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Revolutionaries of The Shiney Path - The Gorillas In Our Midst Eat Healthily

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BitOfFun · 02/10/2009 19:59

Welcome to our 22nd Healthy Eating thread under the auspicious eye of Shiney the Cult Leader. She is vegetarian (like a gorilla), but you don't have to be! Or hairy!

I may be getting distracted by my over-cryptic thread title (it is hard when all the obvious ones have been done- fwiw The Shining Path are a South American guerrilla group and I'm looking at watching Che on dvd later, what can I say...), but I have been appointed Tsar With Authority for Titles, and starting this on a Friday night may be ill-judged, BUT...

We are here with the aim of eating healthily, losing weight in varying amounts if that is what we wish, and most of all posting as often as we're able to support each other. We have a good laugh too. Allegedly. But we're no trouble, no siree...

New-comers very welcome, just introduce yourselves and pile in!

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LeninGhoul · 06/10/2009 01:49

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BiteOfFun · 06/10/2009 01:57

Actually, your running tale last night reminded me of my most unsisterly moment ever...

About five days (def less than a week after she was born, her dad and I went up Salisbury Crags in Edinburgh where we were living. He was doing a bit of climbing, baby in carseat under him, and I was having a little run. Only ten minutes, but quite steep, but hey, I felt invincible, still high after the birth. On the way back up the path, I passed a couple with their own little baby, stopped to chat, and they said theirs was five weeks old, and it was their first walk out. "Ooh!", I said, "There's my baby- she's almast a week old!"

The woman was still walking like John Wayne, and her face dropped. I was genuinely just being all excited and cheery, but when I saw her face, I realised I had just been the Most Smug Twat She Had Ever Met.

I still cringe when I think of it...

TheMitsubishiWarrioress · 06/10/2009 06:59

Bella, I have just read your posts ad I am so so sad for you. I found DS very very challenging, pretty well from birth. (never stopped crying and I had no help apart from H). At 9 we had suffered 5 bereavements in 4 years and 2 people he was very close to. And that is when his rages started.

His Dad and I both struggled but the relationship between him and his Dad was apalling.

I don't stop his pocket money, or really 'punish' his behaviour (unless he is mean to his sister), but we do talk a lot. His self esteem was none existant. I spent a lot of time praising him and reassuring him how much I love him. For some reason, guilt and shame make his behaviour worse, where with a lot of us, it brings us into line.

I use the 'I' message. ('I am unhappy that this has happened because.....' rather than accusatory statements that make him feel he is to blame.) I also ask how 'we' can find a solution to what is bothering us.

'It is difficult for mummy if you don't come in on time because she is on her own with DD, so it is not easy to just pop out and find you...this means I don't have time to do X or Y with you...how do you feel I could help you remember to come in on time?' We got him a mobile phone which is a big help. I give him a 10 minute warning that it is nearly time to come in.. then 5, then, (and he usually comes in) that I want him home now.

It isn't changing overnight but the progress since this time 6 months ago is remarkable. Last night was probably 50% my fault because I do get frustrated and tried to assert my parental authority whch achieves zilch. He responds much better to being treated
older than he is.
The phone is a good one as I will say, ''your phone is being put away until you have done so and so, and no phone...no going out.'' I don't take it indefinately because he just behaves worse because he feels hard done by. But if he realises a change to his behaviour will get it back, it mostly works.

It is so disheartening and I really feel for you. Finding his 'key' will come and things can be turned around, even though I truly understand how you must feel right now.

We have had CAMHS, a social worker, and a mentor, and mostly it is lovely now to see him progressing. There will be a root cause and it may surprise you but don't give up Bella. I am sure you do but look for and give him the opportunity to 'shine' as they get sucked into the spiral of negativity that their own behaviour causes.

Sorry for rambling and not sure if my experiences will offer any help or comfort but I really do empathise.

SpookyAlice · 06/10/2009 07:20

Haven't quite caught up, but running out of time, tuesday is my mad day.

Bella - about your son, a friend has taken the wheels off her DD's bike because she kept doing that and it has had some effect

TMW - you sound like you cope amazingly, he sounds like he can be very hard work sometimes. Is he bigger than you now?

