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Kick butt - no more fags!

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mummylonglegs · 12/07/2005 15:08

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HappyHuggy · 20/07/2005 10:55

Ive got 4 fags left and am thinking about making them my last.

DO you ever heave when you taje a drag? I do sometimes and its yukky!

also im worried about dying and theyre expensive and i know all the health risks so why do i still do it?

I think its habbit! I like to smoke of an evening but lately ive noticed it creeping into the day time to and am smoking lots more! the number of fags i smoke has crept up too

I quit completely when i got pregnant with ds1 and didnt start again til he was 6 months - one night down the pub was all it took.

Quit again when i got pregnant with ds2 and didnt start again til he was 5 months - again went off to the pub!

Never smoke around the kids but i smoke around DH and the passive smokings really bad for him, and i always used to smoke in the garden but of an evening its crept into the house

Feel very guilty at smoking and feel like a faliure admitting i do!

charliecat · 20/07/2005 10:57

Well Feel Free to join us here, I recommened whyquit.com for some reading material. Its an addction more than a habit IMO, theres not many habits that lead you to commit slow suicide is there?!

mummylonglegs · 20/07/2005 10:57

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mummylonglegs · 20/07/2005 10:58

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HappyHuggy · 20/07/2005 10:59

commit slow suicide

i know all the facts and stuff but i dont think my brain wants to acknowledge them, like when the adverts come on the telly i always strangly seem to find something else, anything else to do rather than watch them..........

HappyHuggy · 20/07/2005 10:59

gone up to nearly 20 now mommylonglegs - from 5 a couple of months ago

charliecat · 20/07/2005 11:00

yep, know that feeling!

ScummyMummy · 20/07/2005 11:04

I'm 3 days in too Becca but not suffering too badly yet. This is my zillionth attempt it seems like. Really need to take on board and believe the "never take another puff" message because I've screwed up countless quits by weakening just once... I usually do well for a month or so and then weaken and slowly slowly work back up to full time smoking. I'm hoping I'm in with a good chance this time as won't smoke in front of the boys and summer hols is looming.

charliecat · 20/07/2005 11:04

Before I shoot off and leave you to browse whyquit.com the habit bits comes from the fact your nictine levels drop leading you out the back door for a fag or to the toilets for a quick fix...you THINK its a habit because your used to doing it, its not, without a regular fix or nicotine you rattle you itch and you cant concentrate...so before any of those things happen you go for a fag and refill.

Ive been off the fags for nearly 8 months now, took me 2-3 years of failing to get to this point though.

charliecat · 20/07/2005 11:06

For scrummy...

"Just One Little Puff?"

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It is hard for many people to grasp the concept of how just one little puff can result in full-blown relapse. It just doesn't seem logical to some people. But should you ever find yourself debating the thought of whether or not you could possibly get away with smoking "just" one, think about what advice you would give to a family member or friend who you cared for tremendously, while knowing that they were a recovering heroin or cocaine addict who was for the first time in months or years considering attempting recreational use. Imagine your shock and horror at even the thought of it, especially if you were with them back during the peak of their addiction when it was ruining almost every aspect of life and maybe even putting his or her very life on the line.

Would you say to him or her, "well, maybe you are better now, maybe its worth finding out if you could handle just one?" Would you feel the need to do a little research in current journals to see if maybe ?one? is an option now? Would you maybe even delve into a few neurological journals to see if the scientists now have a better grip on neurotransmitter pathways that could explain why addiction happens? Then maybe you could say, "Well they are starting to understand a little more of how addiction works and maybe soon they can alter your brain physiology. So now, if you relapse it may not be a big deal for a cure is just around the corner--maybe even only a few years away.? It is more likely that you would you cut through the rationalization and say, "If you do it, you are going to be back where you were when you first had to quit. You are going to mess up your life and everyone around you."

The odds are you would go the latter route. You would be horrified and take a firm stand that he or she shouldn't do it -- it would be stupid and even worse, suicidal. Well there is no difference between this scenario and the concept of, ?Maybe I can have just one, now.?

Well there is actually one difference. It is not medically or physically based, but rather societal. Our societies have not been taught about nicotine addiction. People have been taught about addiction and other drugs. Even though nicotine is more addictive than most any other addictive substance, and maybe even the most addictive of all, people still don't grasp how any administration of the substance can cause a relapse, even though they are taught this about most other addictive drugs.

How often has someone asked you after he finds out that you have quit smoking the question, "You mean you haven't even had one?" This is such a ludicrous comment, and yet so common. Or how many times have you seen literature put out by medical organizations advising a recovering addict to not let a slip put them back to using? The message has been clear and consistent with other drugs, the message being don't slip.

Everyone here has been exposed to this discrepancy, not just since he quit, but also for years and decades while he still smoked. You now have to alter a way of thinking that is part of your culture, no matter what culture you are from. The pervasive attitude of the society around you is wrong.

The society may accept the danger of smoking but they do not yet grasp the concept of the addiction. You have to be smarter and more informed than the society around you, maybe even your health care provider. It is asking a lot of an individual to think differently than the society as a whole, but in regards to smoking it has to be done.

The consequence of not becoming fanatical against a puff is too serious to just dismiss. It will be the loss of your quit, and that can easily translate into loss of your health and eventually loss of your life. You have to be vigilant at all times, to keep reminding yourself that you are a recovering addict.

