Do you ever wonder what it's like to have a normal child?

[RoboJesus]

I always imagined having a normal child and I've been thinking a lot about it lately. Having a gifted child definitely changes things. Obviously I love my child perfectly as they are though. Does anyone get what I mean?

I had an IQ of 140 at 10.

I’m a mature uni student atm, I was a teen mum and have never earned a great deal or been very remarkable.

Don’t get ahead of yourself.

OP, I commented on your last thread and cast no aspersions as the the profoundly gifted nature of your child.

I do think you need help though, just not in the way you assume you do.

By which I mean you are clearly seeing your child as seperate from other children, as profoundly different which will be much more damaging to their development than any special cognitive abilities they may possess.

Smug

I work with children and don't think there is such a thing as a 'normal' child.

They are all deeply deeply weird in their own way

Quartz: whatever IQ test gave you that score?
The ones commonly used in the UK don't really go above 145, with a standard deviation of 15. Some of the "vanity" tests use a standard deviation of 25.

They used to back in the day it was a standard Mensa one

I've never seen any 'prejudice towards gifted children' on MN. Only annoyed reactions to parents who start smug or insensitive threads about their gifted children.

This ^ what Kingkiller says.

Perhaps because this is in pint, rather than face-to-face with the intonation and physical cues a spoken conversation involves, the "oh I wonder what it's like to have a child who isn't amazing at everything" comes across as smug and patronising.

Even if it isn't meant to.

Your child is probably just like all ours here, op! Hope that helps

Define normal.

What if being gifted and talented is the standard in your family and therefore 'normal'?

IMO the people who bang on about their children being 'gifted' are usually in fact mediocre at best. The people who genuinely are talented know they are and don't require external validation.

PP asking about America. Our DD is classed as G&T. They have a test for all DC at the end of first grade (most of the kids are 7) and they need to be in the top 10% ability wise to qualify for the G&T program. Some years have no DC in the G&T program. DDs year is seen as exceptional because there are 9 DC who tested into the program.

It's caused a lot of problems having a firm boundary and some parents moved their DC to one of the private schools, which ironically are great for average kids but sell to parents that their DC are 'gifted'.

As parents we have opted to not enroll DD into the G&T program because it's not an inclusion program. Taking her out of class for an hour a week to work on a special project isn't to her benefit. She needs a more accelerated program that meets her needs.

So, G&T has its place but I think very few districts here in the US do a good job of delivering effective programs. There has been a huge push to remove leveling and it's been extremely damaging to G&T kids who need a different approach to the kids at the other end of the spectrum.

So much the same as here, Supermum? I don’t know why Iwasjustabouttosaythat is trying to convince me I can’t understand what gifted means because the US have a different version and op’s child might have that one!

I wonder how many 'gifted' children wish they'd had 'normal' parents.

Who cares OP? Why would you chase testing? Let your very young child enjoy their childhood. Fucking weird.

Iamagreyhound, me too. People here clearly knows the difference between top 10% of the class gifted as in old school terms, and real outliers.

Does anybody have a link for the other thread? I feel ill and could do with being entertained

TIA

Andhow, the other thread OP mentioned is a proper thread, that
Op of that thread wanting advice from other people about her dc.
If you want other threads started by same OP, just AS, or click few of the recent thread on here, you will find them.

Quartz
In that case your IQ is probably about 145 in the more commonly used non- mensa tests (eg wisc, bas) which have a standard deviation of 15. 145 is therefore 3 standard deviations above the average of 100. Mensa certainly used to use tests with standard deviation of 25 which was very misleading as "their" score of 150 would be a score of 130 on the more standard assessments. Of course this was, I assume, part of their selling point. So an IQ of 175 would be equivalent to an IQ of 145 on a typical assessment, but of course it sounds much more impressive.

IQ tests are highly subjective!

Greenglassteacup well done, I think you've identified why people feel hostile to posters like this. I agree.

In what way gifted? do you mean how it would be easier for you to deal with op? Is it currently too time consuming/difficult!!!!

*OP you will be better off on an American site. For some reason the British tend to be very anti achievement.

^This.

The hatred and dislike of it on this board - the gifted and talented board - is exactly what is like in real life.

^And this. It can be really hard for very smart adults. It’s not a huge stretch to imagine it’s even harder for children.*

Its just so sad. It seems part of the problem is people don't see their own prejudices. I wrote a simple, non provoking post void of any educational or advancement talk on a board specifically for gifted kids but still people can't wait to attack.

@Baubletrouble43 my child never "made marks" at nursery so got referred. They did the draw a person test. My child did a rather detailed drawing and labeled it. Turns out they were asking them to scribble at nursery and my child didn't see the point in that especially as they only had crayons. Anyway they said they could do a full scale test on my child and they thought it would be worth it so they did.

my child didn't see the point in that especially as they only had crayons.

I don't understand this part.

The person who have most prejudice is you, OP. Look at some of the past posts. There are not much hatred and dislike like you say on this board, from most of the posters. People have no reason to, they have highly able children themselves. We are not attacking you. We just don't get what you are expecting from this board.

I also don't understand the crayon comment.