TOO MUCH CALPOL

[huggybear]

i posted a comment a while ago on someone s thread about a friend who gave her dd 3 tablespoons of calpol to get her to sleep and people posted back that it was dangerous (as they should and i agree) but the problem is, is that shes still doing it! she lets her swig from the bottle and gives her 20mil ect. her dd is only 2 years old. ive told her over and over again that shes going to harm her daughter but she says "shes used to it" or "it wont do her any harm" and more recently shes actually handed her dd the bottle and said "lets make auntie xxx cross" ffs

i need advice of what to say/do because even if she seems fine after taking the calpol it could be doing her long term damage! ive seen her do it 3 times in the last week

lol!
well done you pass the test
also would recommend armour.
but killing a lion with an airgun is a bit cruel- she's not been talking to lavender has she?

God I was so cross about this last night. Couldn't get off to sleep! TO doesn't know what he is talking about. It is someone who is obviously here to stirr up trouble, and he probably got his kicks from me last night. I only hope Huggy is not upset that I have seemed so forceful and argumentative about this. The fact that TO believes two medications successfully used together for years to be dangerous proves that he has no real knowledge on the subject and I hope that Huggy realises that the link suggesting Calpol O/D is really not relevant as it is not referring to what is basically, sustained O/D. Hope you are ok Huggy.

Huggy - you around today? How're you doing. Looks like there was a bit of strange activity on this thread last night after I went to bed!
Hope you've spoken to your friend and are taking appropriate measures to help her dd.

hang on, he wasn't saying that the combination of drugs were dangerous, but that in combining the two, you might get confused about how much of either you've actually taken.

Off to ask a paediatrician about his reference....

Tissy, he IMO is therefore implying that people are stupid.

and anyway, it has no bearing on the original post.

Flosson I think you are being a little harsh!

Most accidental OD's are as a result of forgetfulness and/or stupidity!

I think that was all TodayOnly was getting at. Most of us advise others from the results of our own experience - it may just be as simple as TodayOnly knowing (or having dealt with) someone who OD'd in this way!

I'm sure Huggybear is taking this seriously and will take appropriate action - I wouldn't be too worried about maintaining a friendship with someone as crazy as that! I agree therefore that the child's welfare must take priority over preserving the friendship!

I also think it is more than just co-incidence that a man has popped up on a thread about calpol after all those unpleasant calpol threads last year.

Hi, thanks for all your advice and thanks for the links. ive printed the liver transplant one off. My friends daughter stayed at mine last night as friend was going out. have arranged to meet friend after college armed with info about calpol overdoeses and liver probs. got appointment with health visitor for tomorrow, what i'll say to her depends on friends reaction tonight. friends dd is at nursery all day so i know shes ok there.

Its very scary and i feel nervous about it, its her dds future im determining and i feel like ive had this huge responsibilty dumped on me. Im worried about betraying my friend as she was the only one who stood by my when i was attacked and the only one who came to court with me. I am also due to give evidence on her behalf in court in her ex case in november.

i know it has to be done. SS have already visited about 8 months ago concerned about the childs safety after the police contacted them after being called out so many times.

if anybody has anymore easy to read links, i would be greatful. am in a lesson at the mo, so cant look as much as id like to.

also, do you think i/my friend need to take her dd to the doctors or hospital to be checked over?

thanks

Oh huggybear this must be so difficult for you but you are SO dong the right thing. Everyone here is supporting you 100%.

HB, sorry about this thread. I think she should be checked over you peace of mind, yes. i'll look for more links for you.

Lockets - in the first post he is talking about children because they have a greater tolerance to paracetamol than adults do.

In teh second post he clearly says adults are stupid to mix ibup and paracetemol. This is because the risk of OD to adults from paracetemol is much higher.

So if you make a mistake and O/D a child then there may not be a serious impact. Do the same to an adult and you could very well be dead!

SB, Have you looked at my link? Because overdose of paracetamol is still listed as one of the top reasons for pediatric liver transplant in the under tens.

yes, ONE accidental overdose of paracetamol in a child may have no effect.

But this woman is doing it EVERY day! The risks of prolonged OD are very well documented, and to say a child is less at risk of it is ridiculous

Huggy,
I think the little girl needs checking over, perhaps ur friend could say she got hold of the bottle by accident.
Your really are in such a difficult situation, but thank god you are looking out for the little girl.

I don't think you are betraying your friend here at all Huggybear. It sounds as if you both are having a really stressful time and here she hasn't had the support, appart from yours, to see how dangerous her actions are. You are looking out for her here, imagine how she would feel if her daughter does get ill.

Flossom - I'm not a medic so I'm not getting into a debate about whether he is right in what he has posted. I am only saying that what he posted followed his own logic, i.e. that none of his own statements conflicted each other and that his view of accidental O/D in adults can't be dismissed outright!

My own GP has said to me in the past that paracetemol is very well tolerated in young children. Nevertheless, I would never support the view that people should be allowed to overdose their children with the stuff!

sorry if this has been said before , as i havent read the whole thread.
a friend of mine at school took 22 paracetamol tablets. she was lucky to get away without liver failure. the doctor in a &e said he knew of a girl who had died after taking 11. calpol is paracetamol. if your friend dooesnt think she is giving too much medicine, then tell her about this.

does any one have any idea what ss or hv would do? talk to her or take the baby away??

They will do a home visit and talk to her. Don't worry, they won't take the baby away until it's the last resort.