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Guest post from Louise Mensch: "Tony Benn represented something truly valuable in the world"

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MumsnetGuestPosts · 14/03/2014 17:21

I was so sad to hear - via Mumsnet in fact - of the death of Tony Benn, a man I never actually met. I did once tell his son Hillary, a Labour MP, how much I admired his father - but that was a close as I got.

Tony Benn represented something truly valuable in the world. He acted on what he believed. For his love of socialism, he was prepared to walk away from a peerage, and even from the nobility of his family name. No longer Viscount Stansgate, he wouldn't even allow people to call him Anthony Wedgewood-Benn - he was to be "Tony Benn". And so he remained, until he died.

There was that rumpled, brilliant look about the man that is so endearing to our clever, messy nation. Like JRR Tolkien, whom he resembled, he loved to smoke a pipe; a particularly English vice. He drank tea, and was well-read. He seems never to have regretted walking away from "my Lord" and the bowing and scraping of the era.

Benn also possessed, as well as conviction, a great generosity of spirit. His respect and affection for Margaret Thatcher showed him to be a man who understood that political opposition does not have to, and should not, equal enmity (more Labour MPs wrote me kind notes after I resigned my seat than Conservative ones, by the way). Benn said of Thatcher "she was a signpost, not a weathervane". That was why he respected her; and it is why I respected him.

He had convictions; he lived those convictions. He was true to himself, bright, and kind. He was raised by a feminist mother, and it showed, in the best possible way. Labourlist drew my attention to his generous piece on Thatcher which told this story:

"I remember her at the funeral of MP Eric Heffer. I was asked to make a speech and as I was waiting, there was someone behind me coughing. It was Mrs Thatcher, and at the end I thanked her for coming and she burst into tears. She had come out of respect for someone whose opinions she disagreed with."

I believe that there are a great many MPs and commentators who did not share any of Benn's beliefs, but who realise today that in him, we have lost a national treasure; a genuine servant of the people, who did not need to be a nobleman, to be a noble man. May many of us involved in politics on all sides learn from his lessons of authenticity, humility, generosity, and kindness.

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ChaChaDigregorio · 14/03/2014 22:25

Wikipedia are onto their lawyers for plagiarism.

I'd have expected better from all parties involved to be quite honest.

tribpot · 14/03/2014 22:32

The tributes to Benn (including this one) have focused on the fact that he was a man of enormous principle, and referred to the fact that his passionate, articulate, life-long adherence to his beliefs are not the norm among today's politicians. (Which is quite true). So why, even out of today's plastic, media-driven political minnows, would you pick Louise Mensch for this task? If you needed a media-friendly politico-mum (although god knows why you would), why not Sarah Brown?

This smacks of a desire for page hits above content - exactly the kind of superficial bollocks that Tony Benn was not about.

WaxyDaisy · 14/03/2014 22:37

Why the heck would you seek an obituary from someone who didn't know him? There are plenty of well respected politicians of different parties who did know him who you could have approached.

This is just embarrassing.

tribpot · 14/03/2014 22:37

Why not, for example, this lovely tribute by someone who, y'know, knew him.

teaandthorazine · 14/03/2014 22:38

I've never suggested this about any thread, but I actually think MN would be better off pulling this. It's pathetic, trite and embarrassing.

Theincidental · 14/03/2014 22:41

How crass. What an insult.

If you wanted with gravitas to honour one of the most important political figures of our lifetime, why ask such a lightweight careerist as mensch. She epitomises everything Benn railed against.

I couldn't be more disappointed.

LRDtheFeministDragon · 14/03/2014 22:46

Thanks for posting that, trib, it was good to read.

RIP.

Can I share a story about him I read today? It made me smile, anyway. Apparently he was at a student event, speaking, and misheard a question asking about the future of the NHS. He was too nice (and, dare I suggest, broad-minded) to see anything odd in students asking his opinion on 'the future of gay sex,' so spent a good few minutes trying politely to string together an answer to what he believed he'd been asked. I loved that.

Maybe we could share the good things, would that be daft? Because otherwise this thread leaves such a bad taste in my mouth.

Hawkshaw · 14/03/2014 22:49

LRD, that made me smile. Thanks.

