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Guest post: "What concerns me about Love Island is the demeaning treatment of women and its effect on those watching"

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MumsnetGuestPosts · 22/06/2018 15:44

As a parent, I know how hard it can be to control what your children watch and the messages they get from the media. In the age of social media and Netflix, we don’t just watch programmes on TV but on our phones, tablets and laptops, often in every room of the house. The premise of the popular reality TV show, Love Island, would make many parents cautious about their child tuning in. Couples are followed by cameras and share beds with each other, with adult themes and language. But what concerns me most is the effect on the children and teenagers who are watching the men’s demeaning treatment of the women on the show without that behaviour being checked or challenged. Before we know it, our kids are growing up thinking that it’s normal to belittle or degrade your partner.

We know that Love Island is not our first point of call for relationship advice. But as parents we do know that children and teenagers look to what they can view on TV and online to find out more about what to expect in romantic relationships.

Love Island is the highest rating programme on TV with around 3 million viewers tuning in every night. We know that its popularity will mean that more young people than ever will be looking up to the beautiful 20-something singles on the Spanish island, and aspire to be like them.

That’s why I was taken by Rosie’s courageous calling out of Adam’s behaviour, and as Chief Executive of Women’s Aid wanted to add my voice to hers.

On Tuesday night, there were clear warning signs in Adam’s behaviour and his treatment of Rosie. It made for uncomfortable viewing seeing him respond to Rosie’s attempt to talk to him about how his chasing of other women was making her feel upset. He trivialised her feelings, blamed her for his wandering eye and smirked, mocking her throughout the conversation. Worst of all, he made out that she is unbalanced by questioning her recall of recent events. Rosie’s response couldn’t have been better. She refused to accept his attempt to blame her and called out his behaviour as simply unacceptable.

Domestic abuse does not happen in a cultural vacuum. Violence against women happens every day to women on the street, at work and even in their own homes. There’s a clear link between the ‘everyday sexism’ women put up with on a daily basis and the sexual harassment, assault and domestic abuse that women overwhelmingly experience.

Many women watching the show will recognise Adam’s behaviour as something they have experienced in their relationships. For far too long this behaviour has been dismissed and even normalised as men just “being a lad” or “a ladies’ man”. Yet for many women it will have made them feel demeaned, degraded and upset.

What can be all too easily passed off as “laddish behaviour” actually has a much darker impact. From our work with survivors of domestic abuse, we know that a repeated pattern of controlling behaviour in a relationship is abuse. Emotional and psychological abuse has a devastating impact on survivors; it shatters your confidence and self-esteem, leaving you feeling isolated, confused and living in fear. I know that many survivors of abusive relationships who watch the show have had to switch off after some of the scenes in the villa triggered disturbing flashbacks for them.

That’s why it is so important to challenge this behaviour at the earliest opportunity. In calling out Adam’s behaviour Rosie has started a conversation about what makes a healthy – or unhealthy – relationship. Domestic abuse is often hidden behind closed doors, and is rarely spoken about. On Love Island, everything is out in the open, making it a good platform to talk about the issues. The setting may be artificial but the contestants are real and many of their experiences resonate with viewers. Some of the behaviours on display are exactly those women tell us they suffer in real life relationships, which if unchecked and repeated over long periods have devastating consequences.

This week Rosie stood up to Adam and challenged his authority (“Classic Adam, using excuses, blaming me for his behaviour. He always thinks he has the power”). This was a signal to children and teenagers that expecting respect in relationships should be the norm not the exception. Younger people need the language and tools to call out abusive behaviour when they see it and television can help open up the conversations we want to have with our kids.

Meanwhile, in real life victims of domestic abuse often suffer in silence and ‘victim-blaming’ puts a barrier in the way of them leaving an abusive relationships. We need to stand together and call out all forms of domestic abuse, emotional as well as physical. It is only when we speak out together against abuse in relationships that we will see a change in attitudes in every generation and put an end to domestic abuse.

Katie Ghose, Chief Executive of Women’s Aid


If you or someone you know is experiencing abuse in a relationship, call the Freephone 24/7 National Domestic Violence Helpline, run by Women’s Aid in partnership with Refuge, on 0808 2000 247 or visit //www.womensaid.org.uk.


