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Guest post: “All women and girls should be able to experience the joy, fulfilment, and lifelong benefits of sport”

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JuliaMumsnet · 09/06/2021 17:07

Stephanie Hilborne

CEO at Women in Sport

Earlier this year, Women in Sport released first a report on the impact of the pandemic on teenage girls' sports and exercise and later launched a campaign on the menopause and sports. We asked CEO Stephanie Hilborne to tell us more about these issues and Women in Sport more widely:

"When someone says the word "sport" what’s the first thing you think of?

For me, it is gazing longingly out of the window at the netball courts during French class. But our charity Women in Sport knows that for many women the opposite is true. "Sport" brings back horrible memories of school. Whether it was being forced to wear “gym knickers” or a leotard when you were on a period or never getting picked for the team because you weren’t “sporty”.

And yet the word sport means “being carried away from stress and responsibility”. It’s about having fun. I don’t know many women who would reject the idea of less responsibility and more freedom.

Now think about exercise. What do you first think about when someone says the word “exercise”? Many women we talk to wince because they think they should be doing more of it. For others, serious exercise conjures up pain and suffering. But when we actually get around to going out for a brisk walk or even a run, we feel great. Our bodies release endorphins when we exercise, which is the healthiest way to get high.

Women in Sport has been looking into the lives of teenage girls and women during the last year and finding out how lockdown has affected women’s experiences of, and views on, exercise and sport. Before the pandemic, Sport England statistics showed that the gap was closing but women were still slightly less active than men overall.

The biggest gender gap was in team sport – with 25% fewer girls than boys involved in teams and paltry opportunities for girls at school. That’s why the closure of schools affected boys’ sports the worst.

Why should we care about team sport? Because being in joint endeavour, in a team, trying to win while having fun brings lifelong benefits. If more girls had positive experiences of team sport at school, more women would enter the workplace and wider society trained to lead, to take risks, and to be resilient if they lose.

So, what did we find out about girls in lockdown? During the pandemic, the Government put exercise front and centre as one of the few ways we were able to leave our homes. This opportunity has released some girls into new worlds. We talked to teenage girls going for walks outside with friends for the first time, and 82% of girls said they would put more effort into being active when life returned to normal. Teenage girls we spoke to recognised the value of exercise for their physical and mental health, some for the very first time. They may not know that research shows a positive impact of outdoor sport on body image, but they are feeling it.

Then we spoke to the women. We know that women have borne the brunt of pandemic redundancies and that home-schooling has exposed ongoing stereotypes and gender inequalities in the home. The women we spoke to were time deprived. 32% of women said they could not prioritise exercise during lockdown as they had too much to do for others. But on the positive side, the crisis has led people to reappraise. People have been resetting their priorities and there is more motivation to exercise than there used to be. 85% of women in our research said they would either put more effort into being fit and active or would keep up being active after lockdown.

Our recent new research into women around the menopause showed that this too can prompt reappraisal. So, the double whammy of an unprecedented pandemic and an unprecedented change in hormones seems to be triggering a bit of a revolution amongst midlife women.

One of the most fascinating insights we gleaned even before the pandemic was how much teenage girls cherished time alone with their mum or mother figures in their lives. They saw such relationships as ‘safe spaces’ without fear of judgement. Lockdown has exaggerated this feeling and girls have appreciated time being active outside, in nature, in a safe context without toxic commentary from peers.

Last year we launched our #TimeTogether campaign based on our understanding that midlife women and teenage girls both face unique physical challenges and pressures, and that they want to support one another. Women and girls also know they ought to be more active, but many find it hard to act on that. So, we’re inspiring women and girls to team up, to get active and have fun together outside. As we go back to some normality post lockdown, this special relationship may well help overcome shared concerns about loss of fitness or being in large groups.

The pandemic has led to a growing intolerance of inequality, whether racial, economic, or gender inequality. At Women in Sport, we’ve been intolerant of this for a long time. We know that less wealthy women from certain diverse backgrounds are the least active of all. How wrong is this, that society is denying these girls and women joy and health?

The pandemic exposed underlying inequalities in society across the board, and elite sport was no exception. In August 2020 a BBC survey of elite British sportswomen showed 86% earnt less than £30k from sport, and 60% less than £10k and one in five believed they may have to give up their sport due to the crisis to focus on having a normal job. At the same time women’s sport all but disappeared from our screens. The women’s football Euros were pushed back to 2022 to make way for the men’s Euros to be played in 2021. The Women’s Six Nations was never completed, the 2020 Netball Super League, Football Women’s Super League and Championship were all cancelled. In contrast, the top three tiers of men’s football continued their 2019-20 season; the men’s Premiership Rugby 2019-20 season restarted in August, the men’s Six Nations was completed.

