If you've had your lips plumped ...

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.... Are you sending a subliminal message? If so, what's the message and who's it aimed at?

Thread is inspired by the recent sight of a young woman with a huge trout pout, her lips were so puffed up she couldn't talk normally.

Why do people do this?

How can you possibly, possibly know this?

If you didn't know what someone's lips looked like before?

My lips are a bit wonky because I have some scarring from an accident, I get filler to even them out and add a bit more fullness to my top lip.

I like the way they look, my husband likes the way they look, that is the extent of the message. I'm not trying to send a subliminal message out into the world that I love sucking dick or anything. I just wanted an even smile and a slightly fuller upper lip. It's really no deeper than that.

I do wonder why so many women on here obsess about the enhancements other women choose to get, and are so so nasty about it too, that kind of vitriol doesn't come from curiosity alone. Like I cannot imagine being angry about someone else's body. What's that rooted in?

So why do you care OP? What difference does it make why someone did something to their own face?

I do wonder why so many women on here obsess about the enhancements other women choose to get, and are so so nasty about it too, that kind of vitriol doesn't come from curiosity alone.

Because society doesn't exist in a vacuum

How would you know? If it wasn't noticeable you wouldn't notice it would you?

Exactly what I just said.
I see this all the time on threads about lip enhancement. I am sure people are being thick on purpose.

If you didn't know what someone's lips looked like before?

I don't agree it's always noticeable but equally you can often tell on a stranger when their face is in motion.

This is an easy one to answer.
Both men and women sometimes choose to make themselves look different.
Some men and women have decided that they would like to use injectable treatments to look different.
Some men and women like the way they look when they decide to look different.

In addition to this, some men and women choose to also use injectables to have a better effect than drinking more water, exercising more, using x face cream, wearing lipstick, wearing tinted moisturiser, getting a tan or [insert your approved looking better treatment here].

It's not always noticeable, you just choose to focus on the ones that are.

I heard two blokes talking about a woman who was very cosmically 'enhanced'... quite botched looking fillers / massive boobs etc...

They were laughing that any woman who would do that to themselves would let a man do anything they wanted and treat them anyway they wanted.

It made me very uncomfortable.

But how would you know if you couldn't tell when their 'face were in motion'?

I don't think it is like Botox where, a face wouldn't move when it would usually.

Lips move all of the time. I can't see how mine being slightly fuller than normal would look any different to if I hadn't ever had them enhanced. They just look slightly bigger than they did before, but nobody who knows me has ever commented when I first had it done, let alone strangers who didn't know what my face looked like beforehand.

Lip filler people always argue it’s unnoticeable. They can’t see themselves from the side.

'A status symbol'. Funniest thing I've read on here in ages. If it is really noticeable, it screams chav.

Well, that’s on the men @eqpi4t2hbsnktd. Their view of that connection is their own misogyny. Woman has procedure equalling woman is ‘easy’ equalling woman is bad is in their head not reality.

We know this look originated from pornography. From a feminist point of view, I don’t think it’s a good thing that a porn based look is sold back to women as desirable and that it requires medical input with significant risks and huge cost. But I also don’t think a woman is wrong as an individual to perceive that desirability as something they want and to pay for it with their own money, and nor do I think that because this originated with porn (like lipstick, heels, push up bras) that a woman deserves to be placed in a different sexual category because of it.

@Cornflakegirl7 of course some
lip fillers are obvious to spot on a stranger, not everyone goes for the subtle look...

but nobody who knows me has ever commented when I first had it done, let alone strangers who didn't know what my face looked like beforehand.

Why would no comment mean it's not noticeable? I never commented on a colleagues lips until she brought it up.

These are mine last time I had them done. I would argue you would not know I had had filler, ever.

I have just uploaded a photo of mine. I honestly do not think that it is noticeable that I have them enhanced. They're very thin, always have been-It's just my face.
I feel more confident and dare I say, prettier, if I have them done. It is not a 'symbol' or 'message' or anything whatsoever else.

I didn’t know a colleague had had lip filler, and I didn’t guess until she told me.?I did find her lips really distracting, my eyes kept going to them, to the point that I felt relieved when she didn’t wear lipstick.

I think you have confused my posts @Cornflakegirl7. I disagreed with another poster that it's always noticeable....the OP referenced Pete Burns...

No, they really don’t. They can either have it or not have it and it all rests on whether they want to or not. I don’t want a wrinkly forehead, so I have Botox. It’s the only thing I have because it’s the only thing I want to have. Other than my hair doing of course, which seems to be perfectly acceptable!

I don’t know whether it’s always noticeable because as PP said, if you looked at someone who had had it done but you didn’t notice, you wouldn’t know that.

But what I do know is that for anyone who has ever told me they’ve had it done, I’ve never been surprised. But maybe people who go for the subtler filler are less likely to mention it, and therefore I’ve never noticed or been told. I think it’s the side profile that often looks off, and different to anyone with naturally full lips.

When people defend themselves and say ‘I have it but it’s not noticeable at all’, then why have you bothered getting it at all if literally it looks the same as before?! That makes no sense.

Well there is a difference between “it looks different to before” and “it looks obviously fake”. You could dye your hair in a way that obviously people who saw it before would notice, but people who didn’t might think it was natural and you’d describe that as “not noticeably dyed”.

How sneery OP. Do you feel good about yourself now?

Behave yourself. It's not sneery. Jog on If you have no answer

I think because they don’t look fuller, they always stick out, forward, like a shelf.

Often there’s a puncture mark where the needles gone in.

I’ll bite OP. It’s because the overinflated lips look like labia and therefore sends the subliminal signal that they are sexually attractive.

do I win?