Over time there may be no signs of the addiction; thoughts of cigarettes may have become rare events now and maybe even non-existent. But even at this stage of the game, there is a silent addiction still there that can take you down with full force for making one miscalculation -- thinking that maybe you are different.

You are no different than any other drug addict, whether the drug was alcohol, cocaine, heroin, etc. You are an addict for life, but as long as you get the drug out of your system and never administer it again, you will never be set into the downward spiral that the drug sets into motion to its users. In regards to smoking, that spiral is loss of your freedom, your health and your life, which means you can lose everything.

To keep what you've got, always remember that to stay smoke free you must NEVER TAKE ANOTHER PUFF!

ScummyMummy · 20/07/2005 11:06

8 months, charliecat! That's brilliant. You give me hope because I know you've done the serial quitting thing too.

charliecat · 20/07/2005 11:06

Havent I just

ScummyMummy · 20/07/2005 11:09

Thanks, cc. Stirring stuff!

charliecat · 20/07/2005 11:11

free quit meters here Get one...who would want to set it back to zero?

peckarollover · 20/07/2005 11:42

Ive just downloaded quitkeeper, thanks for that. That is the type of thing that will help.

Just had a call from my bestest friend, she is also popping up when smoking friend is here and bringing with her a photo she found of a dying woman in a magazine. This friends mum died of lung cancer two years ago aged 54 leaving behind 8 children and countless grandchildren. If that cant be motivation what can. I remember at her funeral my friend turning to me in tears and saying "PLEASE dont do this to Megan and Harvey" WHY WHY WHY WHY isnt that enough?

ScummyMummy · 20/07/2005 11:59

I couldn't find one for Mac but have bookmarked Quitmeter.com. Very satisfying to know EXACTLY how I'm doing.

charliecat · 20/07/2005 12:47

But gradually, something happens to the smoker. He becomes more dependent on cigarettes. He no longer smokes to solve a problem, to celebrate, or to feel great. He smokes because he NEEDS a cigarette. In essence he smokes because he is a smoker, or, more accurately, a smoke-a-holic. No longer does he get those special smoker highs--now he smokes because not smoking makes him feel withdrawal. Not smoking means feeling nervous, irritable, depressed, angry, afraid, nauseous, or headachy just to mention a few effects. He grasps for a cigarette to alleviate these symptoms, all the time hoping to get that special warm feeling that cigarettes used to give him. But, to his dismay, all that happens is he feels almost normal after smoking a cigarette. And 20 minutes later the whole process starts up again.

Once he quits smoking, life becomes nice again. No longer does he go into withdrawal 20 to 80 times per day. He can go anywhere any time he wishes and not have to worry about whether he will be able to smoke at his needed intervals. When he gets a headache or feels nauseous, he knows he is coming down with an infection, not feeling the way he does every day as a smoker from too much or too little smoking. In comparison to his life as a smoker, he feels great. But then something insidious starts to occur.

He begins to remember the best cigarette he ever had in his life. It may be one he smoked 10, 20 or maybe even 40 years earlier. He remembers that special warm feeling of that wonderful cigarette. If he thinks about it long enough, he may even try to recapture the moment. Unfortunately, however, the moment will recapture him. Once again he will be in the grip of an addiction which will cause him to be smoking more and enjoying less. This time he may not get off. This wonderful cigarette will cost him his freedom, his health and eventually his life. Don't make this mistake when you quit. Remember how cigarettes were the day you stopped, for that will be what they are like the day you go back, no matter how far apart those two days are. Remember the way they were and - NEVER TAKE ANOTHER PUFF!

charliecat · 20/07/2005 12:48

it's ironic but once a smoker learns that they have cancer that almost all of them fight with all their strength to beat it and stay alive. What that should tell us is that smokers don't yet appreciate how dangerous smoking really is. Isn't it time that we told them the truth!

HappyHuggy · 20/07/2005 12:48

only 2 fags left now..............

charliecat · 20/07/2005 12:50

The Smoker?s Vow

To be said just before taking your first puff after
having quit for any appreciable period of time

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With this puff I enslave myself
to a lifetime of addiction.
While I can?t promise to always love you,
I do promise to obey every craving and
support my addiction to you
no matter how expensive you become.

I will let no husband or wife,
no family member or friend,
no doctor or any other health professional,
no employer or government policy,
no burns or no stench,
no cough or raspy voice,
no cancer or emphysema,
no heart attack or stroke,
no threat of loss of life or limbs,
come between us.

I will smoke you forever
from this day forth,
for better or worse,
whether richer or poorer,
in sickness and in health,
till death do us part!

?You may now light the cigarette.?

?I now pronounce you a full-fledged smoker.?

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Postscript: While 1 in 2 marriages end in divorce, the addiction to smoking will last a lifetime?albeit a shorter lifetime. Once a smoker, annulment of the addiction is impossible. One puff can result in a permanent relapse. Don?t take the chance of relapsing to this marriage of inconvenience.

NEVER TAKE ANOTHER PUFF!

charliecat · 20/07/2005 13:13

Just made a twat of myself crying when my mum was rolling a fag

mummylonglegs · 20/07/2005 15:19

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HappyHuggy · 20/07/2005 15:20

ive got one fag left and am debating whether to go to the shop and get dome, and then make a fresh start in the morning. you know like wake up as a non-smoker

charliecat · 20/07/2005 16:42

What did you do hh?

HappyHuggy · 20/07/2005 17:06

well havent been the shop yet...........

am outta fags now though...........

am sorely tempted too take the kids for some fresh air and a nice walk to the shop.....

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