So it is hardly surprising that half as many girls as boys dreamt about reaching the top of sport (30% cf 60%) in a survey we ran with Sports Direct in March 2021. We should not be denying our girls the chance to dream.

We want to redefine the relationship that many girls and women have with sport and exercise. This should be about fun, and we have a right to fun at every time in our lives. Yes, we could be drawing joy from sport, even as teenagers when everywhere you look people are commenting on your appearance; and even in mid-life when that pressure cooker of responsibility means our own needs come last. We want the legacy of the pandemic to be a break down in negative gender stereotypes and the emergence of a new normal in which all women and girls can experience the joy, fulfilment, and lifelong benefits of sport."

EDIT: Stephanie will be coming back onto the thread at 11am on Thursday 17th June to answer your questions.

Guest post: “All women and girls should be able to experience the joy, fulfilment, and lifelong benefits of sport”
Guest post: “All women and girls should be able to experience the joy, fulfilment, and lifelong benefits of sport”
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ABBC · 14/06/2021 11:17

I did parkrun to lose baby weight. I liked the fact that I wasn't the oldest, the slowest, the fattest.

This is all very well, unless you are the oldest, slowest or fattest.

And someone always is. And that person is highly unlikely to bother again.

MaMelon · 14/06/2021 11:43

Agree ABBC. Park run is competitive - otherwise why are participants timed? Why not just invite people to turn up and make it clear that it’s not timed, it’s purely for fun? I’d ban all running clubs tbh, Why not call it Park Fit, something like that? And why - for the love of gods - do they have this on their website?
Average finish time: 00:28:52
Female record: Charlotte ARTER – 15:49 ( 1 Feb 2020)
Male record: Andrew BADDELEY – 13:48 (11 Aug 2012)
Age graded record: Fauja SINGH - 179.04% 38:34 (31 Mar 2012)

So what?! It’s supposed to be fun but it’s quite clear that it’s competitive - as a result I now know that I am way behind the average finish time. Excellent.

MaMelon · 14/06/2021 11:44

Ban running clubs from Park Run I mean.

Topseyt · 14/06/2021 14:21

Why should we care about team sport? Because being in joint endeavour, in a team, trying to win while having fun brings lifelong benefits. If more girls had positive experiences of team sport at school, more women would enter the workplace and wider society trained to lead, to take risks, and to be resilient if they lose

I don't agree with this. It seems to imply that those of us who were not good at team sports would be unable to work as part of a team in the workplace.

Why is there this analogy? Why is it still so persistent? I haven't found this to be the case at all. I am not a team sports player but have been perfectly able to work as teams at work in the office etc. It isn't remotely the same thing as the torture of having to play netball, hockey or other competitive sports.

This nonsense used to be spouted regularly when I was at school too. Especially by the PE department at secondary school. We were told that if we were unable to function as part of a sports team then we would be useless in the world of work etc. It was yet another aspect of school PE that seemed designed to make us feel bad about ourselves.

The other favourite mantra of our PE department was "there is no such word as can't." So they thought everyone should be able to do everything to the same level regardless of ability level, disability, illness, medical conditions or circumstance! No nuances or variations at all. We were all the same. That was nonsense then and it is nonsense now. It served only to make the less naturally sporty or less able people feel embarrassed or bad about themselves.

I think school PE needs a complete rethink and a lot more imagination used when setting the curriculum.

Of course there is a place for competitive team sports for those who are so inclined. There should also be sport/exercise available for those who are less (or not at all) competitive and who just want exercise they can do and enjoy for themselves for basic fitness. By that I mean using the gym (one with weights and machines, not the ridiculous old fashioned school gymnasiums), swimming just for themselves, walking, running, dance (if desired), yoga, pilates, zumba. All can be done non-competitively, fairly privately and without the public humiliation of displaying your weaknesses for all and sundry to see.

School PE lessons were a magnet for the bullies and body shamers. It was also uncontrolled.

I wish you well. I don't necessarily disagree with your cause if it is to gain more equality for women who are professionals in their chosen sports. It is the emphasis being so heavily on team sports that I take issue with. That and the crap way it is still all too often taught in schools, with even teachers joining in bullying in some cases.

