You're a part-time vegger and full time friend... 10/10 thread - all welcome

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For anyone who wants a boost to their general health. The suggested goals are:

EAT 10 PORTIONS OF FRUIT AND VEGETABLES EVERY DAY - if you don't usually eat much fruit and veg I would build up gradually or you could upset your digestion.

DO (AT LEAST) 10 MINUTES OF EXERCISE EVERY DAY - can be yoga, stretching or something more energetic. The plan is that the idea of doing 10 minutes is not too daunting, and having started you may well find you want to do more.

There are no restrictions on what you eat so long as you get your 10 fruit and veg as well. The focus is not on weight loss but on improving our energy levels and hopefully our general mood and well-being. Sign up below and post here to tell us how you're getting on and how you are feeling.

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oh no poor Franny & family - it must be very upsetting for them all

Oh no, poor Franny and family.

FWIW something similarish happened with ds2 at 3 weeks - he was feeding fine and in perfect shape but breathing ridiculously fast, cue three days of IV ABs due to unspecified neonatal infection, plus lots of tests that were all negative. It was horrid, of course, especially because at the beginning they were throwing round pneumonia and RSV, but we got through.

I think I've got an unused tube-that-you-attach-to-breast thing for EBM (had two of the things after traumas with ds1 just-in-case they repeated themselves) but it probably wouldn't get there in time - but I will post it off anyway, MtsC, if you speak to her and she says she would like it.

Oh poor Franny and Lucian .

Really hope all gets better very soon.

I did the Race for Life today. Took me 36 min (and 36 seconds) and I felt quite pleased with myself.

Feel a bit worn out now though - think my exertions have triggered a bit of SPDish ouchiness - I had it with DS (now getting on for 5) and it does flare up sometimes.

oh well done, Idris. That's brilliant.

Still, they've identified it as a prob quickly and are taking good steps to solve, which is the main thing right? All will be well, if not as intended.

Yes, excellent work Idris. Most impressed. How far is it? Were there hills not flat bits?

It was 5km and there were some not flat bits (including a part that seemed to be through a (small) field of clover and involved playing a game of avoid the nettle).

Am now feeling rather ouchy as the running seems to have given me a flare up of SPD-type thing. Not sure if you can really have it when the pregnancy that brought it on happened 5 years ago .

DH is manfully attempting a solo bedtime with DS and DD upstairs.

Oh fair play! They say to a seasoned (read mega committed Paula R type, ridculously fleet of foot) runner, 5k can take as 'little' (hahahah) as 30 mins so that is impressive.

On a treadmill, with my uber competitive BF next to me, I can do about 3k, it takes nearly 20 mins. I have a feeling it's not my fitness or whatnot, I think that might be as much as I can actually do!

I hate running. To the point where I have decided I have to do it. Is that part of getting older? Taking on impossible demons?? Why not be satisfied with Squash? The game that is. I'm not suggesting soft vegetables are sport. Unless you include Marrow.

Good lord. I have been uber stepmother all weekend and now both children are either in bed or returned and DH is out of the house. I use this as an excuse for my gibberish. First 10 mins alone in 3 days.

BTW, watched Pan's Labyrinth last night. Except for last half hour so don't tell me what happens. What an amazing film. The stuttering guy is my BIL's doppelganger.

Blither blither

Although have never endured the joys of SPD, To Bath and back on a bike has a similar effect on the crothchular region.

DH not impressed when it kicked in 3 days after the Epic Journey and although hands had healed enough to consider bedroom frolics I then pulled bruised pubic bone out of the excuse bag. Poor boy.

Oh No poor ,poor Franny
That seems very extreme
Oh God poor things.

