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MumsnetGuestPosts · 23/09/2015 10:01

I watched my 15-year-old daughter walk into a classroom for the first time this month. While most other parents dropped off their four-year-olds for day one of school, I waved off the daughter I had, until now, been educating at home.

My daughter had made her own decision, and for her own reasons she put on a uniform and joined our local school in year 11. I, meanwhile, will continue to home educate my 12-year-old and five-year-old. My three-year-old won't be going to preschool.

And so, while many parents are sharing pictures and anecdotes of their child's first month at school at the moment, a growing number aren't. We are choosing, instead, to home-school.

In my view, the traditional school system is effectively a sausage factory. No matter how much is said about individualised or child-led systems, the nature of the beast is that it's mass processing. I wanted my children to have time to be children, and time to be themselves. Individuals.

The rise in this movement is perhaps driven in part by changes to the education system, but also, I suspect, because it is now so easy to network. There are national and local Facebook groups, and depending on where you are, lots of groups meeting up.

Home education is easiest with younger children - there's lots of outside play, lots of art, craft, and stories. There are so many resources now that primary age education is very achievable either following a structured school-at-home model, or completely following your child's interests or, as is most likely, doing something in between. That's my approach with my younger ones - the five-year-old is very interested in art and nature, and I've picked up great nature resources very cheaply in Lidl. We do some semi-formal activity most mornings - I'm also Montessori trained and use these resources regularly too. Afternoons are more free format.

I'm a lot more relaxed and confident with the younger two than I was first time round. There were all sorts of panics about learning to read with my eldest, as we felt it was the central skill. Now though, I know most children get there when they're ready, and that happens at varying ages. So as long as I'm making sure we're offering the chance to develop skills, I don't worry about ticking off any age related boxes.

Questions about academic issues tend to come later in the age range, and I will admit that qualifications can be the issue. There are courses that can be studied from home, and there's a thriving support network helping families find examination centers that will take private candidates. If any government was serious about helping home educators, they could make a single change to say that every area should have at least one state school that will take private candidates, Having details of the exam boards on a central website would also make life easier.

Qualifications are why my daughter has chosen to go to school. She believes it will be easier to follow courses done with her peers, and for her, I think it's the right choice. She is finding the organisational aspects of school more challenging than the academic side and she does have an uneven level of learning, being advanced in English and creatively, but not having covered all the maths she needs. But we are well placed to support her through that.

My 12-year-old, however, is determined that he won't go to school for any reason. He's already started to prepare for the maths and computing qualifications that will suit him, and in a year or so, I'll be hunting for one of those exam centers.

Home education was a philosophical choice for me and something I considered before I had children. I discovered the potential while on a teacher training course back in the 90s. Once we had children I looked into the subject further and found a wonderful network of early years home ed families, brought together by the Muddlepuddle email list as it was then - it is now the Early Years HE group on Yahoo. As well as the email list, there were local and national meetups and camps. There are now a number of national organisations too, such as the Home Education Advisory Service and Education Otherwise. Although home educators don’t have to follow the national curriculum, resources are available if they choose to.

My traditional teacher training (PGCE) is of next to no help as a home educator, as most of what you learn that way is about lesson planning and managing a classroom, although some of the incidental reading was interesting. My Montessori training and experience, however, is very useful, particularly with younger children, as it's all about practical hands on learning and seeing children as independent learners.

As for socialisation - yesterday we went to home education roller skating and soft play. Today my 12 -year-old will go to an after school hours computing club. My 15-year-old is (almost) struggling to fit school in around her other commitments - paper round, swim club, army cadets. On offer locally there are home education art sessions, forest schools, and a communal group where each family brings an activity.

Is home education for everyone? No, there's no one approach that suits every child or every family. But it's great to see a rising awareness of it and for people to know that they have choices. When it comes down to it, that's the important thing.

OP posts:
Phineyj · 23/09/2015 18:05

There is a lot of anti-sausage prejudice on this thread! I love sausages. I quite like factories too.