Northernlurker · 14/03/2014 23:00

Sarah Brown would have been good. Cherie Blair too - I seem to remember from the diaries that she was very warm to him when Caroline died. I would be interested to read Yvette Cooper's assessment of him too. Margaret Beckett as well - and she has been widely quoted with an interesting, honest and fair assessment of a man she actually, you know, KNEW.

The perfect person for a post eventually though would be Melissa Benn.

elkiedee · 14/03/2014 23:08

WTF?

zoemaguire · 14/03/2014 23:08

What vacuous nonsense. It dishonours his legacy. He wasn't a cuddly tea-drinking teddy bear, he put forward a seriously threatening alternative to the status quo. This kind of patronising crap seeks to sanitise and disarm that legacy, and I'm dismayed at mumsnet thinking this was even remotely appropriate. No, scratch that, I'm revolted.

LRDtheFeministDragon · 14/03/2014 23:09

Well said, zoe.

zoemaguire · 14/03/2014 23:14

And seriously, she never even met him, not once! Fine, get a Tory to write an obit, if you must (though why?!), but find one who has some political and intellectual weight, and who actually knew the man. This is just a joke.

CrotchMaven · 14/03/2014 23:16

Heh, heh. Mnhq's nonsense politics laid bare again. Northlondonitis pervades.

You have to stand for something, sometime, you know? Work it out, people. Even if you want to be neutral, at least give a voice who have something to say.

Blondieminx · 14/03/2014 23:16

Just wanted to add my voice to those querying why on earth Ms Mensch has been given this blogspot?! It's just beyond cringey Sad

Shirley Williams or Theresa May would have been better choices (experienced politicians who have served in the commons with TB).

Please don't have Mensch back again. I don't think she ever brings anything fresh to the discussion although she does seem to be good at getting people's backs up...

CrotchMaven · 14/03/2014 23:24

You know the campaigning you laud through your PR? If you invested half of the social or political capital Benn invested, you wouldn't come close.

To have Mensch commentating is lightweight and puts you in the ridiculous category. Could you not get someone who had met him, even if they weren't a woman?

usualsuspectnobollocks · 14/03/2014 23:52

Is this MN, now?

What a bloody farce.

PansBigChainring · 15/03/2014 02:02

It was really poor judgement from MNHQ (what were you thinking?), but hopefully TB's death will still warrant another blog/offering from someone who knew him some time soon.

Piscivorus · 15/03/2014 02:06

Agree with Sarah Brown or Cherie Blair. Poor man deserved better than this

DrankSangriaInThePark · 15/03/2014 06:45

The anecdotes on this, and other threads are lovely to read.

Re-reading the OP, I wonder how long it took to actually put together? Given that it was posted last night and the woman is in NY and all......Seriously, I write better than that. Most of us do.

If you were going for the non-hagiography approach, ask Ann Widdecomb. I disagree with every word that comes out of her mouth and find her politics and points of view on, well, everything really, utterly loathsome, but no-one can argue that she did not also belong to that sadly disappearing group of conviction (not careerist) politicians who stood by their principles to the end.

And I imagine she would provide a thoughtful, respectful, well-written and interesting piece.

(Not that I necessarily think we need one, mind, I think the lovely anecdotes coming from people should be passed onto the family. It is happening on my FB as well, my friend mentioned how she once bumped into Tony Benn and Bruce Kent together muttering darkly about something on a London railway station. What a pair! Smile)

Badvoc · 15/03/2014 07:13

Please, please tell me you didn't pay her for that drivel?
Ffs.
Agree with other posters, this thread should be pulled.

DrankSangriaInThePark · 15/03/2014 07:19

Or left as an example of what not to do.

Trib- thanks for that link, lovely piece. I have shared on my FB. And appear to be weeping (again)

Badvoc · 15/03/2014 07:21

Honestly mnhq, what's next?
Colleen Nolan discussing the pistrorius trial?
Am beyond pissed off with this.

RonaldMcDonald · 15/03/2014 07:41

I love Mumsnet

This however, is very, very poorly thought through.

Please remove this utterly turgid tripe piece of nothing once and replace it with something worthy and fitting

I am hugely disappointed with Mumsnet over this lack of judgement

MaudeLynn · 15/03/2014 07:48

Now come on everyone, be fair, MNHQ only got in touch with Mensch because Samantha Brick was too upset to comment.

Agree with everything said on this thread. How dare Mensch patronise Tony Benn by calling him a "national treasure".

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