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Guest post from Louise Mensch: "Tony Benn represented something truly valuable in the world"

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MumsnetGuestPosts · 14/03/2014 17:21

I was so sad to hear - via Mumsnet in fact - of the death of Tony Benn, a man I never actually met. I did once tell his son Hillary, a Labour MP, how much I admired his father - but that was a close as I got.

Tony Benn represented something truly valuable in the world. He acted on what he believed. For his love of socialism, he was prepared to walk away from a peerage, and even from the nobility of his family name. No longer Viscount Stansgate, he wouldn't even allow people to call him Anthony Wedgewood-Benn - he was to be "Tony Benn". And so he remained, until he died.

There was that rumpled, brilliant look about the man that is so endearing to our clever, messy nation. Like JRR Tolkien, whom he resembled, he loved to smoke a pipe; a particularly English vice. He drank tea, and was well-read. He seems never to have regretted walking away from "my Lord" and the bowing and scraping of the era.

Benn also possessed, as well as conviction, a great generosity of spirit. His respect and affection for Margaret Thatcher showed him to be a man who understood that political opposition does not have to, and should not, equal enmity (more Labour MPs wrote me kind notes after I resigned my seat than Conservative ones, by the way). Benn said of Thatcher "she was a signpost, not a weathervane". That was why he respected her; and it is why I respected him.

He had convictions; he lived those convictions. He was true to himself, bright, and kind. He was raised by a feminist mother, and it showed, in the best possible way. Labourlist drew my attention to his generous piece on Thatcher which told this story:

"I remember her at the funeral of MP Eric Heffer. I was asked to make a speech and as I was waiting, there was someone behind me coughing. It was Mrs Thatcher, and at the end I thanked her for coming and she burst into tears. She had come out of respect for someone whose opinions she disagreed with."

I believe that there are a great many MPs and commentators who did not share any of Benn's beliefs, but who realise today that in him, we have lost a national treasure; a genuine servant of the people, who did not need to be a nobleman, to be a noble man. May many of us involved in politics on all sides learn from his lessons of authenticity, humility, generosity, and kindness.

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BIWI · 15/03/2014 11:30

And you have posted the link on your FB page.

Do you actually ever bother to read what your own community thinks about things?

Mintyy · 15/03/2014 11:34

Blush Blush Blush

BaileyWhite · 15/03/2014 11:34

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sinvega · 15/03/2014 11:34

I only really know Mumsnet from the occasional comment/forum thread a friend on here links to. I've registered after reading this just to say that seeing you all reject this crass and inadequate "tribute" from someone who has no place to comment on the great Tony Benn's death has warmed my heart. Without making it a hate campaign you've made it clear that it's unwelcome, not by hounding Mensch but by loving and respecting Benn.

While it sounds like there are some concerns with the official Mumsnet leadership, you people are the real Mumsnet to us outsiders. And you're bloody great.

I wish I had a Tony Benn anecdote. All I know is that just hearing him speak on tv impressed me greatly, not only because of his politics but because just about everything he ever said or did showed that he was that rarest of things, a genuinely good person. We've lost a great politician, but the real loss is that sincerity, love and kindness for everyone. The world needs more like him, whatever work they choose to do.

Viviennemary · 15/03/2014 11:35

Maybe it would be better that this thread is deleted and if it's not too late approach somebody else to write a piece. Because I simply can't see the point of this.

BaileyWhite · 15/03/2014 11:36

He comforted me after my Grandfather died when i met him at a meeting and confided in him- he understood loss of course.

BIWI · 15/03/2014 11:39

I heard him described as a 'maverick' today. And that made me really sad. A man who stuck to his principles and was clear about his values and what he felt was important should not be described as such.

GobbySadcase · 15/03/2014 11:46

Why do you think they care about 'the community' BIWI?

It's all about hits and advertising revenue nowadays.

Tweasels · 15/03/2014 12:01

There's tons of this bullshit around. Everyone seems to be trying to reinvent Tony Benn as some kind of "cheeky chappy national treasure" rather than the hugely influential political leader that he was.

He drinks tea?? FFS.

Justine herself has got more political sway than Louise fucking Mensch. If you were struggling to get an influential female voice on the matter you should have just asked her.

KateMumsnet · 15/03/2014 12:21

Hello again

Thanks for the suggestions of others you'd like to hear from - we'll send a few emails now and with luck one of them will be able to help out. Apols again for missing the mark this time.

Biwi as far as I know, this thread was posted on Facebook before there were many comments - we definitely wouldn't have done so once it became clear that there were strong feelings on this. We also posted this thread on FB yesterday morning when the sad news first came through.

hobnobsaremyfavourite · 15/03/2014 12:27

MNHQ did you really think this was a good idea?
Really????

DrankSangriaInThePark · 15/03/2014 12:51

It all just seems so cynical on your part HQ, and it's happening all the time.

Something newsworthy happens, and despite the fact that an eloquent (or otherwise sometimes) thread gets started by Mumsnetters, within the hour there is some garbled, badly written "guest" bigging themselves up expressing their (generally irrelevant, and almost always unwanted) opinion on the matter.

What is actually wrong with just letting Mners make the threads?

I don't think this one should be deleted though. That lets you off the hook far too easily.

A real cynic might think that asking a not-exactly-popular amongst the MN general public to comment might generate a bunfight, and, maybe a journo getting hold of it.....and then lots of lovely penis-beaker traffic......but I'm not that cynical just yet.......

YoniMatopoeia · 15/03/2014 12:52

Oh dear. This isn't good is it?

gertiegusset · 15/03/2014 12:57

There has been barely one supportive post Kate, not even when the thread started, why don't you take it down?
Aren't you embarrassed?

BIWI · 15/03/2014 13:08

You could, perhaps, delete the FB post? Along with the tweet that also links to this thread?

Mintyy · 15/03/2014 13:24

I don't think this thread should be deleted. There are some good points made on here from Mumsnetters about what they want from this site.

gertiegusset · 15/03/2014 13:25

Sorry, I did mean the FB post, not this thread.

teaandthorazine · 15/03/2014 13:46

Apols?

Fuck me, HQ. You really couldn't give a monkey's what we think, could you?

MaudeLynn · 15/03/2014 13:53

but why did you think any Mnetters would appreciate a blog post from Mensch about anything?

Why?

Mycatistoosexy · 15/03/2014 13:53

What an insult.

A poorly written piece which is mostly about Margaret Thatcher! This is the late Tony Benn. Have more respect.

You should be more than just apologetic MN.

Badvoc · 15/03/2014 13:56

Just take it down Ffs!

Mycatistoosexy · 15/03/2014 14:05

I agree. This should be removed

Northernlurker · 15/03/2014 14:07

How about taking down Mensch and leaving our posts?

Flibbertyjibbet · 15/03/2014 14:08

Please take it down.

Don't get anyone else to do the piece instead, they'll just be offended that they were your 2nd choice after LM.

BIWI · 15/03/2014 14:15

Thank God for small mercies though - it could have been Nadine Dorries ...

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