You're a part-time vegger and full time friend... 10/10 thread - all welcome

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For anyone who wants a boost to their general health. The suggested goals are:

EAT 10 PORTIONS OF FRUIT AND VEGETABLES EVERY DAY - if you don't usually eat much fruit and veg I would build up gradually or you could upset your digestion.

DO (AT LEAST) 10 MINUTES OF EXERCISE EVERY DAY - can be yoga, stretching or something more energetic. The plan is that the idea of doing 10 minutes is not too daunting, and having started you may well find you want to do more.

There are no restrictions on what you eat so long as you get your 10 fruit and veg as well. The focus is not on weight loss but on improving our energy levels and hopefully our general mood and well-being. Sign up below and post here to tell us how you're getting on and how you are feeling.

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oh thank you all

well be careful what you wish for
ds2 going mad wanting milk all afternoon poor soul has got a bit yellow round the gills (jaundice) - midwife came said not to worry, they all get it (is this true?)
anyway I tried again lying down and he fed and fed and fed for ages, and since then he seems to have got the idea a little more and be pretty keen

doula came with enormous stash of expensive presents
I want to get her something special asa a thank you but haven't had time to get it organised yet - now will it look like we only got something because she did? Surely she shouldn't be buying us loads of stuff?

very nice though

Bero I am sorry you feel so conflicted about work. I hope nothing I said upset you.

and he can hold up his head a bit
is that G+T?

Good evening everybody

God it takes a long time to catch up with 10/10 threads

bero - sorry you're feeling so shit. I had to go back to work full time after DD and itw as DREADFUL - never again I vowed! I went back 3 days after DS and loved that, felt i had hte best of both worlds.

Franny - O.M.G. its a good job I'm pg otherwise I'd be rushing DH upstairs. Your sons are delicious. In fact, DS1 looks JUST like my DS's best friend Matthew P - any cousins wiht that name?! They have the same hair and grin. DS1 looks SO proud

I'm in awe taht you're managing to post - I seem to remember myself as post birth being some sort of zombie for days, with both of them! When I have this one, I can't see me posting for days and days

I remember with both DD and DS the "they don't feed" panic but after a few days, they really got stuck in I think my MW said that as its the colostum, its SO rich and good for them that I shouldn't worry about them jsut having bits to feed and that a teeny bit fills them up (but I may not remember that 100%)

(and I lurvet aht lemon babygro)

oh franny he I am sure he is G&T - I can tell from the photos. I think you should get some flashcards with keywords on if you haven't already.

your doula sounds rather lovely - but to be a doula you probably have to be unless she is really perverted in a biting poo way maybe) I would order her, um, something from that hotel choclat place on internet.

tell me things ds1 has said - i love his wise words.

oh actually I shouldn't be bossing about the recently birthed and mooed.

Franny, ds2 looks as if he stocked up extremely well before he left. No wonder he's not that hungry

Bero, I have emailed you.

Hello MamaG
I'm sure I've spoken to you before but my brain is made of porridge and things get lost in it.
Are you joining us then?

Bee the doula is wonderful, we are so lucky we had her
I can't really explain what a difference it made having this very caring, very strong, calm, focused woman there with me
I could not have given birth at home with only gas and air without her - the midwives were also very nice, and dp was fabulous, but I just needed someone there who knew me and who could give me constant strength and go through it with me every step, and she was there

Ds1 not had a great day poor chap
some friends kindly took him to a party we were all due to attend but couldn't quite face in the circs
let him eat cake and ice cream all afternoon - he had no 'proper' food
plus watched videos for hours
he came home in an, erm 'interesting' state of mind and has been bouncing off the walls ever since
just about gone to sleep now I reckon - he'll be up again at 6 am

ds is very disappointed in me as a new mother I think
grassed me up to dp today "Mummy says ds2 is just whimpering and that he is ok but he isn't, he is CRYING and Mummy is ignoring him" [outrage]

last night he went to bed extremely happy and singing songs about ds2
"Lucian is a good little boy, yes he is, yes he is"

oh god I am taking deep breaths at thoughts of days ahead with lots of visitors, ds1 getting over excited about presents, people taking ds out and 'treating' him with lots of crap food, then returning him

ooh I do seem ungrateful
I know we are very lucky to have so many people who will help us
it is a bit hard when you have to let other people do things their way sometimes though isn't it? and it isn't just a one off, it's going to be lots of the time for quite a while

p.s. ds2 WASN'T really crying
and I wasn't ignoring him, I was having a wee

If it would help I could come and bring him here and I could put him in a the shed and let him watch DH 'organise'. I could give him a tin of cannelini beans to keep him going.

