You're a part-time vegger and full time friend... 10/10 thread - all welcome

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he's not really fussed about feeding much and when he does, he doesn't seem to get it yet (doesn't know how to open mouth wide and latch on)

I am a bit because I keep mentioning that he hasn't really fed properly IMO and yet in my notes they keep writing "feeding well"
I think they just want to tick their boxes rather than spending time checking it
and because this is ds2 they think I will sort it out by myself

hope you feel better later, bero
it is a difficult situation but it does sound as if you are feeling more overwhelmed by it rather than seeing it in a more balanced way

I know am being drama queen. Will pull self together

oh god I am actually just really annoying aren't I?

Oh Franny, both your boys are just beautiful, I am absurdly excited to see them! DS2 looks so edible and cuddly, and DS1 looks so happy with his baby brother. And god, you look amazing, so serene and glowy, despite the lack of sleep!

WRT the feeding, make sure you put him to the breast often is what I was told, with DS, so you may want to just try him regularly.

Bero, you are not annoying, It is perfectly natural to feel so conflicted, it is part of what a mother often feels about working/not working etc. I think the fact that you do question your paenting, and have been prepared to make sacrifices to be there for your children, shows what a good parent you are.

Just nipping in as in a rush but Franny!!! Gorgeous photos! He is big isn't he! Ds1 looks so chuffed doesn't he, and you look fanstastic and dressed

I am trying to remember how ds fed... I think it wasn't very much in the first couple of days. He would have a very quick feed then a long feed... slept loads (that soon changed though ) no real pattern established for a while. Was rather difficult actually getting him to latch on in the beginning too. I always felt reassured by him pooing and weeing lots.

Bero I will email you later x

Franny

Photos are blissful. DS2 looks edible. His cheeks are so appley (sp?)...he belongs right on this thread

You look amazingly serene too....and look at DS1's amazing grin

Bero

FWIW I wanted to go back to work (p/t) and I still spent the two weeks running up to starting drowned in tears sobbing to DH that I thought I had made thew wrong decision and DS would be damaged by it.

I think DH just thought I was completely crackers.

It does sound like you have a lot of things to sort out in your mind - any chance you could see a counsellor by yourslef for a bit? Apols if that is something you have done already.

What would your employers do if you said no?

Franny DS also didn;t feed much for the first 3-4 days. I was in hospital for 3 days and was getting quite worried but they kept on saying everything was OK - and he was weeing and pooing fine.

Even when I got home my milk never "came in" like the textbook description (no engorgement or cabbage leaves or flannels ro anything) and I was terrified it was all going wrong, but he just kind of built up to it IYSWIM.

Lovely Bero you are not annoying ..you are going thorugh a difficult time with hard decisions to make and feeling like things are overtaking you.

ha ha at the noses comment

I remember that pushing feeling, just when it gets somewhere at the end of the contraction you pause for a second and it slips straight back. 'That's good they say, we're where we were before now, keep going' and you just CAN'T
push again but somehow you do and then like you say, you have to hold it there between them with the most GARGANTUAN effort and it is like a hitting a brick wall.

I think he is probably fine with the feeding, they barely get anything the first few days do they, as long as he's latching on and sucking a bit?

Oh Franny
he is simply perfect.
What beautiful children you have & you look incredible!

I remember being worried with ds & the feeding scenario..at the birthing centre i started off at & then transferred to afterwards they kept writing 'feeding well' when all ds was doing was having about two sucks & then falling asleep.

bero ((((())))))))

ds & I have been picking blackberries
I'm sure it's far far too early,shouldn't it be septemberish really?

Bero, you seem like a wonderful mother to me, you spend such a large amount of time doing things with the boys.

I can hear a cow mooing

Our neighbour has some sheep and a donkey behind us, but I'm sure no cows.

Very strange.

Lovely little fella you've cooked there Franny!

As per the feeding, I am no midwife but... the advice they ALWAYS give mothers in my office is that the first few days are weird, they might feed more than seems healthy it might seem like they are not feeding at all. Babies do know what to do. It's when they stop passing anything you could be concerned. Being born is very tiring. And traumatic.

Same with poo. With B/F babies, 1 poo in 10 days is normal as is 10 in one day.

Bero, don't be sad, it seems a mountain now but once you're in amongst it will get easier... Don't beat yourself up about your mothering skills, I'm sure you're imagining your bad bits! We all have things we would like to have done differently.

Good advice about the home based nanny situ too from... can't remember.

hello all

it's me foxinsocks in a guise as I came back and mumsnet had been invaded by foxes

I hear you've had a baby Franny! Woohoo! Have just seen the pics, cor he is gorgeous and HUGE and so smooth and beautiful and you look radiant my dear. Well done, just marvellous.

I saw blCK BERRIES TOO.

oh what beautiful beautiful pictures - everyone looking happy and healthy.

very wonderful.

My word that is a gorgeous infant. Your ds1 looks chuffed to bits, Franny.

how is the feeding franny?

how is ds1 (!) finding it all? tell me things he has said.

had dds birthday party today - 14 6yr olds - I forget how hellish these things can be.