Guad please give my love
is there any more news?

have just come back from seeing dh's friends
They have the most beautiful 7m ds
I have been in tears & dh says I am too quick to judge people by my standards,am a snob & obsessive.
He is going to nursery from 8-6 every day
He is very 'independent' as he likes to sit & watch the disney channel & doesn't make a peep
Has sugar added to his formula
Had deep fried frozen bubble & squeak for his tea with chocolate mousse afterwards.
Doesn't sleep in the day...is difficult & cries for hours at bedtime

Maybe dh is right & I am horridly judgemental...but I hated hearing the mother say she found returning to work a huge relief & that she dreads w/es.I wanted to scoop him up & run

ignore me
i am horribly broody

I dont understand the no co sleeping or having to have formula...hope it can be expressed.

Ds contracted Rotavirus in hospital & it took them till he was 7 weeks to diagnose
I refused to stay in tho

Lully, that sound sawful (friends I mean).

I owuld be judgey then too, and I am quite lax with many htings

Friends' sons party so veg tarts, veg pizza
strawberries
scones with strawberries
apple
more strawberries

Oh no poor F and co...

I am sure they would get her to express and cup feed if that was possible - and why wouldn;t it be? They have those industrial strength milking machines.

God I hope they are OK.

Idris

That sounds very impressive. Sorry it has made SPD twingey though. I'm sure it will be shortlived.

LL it can be difficult when friends don;t share the same parenting views as you and that sounds particularly awful

I have never heard of people putting sugar in formula

I did have a friend who I witnessed putting coca cola in her childrens' bottles (they were not babies, about 2.5 & 4)...I have since dropped contact for various reasons I'm afraid.

Idris - well done you! Tremendous effort! i wish I could run but I have arthritis in me kneess..

I am slightly worried about first day of school hols tomorrow as we have been away 3 weekends running, the house is chaos, I am knackered and the children have Made Plans....

Lully, I'd be judgy too if it's any consolation.

I feel a little PMTish today and though my boys are universally agreed to be lovely, and intelligent and polite, I still feel I have f*d up sometimes, especially wth the food thing. And the fact that they are so clingy to me still, even though I am quite lax in my parenting.
We had friends on the boat with us - and I couldn't help noticing how better disciplined her boys were and how non-picky with food. sigh.

Wow Idris that's fantastic!

I can't stop thinking about Franny & co...

(((Hugs))) all round tonight

Well done Idris!

Lully, that does sound Could she (the mother, I mean) maybe have unrecognised PND? The thing about dreading weekends and the way she (quite clearly) minimises interaction seems a bit (for want of a better word) pathological iyswim.

Just wanted to say thank you again people for being so undeservedly nice to me yesterday. I still feel quite sad and tired but am out of the bog of snot and tears. I have talked to my dearest friend on the phone - her unwavering love and support always knocks me over - and been to the botanic garden and ds1 has been tired today and rather overwhelming in his demands for 'mama milk' and it is all very reassuring in fact as now I can see a bit more clearly I do know I have produced at least one securely attached child (ds2 a bit young to tell as yet but certainly still very securely attached to my breast ). I am a bit shit in some areas but really very good in others and I do do my best.

Btw I withdrew the post further up as I felt it to be a bit too identifying. still live in slight terror of my parents stumbling on here.

FMV do you have time off work during the summer hols? Do you want to do something sometime?

Further up? Further down. I do use MN Classic, you know.

Yes, I do hope F + L are bearing up. It is a lonely thing, a neo-natal unit on a Sunday night fresh after admission.

oh yes Tatties! - we went ot railway museum the other week (spur of the moment!) and I wished you were there too!
I am off work on mondays and have 2 weeksa off in mid august.
When do you go further north?

Hey bero glad you are feeling a bit lighter

lully, if you still looking for cornwall place, here is a useful website

Just checking in for news really.

Dd2 just had a G+T moment. She was sitting on my lap holding a calculator and asking how to spell poo. I said, a touch irritably, that you can't write poo on a calculator because it has numbers, not letters.
A moment later, she'd typed 400 and was waving it at me, saying, "Does this say poo?"

Fmv - thank you for the nutrition stuff
I am hoping to come up with a really simple iron package that I can just eat every day without thinking too hard.

Lully, I will be judgey with you. Poor little soul.

Idris - well done!!!

OB - hello

Tatties - hello

Littlerach - hello