CoteDAzur · 23/09/2015 18:26

"Why do we push all children to achieve GCSEs at 16. Not all will be ready then, where's the recognition of that?"

Not ready... in which sense?

GCSEs are not terribly difficult subjects. When do you feel is a good time to get GCSEs?

NewLife4Me · 23/09/2015 18:31

bittapitta

All schools provide a very small range of the GCSE's on offer, they couldn't possibly give children a wide range. Then of course there is the fact they have compulsory subjects which narrows it down even more. Add to this the logistics of the time table and they don't really get much choice I'm afraid.
This is fine though, schools have to provide a one fit all system.
The problem arises when you don't have a one fit all child.

My dd is at a school now which suits her fine as it appeals to her choice of subjects. If it doesn't work out we'll take her out and H.ed again.

Saltedcaramel4 · 23/09/2015 19:22

I know a lot of children who are educated in different ways - state schools, HE, alternative education and Steiner schools. Each method has its positive and negative points. Different methods really do suit different children though. Two of mine have thrived and blossomed in wonderful state schools. The third is more suited to HE and with the fourth we are considering a Steiner approach.

I mostly hold HE in high esteem. However I've found that while it can be the making of a child, it can also be disastrous. Children are very reliant on parents for quality of experience and access to amenities.

Coastingit · 23/09/2015 20:28

You say you are Pgce qualified but then go on to say that all you learned to do was manage classrooms and plan lessons. Surely you learned how to identify stuff that your students should learn, then practised devising interesting ways of helping them to do so? Didn't you learn about differentiation, or the Every Child Matters agenda? Did you ever teach as a career?

And tbh Montessori used to be well ahead of the game in terms of helping children to become independent and curious - but standard practice in mainstream schools has now overtaken that and uses far superior methods than the often old fashioned and limited Montessori classroom.

NewLife4Me · 23/09/2015 20:34

Coasting

I too have a PGCE but no way does it make any difference to H.ed, in fact for us it was the complete opposite.
There was no teaching or planning or differentiation as there was no curriculum to apply it to.
As for devising ways for them to learn, they sort of find this for themselves and very rarely was i needed to to do this.

SirChenjin · 23/09/2015 20:53

They sort of find this for themselves

They find what, how, exactly?

KatharineClifton · 23/09/2015 21:24

I home ed my 13 year olds. Exams are the Next Big Thing, and we have no local exam centres available to us. I agree that this is a thing the government could easily remedy. Especially as the Tories support EHE.

Have to agree with previous posters, the comments about school being a factory situation is offensive. We all have our own philosophies but school does suit a lot of children more than home ed would so there is no need to compare and contrast, especially with negatives. Hopefully we are all striving to do what best suits our individual children, be it education in a school setting OR at home. I was educated in a school and don't believe myself to be a sausage Grin

bittapitta · 23/09/2015 21:31

Everyone thinks their child is a precious individual snowflake NewLife - I just think there is plenty of time for that alongside and after they have got essential qualifications under their belt.

Rainuntilseptember15 · 23/09/2015 21:33

I think it is interesting that the poster says she considered HE before having children, so I hope she does not subsequently claim that she needed to home educate as it "suited" her particular children.
It seems as if HE can work up to a point but then there is still a need for exams. Which wouldn't exist I suppose if there weren't other children in the sausage factory preparing for them.
And to the poster talking about not having "one size fits all" children - Biscuit

Ubik1 · 23/09/2015 21:41

Mine love school. They so much out of it, not least their relationships with their teachers.

jonicomelately · 23/09/2015 21:50

For a qualified teacher who has the time and the inclination, home education must seem like a really viable option. it isn't in the least bit practical for the vast majority of women though.

Coastingit · 23/09/2015 21:59

I'm a qualified teacher and a sahm. But I still send my 3yo to the maximum number of preschool hours I can. And not because I don't like her company! She benefits so much from it, she's buzzing when she gets home, her head full of all the myriad new things on offer. I'd consider myself very selfish and presumptuous to think I could offer a fraction of the experience her preschool can, with the research, experience, resources, contacts and professional experience of the staff. And the social side has seen her come on in leaps and bounds, from a shy and awkward little thing to a confident and good speaker. She focuses much better on activities and crucially, sings songs and rhymes I don't know, and uses phrases I don't, and challenges me. I'm an absolute fervent believer in educating children out with the home environment. I think the vast majority of HE parents are simply fearful about letting go of their children.

