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Macular degeneration

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PerkyOchrePeer · 23/11/2025 01:32

I've had mavular degeneration for a few years and it's the dry kind. I usually have my eyes scared so they can see the back of the eye and see how it's progressing. At my usual routine eye test the usual optometrist was not available so I saw someone else. The person I saw said do you want your eyes scanned? I was shocked because I thought it was routine. I said yes and said if we dont scan my eyes how can we see if the disease has worsened or how much macular has developed and she said I won't do it if you say no. I dont like this attitude. I dont want to see this optometrist again. I was told she has been at the practice for 30 years. That doesn't mean she's good. No other optometrist has given me the option of having the scan.its like going to the dentist and being given the option of an xray. A mouth xray can pick up things that the naked eye cannot and so is essential.

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SleafordSods · 26/11/2025 17:26

PerkyOchrePeer · 26/11/2025 02:03

What is this about

It was a TV program about the developments being made to help people with sight loss cope. So he looked at things like AI and driverless cars.

It was a bit like the old TV show Tomorrow’s World but everything shown could be used to help you navigate an aspect of life of you can’t see very well.

It’s on the iPlayer now Smile

SleafordSods · 26/11/2025 17:27

thatoldchestnut · 26/11/2025 02:35

I agree everyone with macular degeneration should have a OCT scan, but as this involves a cost outside of hospitals the optometrist has to ask you .

The OCT scan is a major advance in macular degeneration monitoring. You should be self monitoring with an Amsler Grid one eye covered once a week (or you can just check the straight line of a picture frame as an alternative).
The problem as you have said is dry macular degeneration can turn wet.
So dry is like a worn rug with fraying and gaps in the pattern, but wet is having a burst pipe below and as the rug is so worn it comes through and causes sudden damage. If this happens you would normally get a sudden change in vision or distortion (hence checking straight lines to self monitor) , but this can be missed if you are not checking one eye then the other or if the leak is small initially.

The OCT scan is pretty definitive if the macula degeneration is wet or dry like an X ray for tooth decay. If you wait for the decay to show on the surface of the tooth by looking at it the damage is more as it has already progressed. With the OCT scan you don’t need pupil dilation as you are looking below the rug in the centre of the room not into the corners of the room by opening the door wide (dilating the pupil).
You only need to have OCT scans at hospital if there is a concern about wet changes as only wet can be treated and dry just needs regular optician checks with self monitoring and opticians can’t refer to a hospital for dry macula degeneration as they don’t have capacity to see everyone there. You may have been referred initially if you were younger than the average age to develop macula degeneration as sometimes other macula dystrophies or damage from other causes apart from ageing can mimic it.
Retinitis Pigmentosa is monitored by Moorfields as a more unusual condition with potentially severe impact causing tunnel vision as you said, but patients if stable still get discharged to optometrist only checks.

As long as you understand about self monitoring between annual appointments and reporting any change and pay for annual OCT scans then you are being correctly assessed.

That is an excellent description @thatoldchestnutSmile

thatoldchestnut · 26/11/2025 19:26

@PerkyOchrePeer For the grid test you are looking for a change from your normal. So even with dry there can slightly irregular lines (particularly if you are doing it without glasses so have uncorrected astigmatism) and the macula in one eye can be more affected than the other.
The grid is most useful when you have looked at what your normal is -having had a recent OCT scan that excludes wet changes. Then check once a week for if something looks different- so central
blurriness or changes in the amount or position of any wavy lines .
If it does look different with one eye then book and have another eye test with OCT scan within a week.
Have a look at the macular society and sign up to their newsletter/webinars. It’s always best to know what to look out for and be able to get the most from your optometrist appointments . It’s the communication that really matters at medical appointments so you feel you know what is being done and why.

How is macular disease diagnosed?

https://www.macularsociety.org/diagnosis-treatment/how

PerkyOchrePeer · 26/11/2025 20:40

Macular degeneration runs in my dads side of my family my dad had it and two of his sisters had it. No idea where they inherited it from because their mother never had it and their father died when they were kids and as far as I know my dad nor his sisters never wanted to know who they picked it up from. As far as I know they just got on with their lives knowing they had this ege disease. I know I picked it up from my dad because he was diagnosed with it and my mum wasnt. Having said that I know a lady who in her 70s and her sister has the wet macular and she hasn't got it. Mind you, she could still get it be ause my dad was 80 when he was diagnosed

One of the things the optomertrist asked me when I saw her was do you drive. Considering I have macular degeneration it was a silly question because it would be dangerous to drive with distorted vision even though my vision isn't that bad when walking down the street etc but the DVLA would ban someone with mac degeneration as they could not accurately read road signs

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ginoclocksomewhere · 27/11/2025 19:45

Asking about driving is part of normal history & symptoms questions.

It’s not uncommon for people with AMD to drive, it very much depends on the severity, and even it is IS severe enough that the vision does not meet DVLA standards, I can assure you that almost every Optometrist I know has had a conversation with a patient about the fact that they shouldn’t be driving, even though they’ve no doubt been told before.

PerkyOchrePeer · 27/11/2025 20:12

ginoclocksomewhere · 27/11/2025 19:45

Asking about driving is part of normal history & symptoms questions.

It’s not uncommon for people with AMD to drive, it very much depends on the severity, and even it is IS severe enough that the vision does not meet DVLA standards, I can assure you that almost every Optometrist I know has had a conversation with a patient about the fact that they shouldn’t be driving, even though they’ve no doubt been told before.

