% less than £10k and one in five believed they may have to give up their sport due to the crisis to focus on having a normal job. At the same time women’s sport all but disappeared from our screens. The women’s football Euros were pushed back to 2022 to make way for the men’s Euros to be played in 2021. The Women’s Six Nations was never completed, the 2020 Netball Super League, Football Women’s Super League and Championship were all cancelled. In contrast, the top three tiers of men’s football continued their 2019-20 season; the men’s Premiership Rugby 2019-20 season restarted in August, the men’s Six Nations was completed.

So it is hardly surprising that half as many girls as boys dreamt about reaching the top of sport (30% cf 60%) in a survey we ran with Sports Direct in March 2021. We should not be denying our girls the chance to dream.

We want to redefine the relationship that many girls and women have with sport and exercise. This should be about fun, and we have a right to fun at every time in our lives. Yes, we could be drawing joy from sport, even as teenagers when everywhere you look people are commenting on your appearance; and even in mid-life when that pressure cooker of responsibility means our own needs come last. We want the legacy of the pandemic to be a break down in negative gender stereotypes and the emergence of a new normal in which all women and girls can experience the joy, fulfilment, and lifelong benefits of sport."

EDIT: Stephanie will be coming back onto the thread at 11am on Thursday 17th June to answer your questions.

Guest post: “All women and girls should be able to experience the joy, fulfilment, and lifelong benefits of sport”
Guest post: “All women and girls should be able to experience the joy, fulfilment, and lifelong benefits of sport”
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Sometimesfraught82 · 13/06/2021 07:39

I also agree with the poster who said there are no avenues to play competitively if you aren't the very best

Of course there is. But it requires effort!
A local woman set up a netball team, and it really took off. They now compete locally. Likewise - a friend did this with badminton. Even set up a league. Took loads of effort on her part

Loads of men do with with football and rugby.

sharksarecool · 13/06/2021 08:58

I'm sorry that so many people seem to have had bad exprriences if sport at school, but I am a bit dismayed at the vehement opposition to sport by many here.

I HATE Art and Craft and I'm rubbish at it. But I appreciate it has benefits for many people even if not for me. And if there was a guest post on the benefits of Art for mental health or similar, I wouldn't go onto it and post about how I hate Art and think it's pointless.

As an adult, I play a team sport on teams with adults and teens as young as 13. There are LOADS of benefits for young people. These include:

  • Learning that you can be 3-1 down at half time, and still win.So keep trying right up to the end
  • Learning that sometimes you won't win, and how to deal with failure
  • That even the best player on the team needs to pass the ball. You cant do it all yourself and sometimes others are in a better position.
  • That you have to just keeping on going even though you're knackered
  • That your team mates will make mistakes that cost you the game, but they're trying their best so lay off them
  • That you will sometimes make mistakes that cost your team the game, but you have to find a way to pick yourself up from that
  • That you have to respect the umpires decision even if you disagree with it. And that if you get stroppy, you'll get sent off and that will impact he whole team
  • Realising that to do your best you will need to get sweaty and red-faced, and not caring, because for just 60-90 minutes its not all about what we look like
  • Realising that while you might be faster and fitter than the 38 year old defender, she can still beat you because she has more experience and game knowledge. Gradually learning to value the wisdom of older women, both on and off the pitch
Mischance · 13/06/2021 09:50

The only thing I learned from school sport was imagination and ingenuity, both required for finding a way of getting out of it! - how many times can one grandmother die!?

Seriously, school sport is a disaster - it is the prime reason why women do not get the exercise that we might need - because it was an unmitigated misery at school.

I am not a great fan of team sports - the gladiatorial element creeps me out - I really do not have a competitive bone in my body.

Here's what girls (and boys) could be doing in school to get exercise: dance, dance, dance, trampolining, non-competitive swimming, etc.

Have you any idea what it is like for a non-sporty person to be forced to do things that are totally out of their comfort zone? It is like a class music teacher insisting that every child pick up a violin and play a Grade 8 piece when they have never touched a violin before. I was tall and slender and sporty looking at school and I spent a great deal of time trying to convince the PE teacher that my sporting prowess/interest was zilch. And being asked to climb the wall bars or walk along a bar was hell for me, as I have always had a poor sense of balance.

School sport is just plain grim; and sports teachers need to grasp the fact that many people just simply hate it - and that their gung-ho approach makes us hate it even more.

Viviennemary · 13/06/2021 10:06

I loathed loathed loathed sport at school. It was torture. Would never partake in it voluntarily. If folk like it that's up to them. But leave the rest of us out thanks. And all that bad publicity re mean/cruel coaches.