NewLife4Me · 23/09/2015 22:17

SirChengin.

They find their own strategies for learning, their own ways and preferences. Sometimes they don't know they're learning and it's good to catch them doing it Grin

An example dd covered much of Ks2 Maths, baking, singing, rapping, in the park, shopping and so on.
She enjoys reading all manner of material.
I could go on but it would bore you Grin For us it was a positive experience and none of us regret it for a minute.

She's at school now and is learning some complicated advanced jazz structures by singing the rules to the notes. Grin

Alfieisnoisy · 23/09/2015 22:26

Cote, I ws referring mainly to children with SEN crammed into a system which does not cope with their needs. Children like my DS who struggles academically and in all probability won't be ready for lots of GCSEs at 16.
That isn't to say he will never do them but by forcing him through a system which does nt meet his needs his mental and emotional health suffers when he already copes with so much. Thankfully he is now in a special school which recognizes that some children take longer.

Marmitelover55 · 23/09/2015 22:33

I also find the OP's comments offensive. I'm not sure how a parent, even with a pgce can offer the breadth and depth of knowledge that specialist secondary teachers can. My DD is thriving in a great state school and relishes the opportunities she has at school including chamber orchestra, photography, art and drama.

noblegiraffe · 23/09/2015 22:49

I'm a secondary maths teacher and I know that I can bring more to the kids I teach than a well-meaning amateur.

NewLife4Me · 23/09/2015 22:51

I'm not sure how a parent, even with a pgce can offer the breadth and depth of knowledge that specialist secondary teachers can

What makes you think that one parent wants or does provide all this knowledge?
Do your children only have one teacher to teach everything? Is there only one member of staff facilitating learning?
Why are you so offended?

Marmitelover55 · 23/09/2015 23:11

I find it offensive because the OP is belittling the children of most of the population in the UK in a very smug way.

So who does provide all of this knowledge? I find it very hard to believe that most parents could teach maths as well as a fully trained and experienced maths teacher could, for example.

Kampeki · 23/09/2015 23:15

I have no issue with other people choosing to HE, if they choose to do so, although I do think there should be more accountability.

However, the smug, self-congratulatory tone of the OP is very offputting. To compare schools to sausage factories is just silly.

NewLife4Me · 23/09/2015 23:20

marmite

unfortunately none of my older children experienced the type of teacher you speak of.
I know they exist, but there are plenty of schools and indeed areas where they don't.
I'm not saying they aren't good teachers, they are.
Unfortunately they are stuck with a system I and many others don't like.
In the schools/college I worked in for a brief time there were very few if no specialist teachers. Some people live in deprived areas and are lucky if the whole of their county has an orchestra, no schools do here.
Besides which H.educators don't necessarily teach their dc. To them it's like comparing apples and pears.
I'm sorry if I am not making myself clear. The OP is just stating her opinion, how she sees it.
Anybody can have a differing opinion to hers, I don't see what's so offensive.

Rainuntilseptember15 · 23/09/2015 23:31

If you honestly don't see how an opinion can be offensive, maybe you should go back to school!
Wink

Kampeki · 23/09/2015 23:42

Anybody can have a differing opinion to hers, I don't see what's so offensive.

You don't know what is offensive about suggesting that schooled children have no individuality? That they are like mass-processed sausages, no less?

HumphreyCobblers · 24/09/2015 06:26

"They find their own strategies for learning, their own ways and preferences. Sometimes they don't know they're learning and it's good to catch them doing it grin"

See, I agree with this. I see this all the time with my own children. Children who are schooled in the traditional sense get to do this, in school situations and at home. Of course learning does not stop at the school gates.

SirChenjin · 24/09/2015 06:41

Absolutely agree Humphrey.

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