Ny eyesight has got slightly worse over the last month the nacular has increases slightly but I can still see well enough to see people etc. Im getting quite scared when I read about the actress judi dench who has macular degeneration and hers is now so bad she cannot see people anymore. I used to be so laid back but now I am petrified. O was told by someone nit to compare myself to others my issue is that whatever I have wrong I look at others with the same thing who are worse abd assume I will end up like them. This is not a healthy state of mind

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AnnaQuayInTheUk · 27/11/2025 20:15

Georgiepud · 23/11/2025 08:43

You say it was her attitude that put you off, not actually the scan.

I experienced the same with a very haughty optometrist. Where are they all coming from with their poor interpersonal skills?

Another time I'll be driving 20 miles to the next town for my test.

You really shouldn't do that. The leaflet you get in advance of the scan says you mustn't drive for 4 hours afterwards

PerkyOchrePeer · 28/11/2025 02:27

Why do people who have no idea about macular degeneration think the answer is just get stronger glasses. I use a magnifier and needed stronger reading glasses but also at magnifier as they dont make glassed the same strength as the magnifyer

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LeapingTofu · 28/11/2025 02:30

PerkyOchrePeer · 23/11/2025 03:37

Do you think an eye scan should be optional? I've never been given the option before

It usually costs a little more and legally you have to be asked to consent.

PerkyOchrePeer · 28/11/2025 02:47

LeapingTofu · 28/11/2025 02:30

It usually costs a little more and legally you have to be asked to consent.

When you phone the optician to make the appointment they usually ask then. I usually have the receptionist ask. At my recent appointment she asked and I said yes. On the day of the appointment the ootomertrist asked the same question. A few years ago when I was going to spectators, the optomertrist said he was giving me a scan. He did not give me the option so I just assumed that if you have an eye disease these scans are essential and not an option and that was why I was surprised when the optomertrist asked if I wanted it.

Its like going to the dentist and not having an xray because an xray can pick up things that can't be seen with the naked eye and ive always had an xray and never been asked if I want one.

I am a bit suspicious of ootomertrists who ask if you want the scan. Its not an option abd I sorry but I dont want to see an optomertrist who asks if I want the scan. So I won't be seeing this woman again

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PerkyOchrePeer · 28/11/2025 02:55

My usual optomertrist was booked until January and that's the only reason I saw someone else I was told if I want the usual optomertrist I have to book 2 months ahead as she is very popular and the readkn is because she is extremely good. Its just not worth paying to see someone who is mediocre. They are my eyes and I am entitled to see someone I trust and I dont trust the woman I saw

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BooneyBeautiful · 28/11/2025 03:01

SleafordSods · 23/11/2025 08:43

I’m another who thinks that they were just asking you for consent, nothing really to worry about at all.

If he more concerned that you’ve never been referred to the Eye Clinic at the Hospital.

You could talk about your treatment options wirh the Macular Society and there is also an excellent FB group called Macular Matters where you’ll find support and information Smile

I have had AMD (dry) for about eight years. It's not usual to be referred to the eye clinic unless you start seeing wavy lines on the Amsler chart, then that becomes an emergency. Mine has been stable until this year when more drusen was discovered at my annual eye test. One of the things that bothers me is the poor facial recognition which is a nuisance. I often end up not recognising people I know well until they are very close to me, or waving to complete strangers!

BooneyBeautiful · 28/11/2025 03:06

PerkyOchrePeer · 23/11/2025 22:17

I used to take a form of liten and can't remember what they were. I got them on prescription but then they were taken off and you had to buy them. They were very expensive and I didn't feel they did much good so stopoed

Most opticians recommend taking Macushield. You won't really know if it's working or not, but it should certainly help to slow down any progression. Dame Judi Dench has lost pretty much all of her central vision now and has to learn her lines via audio which she really struggles to do.

PerkyOchrePeer · 28/11/2025 03:30

BooneyBeautiful · 28/11/2025 03:01

I have had AMD (dry) for about eight years. It's not usual to be referred to the eye clinic unless you start seeing wavy lines on the Amsler chart, then that becomes an emergency. Mine has been stable until this year when more drusen was discovered at my annual eye test. One of the things that bothers me is the poor facial recognition which is a nuisance. I often end up not recognising people I know well until they are very close to me, or waving to complete strangers!

Wow ive had dry AMD for more than 8 years and have never had issues recognising people. Are you sure you dont have the wet

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PerkyOchrePeer · 28/11/2025 03:33

As for judi dench she is now almost blind

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BooneyBeautiful · 28/11/2025 13:45

PerkyOchrePeer · 28/11/2025 03:30

Wow ive had dry AMD for more than 8 years and have never had issues recognising people. Are you sure you dont have the wet

100%. It's definitely dry. It's well-known that it can affect facial recognition. Yours might not be as bad as mine.

BooneyBeautiful · 28/11/2025 13:46

PerkyOchrePeer · 28/11/2025 03:33

As for judi dench she is now almost blind

She still has her peripheral vision, it's just that her central vision has gone due to the AMD.

ginoclocksomewhere · 28/11/2025 15:44

The Opticians Act defines what MUST be included within an eye examination (and even those things, you just gain explicit consent for). It is absolutely not correct (nor ethical) to assume that somebody wants extra tests which are chargeable, regardless of their eye health.

That being said, there are optometrists that will.

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