Resources:

Freephone 24/7 National Domestic Violence Helpline, run by Women’s Aid in partnership with Refuge, on 0808 2000 247 www.nationaldomesticviolencehelpline.org.uk/
Women’s Aid www.womensaid.org.uk/
Coercive control toolkit – to help you talk to young people about healthy relationships www.womensaid.org.uk/controlling-behaviour-in-relationships-coercive-control/
The Hideout – for children and young people to find out more about what a healthy relationship if and where they can get support thehideout.org.uk/
Love Don’t Feel Bad – for young women to find out more about what abuse is and where to get help www.lovedontfeelbad.co.uk/

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RunMummyRun68 · 24/06/2018 05:51

How was his behaviour 'manipulative'? He didn't want anything from her! He didn't manipulate her in anyway

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Booie09 · 24/06/2018 06:37

Never ever watch it, but I can't escape it because it's everywhere...it's disgusting and I'm hoping by the time my daughter gets interested it will be just a tv memory! Adam seems like a total twat but what I can gather they flirted they had sex and then some new girl entered that caught his eye.....good for her for calling him out....but have some self respect and don't have sex to boost tv ratings.

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LARLARLAND · 24/06/2018 07:56

RunMummyRun It was extremely maniputlive. He decided he didn’t want to continue with Rosie and told her so and when she got upset he said that was the reason why he was dumping her. I am shocked that people can’t actually see that Shock

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Booie09 · 24/06/2018 08:07

The only reason why people go these shows is to try and get into the entertainment industry and gain Instagram followers.

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LARLARLAND · 24/06/2018 08:08

What’s wrong with that Booie?

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Shoxfordian · 24/06/2018 08:10

Adam was manipulative and he was trying to blame Rosie for him leaving to go with Zara instead when he clearly was going to do that regardless of how Rosie acted. He's a twat and Zara should be very wary; he will probably do exactly the same thing to her when another new girl goes into the villa.

Jack and Dani are adorable; they should win!

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Booie09 · 24/06/2018 08:12

If you want to be famous for shagging on tv nothing wrong with it!!

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LARLARLAND · 24/06/2018 08:17

They are young and stupid Booie and in any case not all of them have sex in there.

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Booie09 · 24/06/2018 08:52

I was young and stupid once....thank goodness it was not witnessed by millions of people....just saying they should think a bit more about there actions plus it's all staged anyway.

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Prawnofthepatriarchy · 24/06/2018 09:23

This programme is mindless, exploitative crap. I wouldn't watch it if you paid me hundreds.

I question MN putting this thread as a sticky on FWR. Feels like we're being giving hints as to how to feminist nicely. And encouraged to ignore the elephant in the room... Shock

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LARLARLAND · 24/06/2018 09:27

What’s the elephant in the room? Trans? If so not everyone wants to talk about that all the fucking time.

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Prawnofthepatriarchy · 24/06/2018 10:02

The elephant in the room is the effect of new MNHQ talk guidelines on feminist discussions, Larlar. Women are being prevented from using mainstream inoffensive phrases to placate trans rights activists who are picketing Mumsnet.

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MyRelationshipIsWeird · 24/06/2018 10:24

Women's aid are stupid then..... it's a few minutes of the day which is shown..... nobody saw the rest where maybe Rosie went batshit crazy and started throwing things at him, or the bit where she kicked off and smashed a hole in the wall.

ITV has edited it to make him look like a bad person

Seriously?! You think ANY contestant could have behaved like this and had it edited out? That’s exactly what they’re hoping for! They don’t have an agenda to stitch up a specific person and not another, that’s ridiculous!

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Dumela · 24/06/2018 11:18

I did watch the earlier ones in 2005? With Abby Titmus etc and I did like that. However, this time around, I think it's just another lot of silly people in it for fame. Pointless.

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LapinR0se · 24/06/2018 12:21

Wow I think Women’s Aid have made a massive leap here.
What is very good about all of this is that WA are using the popularity of Love Island as a platform to raise awareness of abuse. I do think that’s appropriate and pretty smart of them.
What is very very bad is their wording regarding Adam specifically. I would not be surprised if Adam sued them for slander or defamation of character when he gets out, and I wouldn’t blame him at all.

