Revolutionaries of The Shiney Path - The Gorillas In Our Midst Eat Healthily

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Welcome to our 22nd Healthy Eating thread under the auspicious eye of Shiney the Cult Leader. She is vegetarian (like a gorilla), but you don't have to be! Or hairy!

I may be getting distracted by my over-cryptic thread title (it is hard when all the obvious ones have been done- fwiw The Shining Path are a South American guerrilla group and I'm looking at watching Che on dvd later, what can I say...), but I have been appointed Tsar With Authority for Titles, and starting this on a Friday night may be ill-judged, BUT...

We are here with the aim of eating healthily, losing weight in varying amounts if that is what we wish, and most of all posting as often as we're able to support each other. We have a good laugh too. Allegedly. But we're no trouble, no siree...

New-comers very welcome, just introduce yourselves and pile in!

DH is so disgusted with him he can barely look at him at the moment.

He disappeared to the park yesterday when supposedly outside in the street. An incident occurred with a boy from his class - they rub each other up the wrong way, something happened, DS spat at him and swore, this boy got hold of DS and banged his head on the floor. Though DS told DH a different story to that, it was through my tart friend that I learnt the truth tonight. Last week he come home full of nettle stings, turns out he was spitting, swearing and throwing stones at an older boy Yr7 and he pushed him into the nettles.

Bella - is there anything he really cares about? Computer time, hobby you pay for (footie/rugby lessons), pocket money? Sounds like it is disrespect for you atm

ooh i likey likey Squeezy

I need to check out if there are any similar as i thing there are a few Saz combos out there

DS is 11, DIB.... they have been going on for nearly 3 years now and mostly I know how to deflect them but sometimes...well, you know.

Wish I could advise Bella. My evening started badly because he came home from school 1 1/2 hrs late , but flipped at me for being on his case. I didn't even get cross, just explained why I was upset.

Oh bah....I am going to sleep. I will sit on the naughty step in the morning for having a crap mummy meltdown.

Goodnight all....sorry for missing others stuff. My brain cell gets overwhelmed!

Hmm, chortling here at having a wise day, so I will make some half-baked suggestions...Bella, how about getting him signed up to something with a bit of discipline like a Martial Art? And Mits- is he any good having a little chat after an outburst on how it has made you feel? Could you talk to him about finding some techniques to express his anger in other ways? Or relaxation techniques? I wonder whether it would help him too to get into an exhausting sport? Can his dad help?

He sounds quite angry (with others as well as you). Would he talk to anyone about it - uncle/grandpa?

He cares about nothing Sazz. He cannot keep anything nice . Whatever knew things we have - venetian blinds - he cut one of them (scissors are put away). New leather sofa - he cut the stitching (whilst in the care of my parents) my mother was horrified that she didn't see him do such a thing. Poured paint into the petrol bit of our lawn mower. Has stuffed tampons down the back of the vanity unit where the toilet is. He decided to wash the base that my hair straighteners sit in - how I did not electrocute myself I don't know, they were dripping wet when I came to use them last week. Roots through draws in my bedroom.

We have not give him pocket money now for weeks, laptop banned, i-pod banned, he just does not care..

new not knew gah!

Wow Bella, that sounds really tough . Can the school shed any light on it? Really have no ideas i'm afraid other than trying to understand what is driving it, but no idea how you do that, other than finding someone he will confide in - realise how difficult this is. BoF's martial arts sounds a good idea.
I am dreading the teenage girl bit and will be calling on our child psychotherapist neighbours. A lot i imagine.

Wine and fortitude coming your way in abundance

You don't know what to say do you - you are all horrified

Trying this on for size

and off to bed..........night all

Thanks Sazz, the martial arts thing does sound ok BofF - will look into that.

Trouble he is very bright, I think it is an attention thing. He does a lot of faffing in class and they have to keep coming up with ways to keep his hands entertained. School are very good - he has an iep, so we do meet up regularly. He is also a very loving child too, which makes it difficult when he has done something wrong. He would do anything for you and doesn't moan. I asked him to hoover the stairs yesterday morning and he was very happy to do it.

It's definitely an eye-opener, Bella

When the baby wakes at her customary 05.05 I shall think of this thread and consider myself lucky! I wish I had words of advice to you at Mits, but I only have experience of three-year-old boys.

How's about a glass of fat-free champers to make it all better

He sounds ace, Bella, even if he can be a handful. I think children need to be a little wild - if not now, then when? Bright is always good. Bloody hard for you, of course.

Me not horrified at all. I was a little shit when I was young. I don't have kids so am not in any position to give advice. However my little brother has not long turned 13 and he gives my step mum a real hard time, lots of cheek and bad behaviour. She is very hard on him but he doesn't listen.

When I see him though, it's like butter wouldn't melt in his mouth, he goes all quiet and shy. If I find out he has been bad and phone him up for a verbal ass kick (which I often do), he craps himself......but his mum could shout at him, ban Playstation etc etc and he doesn't care.

I was the same, I never listened to my parents but for everyone else, I was like an angel.

It's been a hard day for lots of our lovely members, but is anyone else feeling the warm glow from a busy thread back on track?

my ds2 informed me tonight that a boy at 'big school' (pre school, he only started last weds) was nasty to him

I said, what did you do?

He said he pulled a mean face back to the boy (a bit like this -> ) then shuck his fist and said 'i'll give him a muckle sandwich mummy ' (knuckle sandwich)

then he said 'he might see this one (waved fist) but he wont see this one (waved other fist)'

Hes 3

Hmm, it sounds like hard work Bella, but perhaps the answer then is to keep him very busy, and give him a chance to be good? Rather than thinking of effective punishments,think more in terms of effective distractions? It sounds like he needs quite intensive input and a lot of structure to channel his energy positively. Does that sound like it might help?

Vinny, that is priceless- I can just picture him

Shiney, no DH and I don't swear, might say the bloody word now and again, but the words he uses are really and .

He does have a little help at school and goes out of normal lessons every day for a bit - which I know he enjoys doing.

I have a friend who works in schools - doing behaviour and all that and she said he is just a free spirit .

He would not wear nappies past the age of about 20 months. Rode a bike without stabilisers when he was 3. Overtook DS1 with swimming lessons by aged about 6 when DS1 had been going for I don't know how long.

I agree with you that he must be angry about something.. but what I don't know - I have asked him and he says he isn't.

He was a shining star at nursery - a angel, they loved him, reception was okish, then Yr1 we started with the problems - crap teacher who ended up being on long term sick. Yr2 picked up - he had a fab teacher who accepted him for what was a square peg who couldn't fit into a round hole. Behaviour has got better at school - we had a behaviour manager go in and assess - she said that the majority of the time he was being set up and he just took and accepted the punishment - sort of well they say it is me, just easier to get it over and done with rather than argue. He seems to have got himself a label and the other boys play to this sometimes. A bit like, oh get Tom to do it - he is daft enough and they know full well he will get caught - he just cannot see it and walk away.

Am rambling now.

I love your mum, Shiney

Shiney - I like the sound of your mum

BofF - yes you are right, when you put it like that. I know when my dad has taken him fishing - good as gold.

New plan then for tomorrow - manage DS2's time better and get it more structured so he has less time to do such horrible things.

Thanks girls - feel better now