Shiney - how are you today? I find that hot ribena (with brandy) works a treat when feeling like shite, hoping the AB's are working for you now

bellavita · 06/10/2009 07:31

Mitts - your post is just lovely - brought tears to my eyes. Do you know, he was a fantastic baby until he turned a year old, then he just grew red horns on his head! What you have said does make a lot of sense, my DH an I do try to work together for him, but sometimes it is just so frustrating. One of the teaching assistants who was doing her graduate thingy last year had the Head ring me up and ask if it was ok for her to use Tom as her study case because she found him so interesting. A lot of what I told her that happens at home fit with his actions at school. Funnily enough she adored him as did the nursery staff when he was there - he was just like the blue eyed boy. In fact, one day whilst out shopping, I bumped into the teacher from nursery who was with her husband and she said to him "this is Tom's mum from nursery, the little boy I talk about and adore"

I too am for you too Mitts, you have been through an awful lot. What an amazing person you are x.

p.s. you didn't ramble

FlamingoBingo · 06/10/2009 07:33

Morning all.

How are you this morning Shiney?

Bella - have you read How To Talk So Kids Will Listen? Very good book.

Lenin - hope you got some sleep. I had a very colicky DD2 after a very easy DD1. It was hell but I've survived! And I agree - I can manage on far less sleep than I ever have done. I haven't had a full night's sleep now for over 7 years now, since getting pg with DD1, and I think your body just adjusts eventually.

Crappy, horrible weather here - and there's washing still on the line from yesterday

And I'm really hungry.

FlamingoBingo · 06/10/2009 07:35

Oh and Syc - so so pleased to see you back!

And cliques? I'm certain that some exist but most are in the eye of the defensive, I feel!

Lizzylou · 06/10/2009 07:37

Bella and TMW, you sound like such loving, patient Mothers .
Bella, is your DS2 the boy who was looking after you when you had your Op? The square peg/round hole analogy is a good one, we do expect children to fit in to a one size fits all mould. Sounds like he has good support at home and school, and that he is very easy to love.
I always thought that once you got past the terrible twos it got easy this parenting lark. I am finding out via MN and my own boys that that isn't true! I should have realised, I have 3 brothers (2 are half brothers a lot younger than me who I have never lived with), and I remember what I was like!

FlamingoBingo · 06/10/2009 07:41

Lizzy - it doesn't get easier, it gets different! The older they get the more complicated they get!

Lizzylou · 06/10/2009 07:44

FB, I am realising that, slowly!
Mine are 5.5 and 3.5 and it is certainly no easier even now.
I was so naive

daftpunk · 06/10/2009 07:47

aloha..

pouring with rain here...will get soaked again...

Bella;..it will get better....honestly.

LG;...watched the man city game last night....i have gone down to about 30th...have had 3 really bad weeks, only getting around 25 points..[rubbish]..

thats how it goes....i'll be back up there soon..!

i'm guessing you have Fabregas..

NormaSknockers · 06/10/2009 07:51

Bloody hell, page 38 already? How the heck did that happen, I only blinked Please don't tell me there's another thread already, I think I'll cry!

Oh, morning all

slimeoncrazydemon · 06/10/2009 08:19

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vampyrekisses · 06/10/2009 08:25

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daftpunk · 06/10/2009 08:25

your mother sounds wonderful shineon...

hope you're feeling better..

daftpunk · 06/10/2009 08:26

running....late for school...again!

NormaSknockers · 06/10/2009 08:38

Shiney tell your mum sounds wonderful, tell her I'm V jealous I have a plain old boring wood one, yuk, yuk, yuk! Never really thought of getting a funky stick not that I use it much these days!

DreamsInBinary · 06/10/2009 08:50

Flamingo I know I've got something to ask you, but annoyingly I only remember what it is when I am nowhere near a computer

bellavita · 06/10/2009 08:55

Lizzy - yes it was DS2 who looked after me

Thanks for all your kind words

Shiney - your mum being glamorous does not surprise me in the least She sounds just fab.

FlamingoBingo · 06/10/2009 08:56

DIB. Think, think, think woman! Now I'm intrigued!

DH is going for a preliminary interview with a the manager of a car sales place. I hope it works out - we both really want him out of his current company.

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bellavita · 06/10/2009 09:03

Shiney - sorry, I didn't answer your question - am fine thanks. A lot more positive than last night. DH is hurt, upset and angry with DS2 right now, but it is something we are all going to have to work through.

More importantly though - how are you? Have the antibiotics kicked in yet?

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NormaSknockers · 06/10/2009 09:07

Awwww Shiney she sounds absolutely fantastic, what a wonderful mummy Loving you getting a pink pair through the post, love her! Yes, much better to not need one certainly can't complain on that scaore it did feel good to be able to leave it behind at home Glad your mum has got herself some seriously funky ones though, good on her!

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