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RunMummyRun68 · 24/06/2018 14:03

myrelationship yes it's ridiculous isn't it.... it's how it works

Look at this years ratings.... people who watch every night aren't doing it to coo I've Jack and Dani are they??

As I said, my daughters close friend was on this show 2 years back.... and had a similiar experience with Her coupling. She said it was so heavily edited she barely recognised the incident

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RunMummyRun68 · 24/06/2018 14:06

Neither would I Lapin

And I still fail to see how he 'manipulated' Rosie.... he didn't. Look at Sam the other night.... he told Rosie he preferred brunettes, then half an hour later he's telling Ellie he prefers blondes. It's a game

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Booie09 · 24/06/2018 14:20

Men and Women say what they want you to hear to get you into bed!! How on earth can you really know somebody you just met 10 days ago! They must of seen the show before they went in....

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leontheprofessional · 24/06/2018 15:13

Who lets their kids watch love island I don't because it's bad parenting to let kids watch tv shows intended for adults

It's like video games parents let their kids play violent gore and the label says 18 years and above

I am not one of those parents

I enjoy watching love island but I don't allow my kids to watch it I record it and watch it when they are at school

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Eryngium · 24/06/2018 15:17

Wow. The MRA’s crawling all over this thread are making it abundantly clear why an organisation like Woman’s aid is so desperately needed.

"Won't somebody think of the man's reputation!"

I see we've already reached the part where the MRA crowd start calling WA abusive. How tediously predictable.

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madeyemoodysmum · 24/06/2018 15:45

Place marking to read later.

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SilverySurfer · 24/06/2018 15:45

From the very short amount I've watched, the women seem as manky as the men. Everyone chose to be there, knows why they are there, what is expected of them, so why just talk about the behaviour of the men?

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MyRelationshipIsWeird · 24/06/2018 15:53

Not sure what your definition of manky behaviour is! But the problem people have is with the age old issue of a man trying to paint a woman as crazy because she has called him out on his bad behaviour.

We see it time and again on here when a poster has been called mental by her partner for having an emotional reaction to his bad behaviour. Time and time again they try to turn it around, confusing cause and effect, blamin her bad moods for his going off and having an affair etc Basically trying to make her question her own memory of events to make himself look better. Many of us have lived this and so we recognise it.

It has a name - gaslighting - and it needs to be called out so that people can see it for what it is.

Whether or not this makes that particular man abusive is debatable. But that behaviour has rightly been pointed out to be a red flag.

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Findingmywayeveryday · 24/06/2018 16:03

Do people read any of the other posts? People who saw it for themselves and felt uncomfortable with it have no issue over the fact it’s a game show where you swap partners.

The issue is that during at least one conversation shown he used some unpleasant manipulative techniques to get rid of Rosie, belittle her and put her down to shift all the blame for his choices onto Rosie. If he, like many other love islanders said ‘look I fancy X more and am going to crack on with her’ then Rosie would have been upset but Adam would not be a part of this topic at all. It’s his own fault and that of ITV.

We do not get to choose our children’s role models however hard we try so all we can do is guide them. WA singled out Adam because it was something worth singling out. There hasn’t been any similar behaviour from the other contestants because they seem to treat each other kindly. If Adam sued WA then I would be more disgusted with him taking money that could go towards helping vulnerable women.

He is a powerful dominating man who not only has very good looks and probably quite successful in business, does not give him the right to play with women’s emotions and discard them. Don’t think all of this will hurt him too much, he doesn’t appear to have much of a sensitive ego just a large one. He will still attract women and make money. But if highlighting this behaviour helps young people recognise bad behaviour then it’s a good thing. All he has to do is say sorry and I am sure he will use the bad publicity in a lucrative way anyway

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Bluntness100 · 24/06/2018 16:10

For goodness sake with the mra crap. We all watched it and there was fault on both sides

And just because you say a woman was also at fault doesn't make you a MRA and quite frankly, Rosie was behaving appallingly. If any bloke I'd been seeing for ten days behaved as she did, I'd have been thinking crazy too.

There was fault on both sides and women don't get to act like overly dramatic divas and we all have to pretend it didn't happen or it's ok because she female.

Utter bullshit.

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