SHiney cult is here to stay, till this weight has gone away...

[DidEinsteinsMum]

OK folks you know the drill, and if you dont pay attention:

We are a bunch of lovely ladies all shapes and size, here for chat, and moral support.

Some of it is healthy eating chat. WW, LL, food focus, south beach. Whatever ever the route, whatever the goal its all here.

Most of the time its just moral support and general chat... So dive in, post as much as you are able and have some fun...

I watched bits and pieces of the Gypsy wedding thing, was heartbroken for the girl at the end.

DH is safely despatched to the footy, boys are in bed, G&T is served, am going to lounge and watch the Eastenders live thing, don't really watch Eastenders (though did have a crush on Archie, should I be ing at that?)......

Had a rather lovely day, am exhausted now though.

So....Dolly's on so loud I can feel it in the floor boards and I am in my jim jams bouncing on my spacehopper!

Mits - I love Dolly. Was a very good programme on bbc2 about her recently - she came across so well.

Trills - I also love One born every mintute. But I'm a 3 c-section girl so find the whole natural childbirth thing fascinating.

Oh dear, poor BIL has just had a very painful op to have internal piles removed - sister says he's in agony.

Tracey, pity Fanny couldn't have engineered an op like that for her devil BIL

Oh and my births weren't C/S but were not very natural, ventouse both times. I would love to have my Mom's experiences, just good old fashioned push em outs .
My friend has had 3 C/S and for ages felt like a failure, which is daft (but I can relate) I think motherhood begins when you have that baby in your arms, regardless of how baby gets into the world.

I am at the thought of you spacehopping around to Dolly, Mitts, that is fab!

Mits what a cracking mental image that it

Vinny - how did that happen? Did you fling it or did it just well.....er.....fling itself??

I've been gripped to One Born Every Minute Although last week got me a bit upset as it brought DSs birth back & I ended up crying the sap that I am Don't think much to that Nancy on the desk though!

Ooh Nancy is mean.

Thought that all the midwifes so far have been lovely though.

at Lizzy's revenge for Fanny's brother in law...is that without anaesthetic Lizzy?

I think Dolly does loads for deprived DC's as well. She will sit well next to timberland, Dr Dre and Mumford and Sons on my playlists.

Ah lurves music.

I had two 'umm...natural' childbirths. I relish the memories and can't imagine how the alternatives feel, but to be honest, I think in a lot of cases, the moment you hold that tiny wee thing, all else fades by comparison.
I love telling DC's about when they were born, especially when they are stressed. I had DD at home very much on my terms and that was very special.

natural child birth is not fascinating it fucking hurts. speaks from experiance of cut with 2nd degree tear, taking an hour to stitch when the local ansethetic had worn off. And all because theature didnt open for another 10 mins oh and a midwife who later got the sack for incompetance .

realises that probably tmi and scuttles away again a bit

Without even a paracetamol, Mitts

I now love watching births, but couldn't pre-DC, when I was pg I couldn't read the last chapter of the book with the birth bit in. I just found childbirth so very different to what I had expected and it shocked me, I have very wide hips, thought they'd just slip out

Oh a lovely home birth would have been my dream but I'm just not good at giving birth. I blame DH - he's 6ft4 and I'm 5ft - my giant headed babies just wouldn't come out the natural way.

But I found my c-sections fine although felt very guilty as ds2 was very poorly with breathing problems when he was born so spent a week in NICU and I do feel that was probably my fault for not having him naturally.

Dolly - employs loads of her family and friends at dollywood. She also spoke about her sadness at never having children.

I think this is lovely and not often known about her..

DH and I watched most of that Dolly Parton documentary thingy too. Made me want to watch 9 to 5 again!

Now DH has us watching the live Eastenders thing, even though we don't follow it (he's barely seen it since he was a kid and I've never watched). I think he just wants to see if someone messes up.

I thought I was better last night, but woke up this morning feeling crap. Have eaten way too much today again, not looking forward to Monday weigh in.

Happy birthday Fanny!

Tracey, I bet your DS2 would have been in worse trouble if you'd have tried for natural childbirth.

At 5ft with a 6ft 4" DH, blimey Tracey, I would have had an elective for the 1st birth!

I'm 5ft 9" and I couldn't do it naturally (and felt v guilty because DS1 had to be resussed and was in distress).
I think guilt is just part and parcel of being a mother, it is an every day occurence for me, and I am Catholic, so do guilt very well

So who killed archie then? I never watch eastenders but am intrigued to know.

I still haven't caught on to the knack of keeping up here.

I'm like MW and have had lovely births at home, (after awful hospitalised pregnancies), which I really enjoyed.

I worked with mothers and babies with the opposite experiences though and am really aware of how awful and traumatic difficult labours and births can be, sometimes for both mother and baby. I can't bring myself to watch the programmes anymore. I see it all from either a much too personal, or much too professional point of view. If that makes sense.

for DEM

I still can't get motivated health wise, even after seeing horrendous pictures of myself today which actually made me hold my breath

Guilt is so part of motherhood - you're quite right Lizzy.

Yogini - probably a bad angle on the photo - I'm terribly un-photogenic.

I think it is a shame that guilt is associated with childbirth.... Given that so many women would choose 'natural', but have to make other choices; that is the most selfless, life giving decision to make, to push aside hopes and dreams to give this little scrappy thing a chance to be born into the world is just the purest form of love.

Tracey, I have no idea, I don't normally watch Eastenders, but do love Jack Branning in a bit of rough n rugged in a suit way.

Blimey, Bradley has just died.

I would happily go through life not knowing who the feck killed archie as the hype makes my teeth itch and I am not a fan of soaps.

sorry about that. I think i have just about solved the year 8 lesson plan issue. now all i need to do is to figure out what is going on with the stuff for year 10. Am getting there. But it is sloooooooowwwwwwwwww. On the other hand, i have main line on the old diet coke and now starting to twitch so will be bouncing about in an hour or so and incapable of caring.....

Thanks Traceybath, all 20 odd were probably all taken from bad angles. I agree

Agree about the guilt. And it's just the beginning. Mother/parenthood is run on guilt and the decisions we make throughout.

Is Bradley the ginger guy? (redhead maybe better? )

Yes, Yog.
My Mom had 2 awful pregnancies, was hospitalised and on a drip as was sick for 7mths constantly with me and my brother. She was treated like a failure and offered abortions (then sterilised after my Brother).
So I think it is justice that she (and you, Yog ) had great births.
Only fair.

My brother has a birthmark over one half of his face and my Mom still believes that it was down to her being so sick whilst pg. And he is 33!

Eastenders was quite fab, only watched as was intrigued by it being live, but it was v good.

Yep, Bradley is/was the unassuming red head married to Stacey. Bless him