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Guest post from Louise Mensch: "Tony Benn represented something truly valuable in the world"

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MumsnetGuestPosts · 14/03/2014 17:21

I was so sad to hear - via Mumsnet in fact - of the death of Tony Benn, a man I never actually met. I did once tell his son Hillary, a Labour MP, how much I admired his father - but that was a close as I got.

Tony Benn represented something truly valuable in the world. He acted on what he believed. For his love of socialism, he was prepared to walk away from a peerage, and even from the nobility of his family name. No longer Viscount Stansgate, he wouldn't even allow people to call him Anthony Wedgewood-Benn - he was to be "Tony Benn". And so he remained, until he died.

There was that rumpled, brilliant look about the man that is so endearing to our clever, messy nation. Like JRR Tolkien, whom he resembled, he loved to smoke a pipe; a particularly English vice. He drank tea, and was well-read. He seems never to have regretted walking away from "my Lord" and the bowing and scraping of the era.

Benn also possessed, as well as conviction, a great generosity of spirit. His respect and affection for Margaret Thatcher showed him to be a man who understood that political opposition does not have to, and should not, equal enmity (more Labour MPs wrote me kind notes after I resigned my seat than Conservative ones, by the way). Benn said of Thatcher "she was a signpost, not a weathervane". That was why he respected her; and it is why I respected him.

He had convictions; he lived those convictions. He was true to himself, bright, and kind. He was raised by a feminist mother, and it showed, in the best possible way. Labourlist drew my attention to his generous piece on Thatcher which told this story:

"I remember her at the funeral of MP Eric Heffer. I was asked to make a speech and as I was waiting, there was someone behind me coughing. It was Mrs Thatcher, and at the end I thanked her for coming and she burst into tears. She had come out of respect for someone whose opinions she disagreed with."

I believe that there are a great many MPs and commentators who did not share any of Benn's beliefs, but who realise today that in him, we have lost a national treasure; a genuine servant of the people, who did not need to be a nobleman, to be a noble man. May many of us involved in politics on all sides learn from his lessons of authenticity, humility, generosity, and kindness.

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MaudeLynn · 15/03/2014 07:49

Now come on everyone, be fair, MNHQ only got in touch with Mensch because Samantha Brick was too upset to comment.

Agree with everything said on this thread. How dare Mensch patronise Tony Benn by calling him a "national treasure".

WandaDoff · 15/03/2014 08:01
Shock
TheLightPassenger · 15/03/2014 08:12

This really wasn't well thought out, was it Hmm.

RonaldMcDonald · 15/03/2014 08:15

Was Katie Hopkins busy?

gertiegusset · 15/03/2014 08:33

The crassest idea for a guest talk I can possibly think of.

gertiegusset · 15/03/2014 08:38

I just read that MNHQ approached Louise Mensch, know your audience also springs to mind.
Of all the people you could have asked...

EauRouge · 15/03/2014 08:40

FFS. Could you not have found a better blog post to share? I'm sure there are many bloggers that actually had something to say about Tony Benn. I wish I could un-read that piece of badly-written drivel.

BaileyWhite · 15/03/2014 08:44

I'd rather read Metallica's opinion than LM's to be honest Smile.

DrankSangriaInThePark · 15/03/2014 08:44

Never has my old adage been more true....just because everyone can write, doesn't mean everyone should.

teaandthorazine · 15/03/2014 08:56

Well, this certainly did 'add something to the mix' didn't it, HQ?

It's crystallised something that's been bugging me about MN for a while. I'm not very articulate and can't put my finger on it exactly (especially not at the time in the morning!) But what seems a growing tendency on MN to rely on sleb bloggers and rentagobs for comment on stuff that actually matters...I don't know, it's just depressing. I don't give a flying fuck what Mensch, Brick, Hopkins et al think about anything. (I'm not even sure I'm that interested in Clegg, tbh.)

This piece shows such an appalling lack of judgement and respect. It's made me seriously question what's going on at MN - why you would imagine in your wildest dreams this is appropriate. Shoddy, crappy, lightweight. I think I'm done with this place, finally.

BaileyWhite · 15/03/2014 08:59

On a website where the most memorable moments are created from the comments of millions of anonymous women (and men) the parade of celeb o gobs rankles.

We don't need them. HQ clearly does. What to do?

gertiegusset · 15/03/2014 09:01

It's not just you tea, MNHQ have lost their way.
The whole site has changed and not for the better.

gertiegusset · 15/03/2014 09:04

It certainly looks like HQ were not big fans of Tony Benn doesn't it.
Or maybe Ms Mensch was the best they could manage.

hobnobsaremyfavourite · 15/03/2014 09:06

This thread and the thinking behind it sums up where MNHQ are taking mumsnet these days.
Shameful and vacuuous and aimed at the lowest common denominator to get hits on the sight.
How could anyone think that woman was the worthiest to comment??
FFS

hobnobsaremyfavourite · 15/03/2014 09:08

oh an excellent summary tea.

DrankSangriaInThePark · 15/03/2014 09:13

You know what? I am willing to bet that no matter how busy they were, running the country and all, this man was so important, and so universally respected, that even David Cameron would have taken 5 minutes to Dictaphone a paragraph or two over. John Major?

I rarely read the guest posts/blogs because invariably they are a spur of the moment jumping on a news item bandwagon by someone thirsty for their 15 minutes.

There needed to be no "guest" talking about Tony Benn. The threads in Chat and AIBU were enough. Ordinary Mumsnetters, writing beautifully at times, about someone who mattered.

Please tell me the rent-a-gobs don't get paid?

hobnobsaremyfavourite · 15/03/2014 09:18

So rent a gobs, penisbeaker and trolls here there and everywhere.
This place becomes less appealing by the day.

BIWI · 15/03/2014 09:51

Another Shock MNetter. And also pretty Angry

You, Mumsnet, have been developing relationships with various current and senior politicians for years. Your 10th birthday party was attended by Ed Miliband, Gordon Brown gave a speech, followed by Sarah Brown.

But you ask Louise Mensch to comment? On a man with the status and intellect and integrity so well-displayed by Tony Benn?

You are seriously, seriously, seriously underestimating the people who belong to this community.

BIWI · 15/03/2014 09:52

Apologies for the unnecessary hyphen.

DrankSangriaInThePark · 15/03/2014 09:58

The Milibands IIRC bought Tony Benn's old house. Or lived next door. Ed did work experience with Tony Benn I think? If you didn't want a current politician why not David?

So many people who would just do it better.

sloth357 · 15/03/2014 10:43

Get a grip, folks. You seem to be upset with the shallowness of Louise's post. On the basis of this thread - Mrs Pot, may I introduce you to Mrs Kettle...

BIWI · 15/03/2014 10:45

Why do you think this thread is shallow?

usualsuspectnobollocks · 15/03/2014 11:15

Is that you, Louise?

SheherazadeSchadenfreude · 15/03/2014 11:23

Oh I'm all for a shallow and trite post. But this blog "he liked tea and was a national treasure" was not the place for it.

As BIWI said, they could have got anyone of stature to do it, not some little ex Tory fluffball who had never met the man.

glastocat · 15/03/2014 11:29

Fuck me. Could you have got anyone less suitable than bloody Louise Mensch! Talk about polar opposites, not just politically but in honesty, integrity, honesty, charm, I could go on.

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