PlanDeRaccordement · 14/06/2021 14:28

@Topseyt

Yes completely agree. Very long. And some areas were very insensitive. Like the Time Together campaign two paragraphs on that about mothers abs daughters but not even one sentence addressing what mothers who have no daughters, or lost their daughter(s) or what girls with no mother or have lost their mother can do. So single father families, orphans, and mothers with no daughters or lost daughter(s)....completely ignored.

And I’d rather she have replaced the elite sport whining paragraph with one about any kind of campaign for disabled girls and women? Yes not all are Paralympic athletes, but disabled people also can benefit from sports/exercise with adjustments. Where is the campaign and support for them? OP could have mentioned wheel chair net ball....just one sentence to be inclusive. But again another glaring blank spot.

annacondom · 14/06/2021 14:45

I hate sport. Can't catch a ball to save my life. But I love dance. I get the same high from Fitsteps that you probably get from netball, which I dreaded at school. Why can't more exercise for girls in schools be dance-based? The only time I liked gym at school was when it rained and we had country dancing or freestyle to the Rolling Stones, our teacher's favourite band!

ExConstance · 14/06/2021 15:29

I have hated sport all my life. Why would anyone want to get muddy and cold playing hockey? Wet and smelling of chlorine swimming? Watch 22 people kicking a ball about for 90 minutes?

I accept the importance of exercise, I do that, sometimes I enjoy it but with the exception of possibly equestrian or motor sport it is, from my point of view, a waste of time.

carolinesbaby · 14/06/2021 15:42

@annacondom

I hate sport. Can't catch a ball to save my life. But I love dance. I get the same high from Fitsteps that you probably get from netball, which I dreaded at school. Why can't more exercise for girls in schools be dance-based? The only time I liked gym at school was when it rained and we had country dancing or freestyle to the Rolling Stones, our teacher's favourite band!
Because lots of us hate dance as well as sport because it's just another way to make yourself look foolish and have everyone else laugh at you because you're not able to remember the moves/the fattest one there/have no /rhythm/whatever. It's just as publicly embarrassing.
ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 14/06/2021 16:00

I hate it all. My sports are walking and gardening. I would have quite liked yoga at school l tho k.

The name ‘sport’ in schools need to be replaced by ‘activities’l think. Yuk sweat by changing rooms

Hydrate · 14/06/2021 17:03

"When someone says the word "sport" what’s the first thing you think of?"
I hate sports.

Sorry, the post was far too wordy to get through. Could you make a bullet list of questions instead?

murbblurb · 14/06/2021 17:23

Loving that the op is getting a polite roasting here. Should assist in empathising with the bullying that 'team' sports cause if you aren't good or teachers favourite.

MaMelon · 14/06/2021 17:25

Has the OP been back to address any of the points?

Sumerisicumenin · 14/06/2021 17:33

I hated every second of school sport. I was made to feel useless and stupid twice a week for 14 years. It was relentless. The last day of the 6th form, I threw my trainers on the bonfire

@Mintjulia, I felt the same, but at 16 I went to college. You had to do an activity unrelated to your course on Wednesday afternoons.
But the choices were vast, so I became an archer.
If you see me running, or throwing something, or hitting something, it’s because one of my children is in danger. Otherwise, you’re hallucinating.

SamusIsAGirl · 14/06/2021 17:34

There are a lot of points to address but similar ones do turn up - these can be prioritised but to be fair there is a lot to get through.

Sumerisicumenin · 14/06/2021 17:34

@MaMelon

Has the OP been back to address any of the points?
You think she wants to engage with any of us Negative Nellies? 🤣
MaMelon · 14/06/2021 17:37

GrinGrin @Sumerisicumenin

But I want to know the joy and fulfilment and lifelong benefit of team and competitive sport!!!

Binglebong · 14/06/2021 18:26

Several people, myself included, have mentioned PE teachers not believing when someone is in pain. One PP said the teacher laughed about not believing her.

Until you get it into PE teachers that they are not medics, that they may be able to spot something is wrong and tell them to visit a doctor but they cannot overrule one, you will not get people loving sports. Teach them to teach exercise safely and to do things in multiple ways in case it causes pain and you have a start. But with the current crop you are on to a loser.

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 14/06/2021 18:53

My dd’s teacher make them do it even if they have an injury. It’s departmental policy. We complained when Dd sprained her ankle.

PE at schools needs an absolute overhaul IMO. Who even cares about netball or hockey? They’re stuck in the 50’s. Pilates, Zumba and yoga are much more relevant.

JustGotToKeepOnKeepingOn · 14/06/2021 19:00

I started secondary school with no knowledge of how to play netball, hockey and tennis. And left with no knowledge of how to play netball, hockey and tennis.