Ladyrattles · 13/06/2021 10:26

I wish every adult had access to team sports. It shouldn't matter what experience or ability you have, or how fit you are. I'm an unfit overweight menopausal older woman with a coordination condition so I feel excluded from sport. Would I still love to have a try at team activities? Absolutely, if it was with similar people like me. Also... PE for all ages would be brilliant.

JenniferAllisonPhillipaSue · 13/06/2021 10:28

My school carefully offered a range of sport, including non-competitive swimming, aerobics, trampolining, alongside the more traditional team sports. I didn't enjoy any of it then, and have never found a sport that I actually enjoy. From my perspective, all girls should have the opportunity to enjoy solving a really complex mathematical equation, or formatting a really neatly but artistically designed document ...

Ritasueandbobtoo9 · 13/06/2021 10:35

My sons school has set PE lessons for those good at sports and PE lessons for those who are less good at Sports. As he is a bit dyspraxic this is really good. He enjoys PE whereas me (visual problems) was always last to be picked in games. The teachers are amazing at being positive about everyone enjoying and participating and to be honest I nearly cried at parents evening when the PE teacher found really good things to say about him. I know that this is boys sport but I do think that the time the school sets about health benefits and being involved etc is really key.

Mintjulia · 13/06/2021 10:37

@sharksarecool The thing is that the OP shows no comprehension of the misery that sport causes and she needs to if she is going to have any beneficial effect.

With art or history, no one else knows if you get a d-, a bad result isn't paraded for the entire school to see, no-one bullies you or humiliates you if you don't understand post-Impressionism. It isn't physical or painful. There's no comparison.

Taking a more positive approach would be offering a non-competitive option. Stop calling it sport, change that to health and exercise. Link food tech with exercise so kids understand how diet has an effect. Those would be helpful moves.

Reallyreallyborednow · 13/06/2021 10:51

Thinking about it, dc’s school stream sport. Those good at school team sports like netball and athletics in one class, ranging through to the unenthusiastic encouraged to just do general activity.

Did make me laugh though when dc was given an E for PE for first year of secondary- they’re a GB athlete, just not in a sport done at school.

LateAtTate · 13/06/2021 10:56

@sharksarecool nobody is saying that there are no benefits to team sports.
The problem is that unlike art, team sports require a large enough number of people to be interested in it, if the ultimate goal is for women’s team sports to be on the standing, sponsorship and money-making opportunities as the men. Hence the evangelical tone of this post. More people interested in team sports benefits OP and her peers financially. It has nothing to do with her faux concern for the ‘wellbeing of women’.

What women are saying OTOH is that team sports have actually turned them off sport and they’d much prefer other things. They therefore don’t support the cause. Which is completely fine.

Also as an aside there are lots of sports such as gymnastics where women excel and that lots love watching. I’d rather these became a thing than the sports that are currently huge just because ‘men’ like them and they’re suited to the male physique.

LateAtTate · 13/06/2021 10:57

*it has nothing to do with her concern (obviously fake)

Reallyreallyborednow · 13/06/2021 11:09

Also as an aside there are lots of sports such as gymnastics where women excel and that lots love watching. I’d rather these became a thing than the sports that are currently huge just because ‘men’ like them and they’re suited to the male physique

Yet even with gymnastics, it isn’t done for fitness and enjoyment. Thousands of little girls start, but the vast majority have quit before 12, no small part due to the competitive aspect and if you aren’t one of the super talented, you get once a week class with a 15 year old coach and never learn anything. While those who are talented get 21+ hours a week and immense pressure.

It’s no coincidence that while girls vastly outnumber boys in gymnastics, it’s the men who are bringing home the world and olympic medals.

MaMelon · 13/06/2021 11:14

I hated the competitive team sport at school but loved modern dance (shows you how old I am!) and the 100m. At 5’ 1” all the girls who were really good at sport were massive compared to me and loved it if they were my opponent as Iwas easy to beat.

There also seemed to be a heck of a lot of bitchiness from the sporty Queen Bees - if your face didn’t fit, or you were shy, or you weren’t very good then they didn’t hold back in telling you - it was exhausting.

Now I’m in my fifties and still hate competitive or group sport. I’ve joined a few things over the years that have promised faithfully that they absolutely take beginners and it’s all about having fun - only to find it’s absolutely not about beginners having fun.

My small, size 6, 22 year old daughter recently joined a ‘fun’ netball club. The first week was great, it was a small group as a lot couldn’t make the first week back and it was very relaxed. The second week the remainder of the group turned up. Tall, strong women who took it very seriously. Third week - they decided they needed to get fit for competitions so they’re hiring a PT to run a boot camp as part of the weekly netball session. DD is not going back.

Obviously that’s just one example out of millions but having has similar experiences myself I imagine it’s not unique. It’s a vicious cycle - girls are turned off group sport at school, and then when they decide later in life to try again they find the clubs inhabited by the same ‘sporty’ girls they went to school with.