Only out of the goodness of my heart mind {grin]

I am joking. Honest.

A lot of newborns do get a touch of jaundice. They will monitor it. Jaundice is a hot topic so if it were anything more than a 'tinge' you'd be off to hospital for the lamp quicker than you can say yellow submarine.

That's how it works round by yer anyway.

Yes, it is hard but it doesn't have to be like that. I expect everyone is a little wired due to exciting circs.

It'll be okay to say to friend 'please don't give him loads of sweets and sugar and stuff because it makes him crazy' and then give her a big grateful hug.

Don't worry. That will all be fine. [Anne in the birthing room emoticon]

[bows to small oi person]

Franny it will be OK

DS1 won;t come out of this with an icecream habit

Can DH pack him upa snack to take before he goes to avoid people needing to buy him things?

DS had jaundice

Advice was make sure he gets lots of natural light, and feed as much as poss

Was gone within a week. It makes them sleepy though

would be tempted to do bare faced lie to kind people taking ds1 out and say 'he has had an upset tummy nad I am worried about him' hand over snacks

oh we always do do snacks
and I am sure people know am food nazi on the strict side
they are just being kind, 'just this once'
only it is every day or whatever
anyway he did sleep. Eventually.

Hey Lully.

How's it going? How is the fool?

hello

TooT, thank you. That was so nice it started me off again And thank you everyone for very undeserved kind words. Sorry for disappearing. I went away because I was quite embarrassed at the state I was in tbh (as if you could all see the snot and tears and hunched shoulders), cried myself out, then put ds2 in the sling, put on music, tidied, made carrot cake, ate fruit. Did good to be on my own with my head.

Franny, don't worry. The last thing you should be thinking about is whether you upset me. It will be fine with ds1. It is an unusual and special time and he will mentally fit any 'treats' into that context. And of course you can ask gently for 'treats' of that sort to be limited. Your doula sounds wonderful. I gave birth to ds2 alone well, with no birth partner. dh was with ds1. He had never been alone for any length of time with anyone except us, and I we felt dh shouldn't leave him then of all times. Two friends I think could have done it and I would have wanted them, but I didn't dare to ask.

FK, it sounds rubbish and a bit arrogant but I don't think counselling would be useful tbh, as I know what is going on and why - it's a case of integrating it into my view of my life and dealing with it - and I'm usually not bad at that. On the specific issue of WOH and mothering a German counsellor is likely to be positively unhelpful, as the view here is very polarised. People are either extremely for WOHM or extremely against, which caused quite a few very confused reactions to me during my time in my last job. You are supposed to pick your identity one way or the other and slot into the stereotype.

i know it is hard thouh franny because everyone thinks they need to 'treat'him and don;t see the bigger picture of it being very regular. I remember this with birthday parties - you can think oh well it is a treat and then you look at the calednar and there is a party most weekends.

he is sleeping though and that is good.

mine both had jaundice - BF is very good.

Hello lovelies!

Franny it's obscene how fabulous you look in that photo and ds2 is scrummy!!!!!

Bero sorry you're feeling so sad I hope you can work through things. You're not annoying and don't ever feel you can't come on here and cry or vent.

Lully sooo glad H got home safely Did you discuss anything when he got back? You said it wasn't nice

Hi everyone else!!!! Hope everyone's fine and dandy.

I went for a run yesterday for the frist time in a couple of weeks. Twas good. I'm going to try and start doing yoga a few times a week too so if I'm hanging around on here all evening then tell me to get off and do a dvd!