PE was a nightmare. Being forced to take our skirts off for athletics - while all the boys walked past. Total humiliation. Especially for the one girl allowed to keep her skirt on as she had her period.

Girls PE kit urgently needs to be reviewed. Boys shorts are practically at their knees. Girls shorts are cut high to show as much leg as possible. Tight polo shirts and shell-suit style tracksuit bottoms with zero stretch are just hopeless for moving in.

The communal changing rooms are completely unacceptable. As a grown woman I wouldn't be comfortable with that so why would we expect young girls and puberty to deal with to be happy with that?

My DD hasn't had to change for PE at secondary school yet. Coronavirus has kept the changing rooms closed. She is already panicking about having to change in front of her peers in September.

As a girl who is never ever going to win a race or be chosen to be part of a team, she's also very anxious about the annual humiliation of sports day. I have decided that I'll happily lie and say she is sick so she doesn't have to attend school that day.

FierceBarrie · 14/06/2021 19:22

PE at schools needs an absolute overhaul IMO. Who even cares about netball or hockey? They’re stuck in the 50’s. Pilates, Zumba and yoga are much more relevant.

They’re only relevant to the people who find them relevant. That’s the issue.

I have no interest in yoga, Pilates and Zumba. I find them dull, and the one and only time I did Zumba, I was a hot mess, as I didn’t know the routine.

Same with the PP suggesting dance would be a better option. Yes - for people who like dance. Not so much for those who don’t, and who hate it as much as others hate team sports.

Some people (lots, probably) do care about hockey and netball. Not me, for sure, but my DC definitely do. There probably just needs to be more of a mix, and an opportunity to do a wider range of different types of sports and activities during PE.

To be honest though, given who my country is punting up to the Olympics, my over-riding concern - as a parent of a 10YO daughter who loves sports, and will give anything a go - is the threat to women’s sports by the presence of male-bodied competitors.

Slightly amazed that the entire OP completely ignored that. This, more than anything, is the real and present threat to women’s sports, and women’s ongoing participation - and success - in sports.

MaMelon · 14/06/2021 19:28

Is it? I honestly don’t think the presence of male bodied people is the biggest thing that puts women and girls off sport or other form of fitness from an early age.

FierceBarrie · 14/06/2021 19:34

I did deliberately use the word ‘ongoing’.

No, it’s probably going to have zero impact on girls’ initial involvement and participation in sport (we’re generally talking about pre/pubescent girls here).

But I read the OP as behind about women in sport, and while male-bodied competitors may not necessarily be an issue for many, they certainly look like being an issue for those women who are competing seriously.

Plus I’m not sure what message it sends down to girls if the view up at the top is that there may be a cohort of competitors they will never be able to win against.

MaMelon · 14/06/2021 19:44

But you’re focusing on competitive sport as opposed to fitness or a love of movement. That’s precisely what so many of us have been complaining about - that even simple things like park runs have a competitive undercurrent when many women and girls just want to enjoy a range of sports/games/activity/whatever you want to call them. Schools start that competitive focus from a young age by introducing sports which must be won - rather than done individually for enjoyment. I’m not saying that males participating in female sports isn’t an issue but I think it moves the discussion away from women and girls and onto men.

Topseyt · 14/06/2021 21:07

@FierceBarrie

I did deliberately use the word ‘ongoing’.

No, it’s probably going to have zero impact on girls’ initial involvement and participation in sport (we’re generally talking about pre/pubescent girls here).

But I read the OP as behind about women in sport, and while male-bodied competitors may not necessarily be an issue for many, they certainly look like being an issue for those women who are competing seriously.

Plus I’m not sure what message it sends down to girls if the view up at the top is that there may be a cohort of competitors they will never be able to win against.

It doesn't have to be all about winning. Many of us would just have liked the option of exercise we could do to simply keep ourselves fit without having to compete with others all the time.

School PE was always hopeless at providing this.

Male bodied people being present would never have bothered me and doesn't now. Because I want an individual exercise program to keep myself fit. Non-competitively.

orchardgirl4 · 14/06/2021 21:35

I'd like to do more sports/exercise but there are few/no opportunities. I'd join a womens cycling group if one was available in my area that was not intimidating (just one exists but has strict rules on bike type etc.). I love dancing but there are no adult dance classes in my large town. I have done martial arts, but as an adult, again there are no classes. Nothing is set up for an adult woman that works during the week. Even things like Woman's Institue is not available to me as the meetings are during a working day. I have to drive 30 minutes one way to get to the nearest sewing class. But I live in a huge town!? I don't understand why there are so few groups of any sort I can join.