AccidentallyOnPurpose · 13/06/2021 11:17

One of the issues I've encountered when trying to keep DD interested in sports was the pressure. As soon as the coaches (and this was relaxed ,after school type clubs) cottoned on that she was really good they started putting on the pressure "join my club", "sign up for this", "go to this competition " , "I'll sign you up for your belt exam". Even after I told them repeatedly she has no interest and she's doing it just for the fun of it and because she enjoys running around. The more pressure and attention they gave her, the less likely she was to continue and engage with it. So off we went to find something new or a different club .

MaMelon · 13/06/2021 11:22

As an aside - why do these national sports bodies always hire very sporty women to look at why women and girls don’t do more sport, rather than employing women/girls who hate it? If you really want to encourage more females into sport you need someone who truly understands why they were turned off sport - and what could have been done to turn them onto it.

Mintjulia · 13/06/2021 11:33

@mamelon Exactly this.

LuckyWookie · 13/06/2021 11:47

There are LOADS of benefits for young people. These include:
But you can get those same benefits from other team activities, without the risk of physical injury or being bullied or feeling like a failure. And then get some exercise through a different non-competitive activity. There is literally no reason to do sport other than you enjoy it... and a lot of people don’t.

Egeegogxmv · 13/06/2021 11:51

My experience of sport at school was a few elites looking down on the rest of us who were crap, I suppose it mirrors the situation in the rest of society where the wealthy at the top feast on the fruits of all human endeavour and the rest of us (who did the hard work) get the crumbs

LuckyWookie · 13/06/2021 11:53

MaMelon absolutely. If you want fat 40-something women like me to do sport then you need to understand why I don’t like sport. A slim sporty woman is never going to understand how I feel or what adaptations I’d need in order to make sport accessible to me.

MaMelon · 13/06/2021 12:10

Exactly LuckyWookie - and you need the club organisers to actually put these recommendations in place, rather making empty promises and paying lip service to inclusivity.

Oh - and see when clubs say ‘beginners welcome’? That should mean women who are complete beginners to all sports, not women who are sporty and fit who are new to this particular sport.

Mintjulia · 13/06/2021 12:14

Perhaps Stephanie could help by supporting parkrun where they really do welcome people who want to start by walking round and build fitness/confidence from there.

carolinesbaby · 13/06/2021 12:15

@LuckyWookie

There are LOADS of benefits for young people. These include: But you can get those same benefits from other team activities, without the risk of physical injury or being bullied or feeling like a failure. And then get some exercise through a different non-competitive activity. There is literally no reason to do sport other than you enjoy it... and a lot of people don’t.
Exactly this
memberofthewedding · 13/06/2021 12:17

I have bloody hated sport since I was a kid in school and MADE to do it. I had this conversation back in the late 1950s with the sports teacher:-

teacher: you really aren't interested in sport are you member?

me: no miss, Im no good at it and I dont see the point

teacher: you cant go through life just avoiding the things you dont like.

me: look miss, Im top of the class in 5 academic subjects. Its those Im going to be putting down on my cv and application forms when Im looking for work. Im going into the civil service or one of the professions. Im not looking for a job as a sports teacher

teacher: your a cheeky child member

me: no miss, you asked me a question and I answered you.

carolinesbaby · 13/06/2021 12:17

@Mintjulia

Perhaps Stephanie could help by supporting parkrun where they really do welcome people who want to start by walking round and build fitness/confidence from there.
I found my local park run exactly like every other form of sport I'd ever tried. A hoard of slim athletic people who hared off in front leaving me behind plodding along feeing useless. Prizes and accolades for the fastest. Public humiliation for the slowest.
sharksarecool · 13/06/2021 12:21

I do have sympathy for those who had a tough time with school sport. I was "sporty" at school but most of my friends werent and I have memories of times when they were treated pretty badly. It seemed like the Maths/French/History teachers had to engage with all pupils regardless of their ability, whereas the PE teachers were allowed to siphon off the talented ones and then ignore/shout at the rest.

I would say that things really have started to change in schools (I am a teacher - NOT PE though.) I now see a lot more different types if sport and games available, with focus on improvement and building skills. Pupils are taught how to hold a rounders bat and learn techniques for throwing and catching, rather than just throwing them all into a game. The focus in good PE lessons is the same as any subject: meet pupils at their current ability level and look for ways to help thrm improve, while fostering enjoyment for the subject.

What I find a bit upsetting about people's negativity with sport is that it will almost certainly rub off on your children. When children hear parents saying "I could never do Maths" or "I found languages really boring", the children often approach those subjects with a negative bias which limits their attainment. So if you as an adult hate sport because of horrible experiences at school then it may well be too late for you but it might not be for your children so its worth trying to be positive.

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