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Looking for a circumcision doctor

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Jaqchic · 20/01/2005 13:13

Can anyone recommend a private doctor in the London area who has performed a (male) circumsion for them? I don't want to get into a debate about the whys and wherefores of circumcision, but I am trying to find a reliable and reputable doctor with experience in this area. I don't care if they are a mohel or muslim practioner or non religious but I am looking for a doctor who will perform this in a proper surgical setting, not someone to come and do it in my home.

Thanks.

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Ameriscot2005 · 21/01/2005 12:54

Hola, Expat! Another M'netter that I've met in real life! (that makes 3)

Toothache · 21/01/2005 13:01

.... Generally try to stay out of this kind of thing now.... but..... I'm with you StuartC.

HappyMumof2 · 21/01/2005 13:15

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morningpaper · 21/01/2005 13:26

My brother ripped his foreskin when shagging when drunk, and nearly bled to death because he was too hammered to realise how bad it was.

A similar thing happened to my DH a few years ago - he had to have an operation to fix it.

A best friend of mine has never recovered from the trauma of being circumcised when he was 7.

My friend got her baby circumcised because her DH's husband's family were all circumcised and although wasn't a practising/believing Jew, his family considered themselves Jewish.

So there may be other reasons for people to think about it.

morningpaper · 21/01/2005 13:26

That's not to say that I'm in favour of non-medical circumcision myself, but I can see that there are reasons why people might consider it.

Uwila · 21/01/2005 14:43

Jac is right. She was looking for help on finding a doctor. And people have joined (uninvited) to tell her she is wrong. Just because you ask a question of other mners doesn't give othere the right to some to say any nasty insult that comes to mind.

Posting a question on a topic with which you happen to disagree does not give you the right to throw common courtesy out the door.

Jac, my first thread here wen horribly wrong. You have to take the nastiness with a grain of salt sometimes. There are lots of good people/comversations/information on here. Hope you stay.

Uwila · 21/01/2005 14:44

OMG, good thing I don't need to be a typist to make a living.

MrsFogi · 21/01/2005 14:47

Happymumof2 - there is a massive difference between female and male circumcision. One is considered contrary to human rights and is more accurately known as genital mutilation whereas the other is generally accepted (although clearly from this tread there are differing opinions as to whether people would actually have the op for their dss or not).

StuartC · 21/01/2005 15:37

Perhaps we could all agree on a package -

non-consensual female circumcision is OK because it is widely practised in many parts of the world, for many people it is part of their customary habits or religion
non-consensual hysterectomy of pubescent girls is OK because it will avoid many cancers
non-consensual breast enlargement of pubescent girls is OK because it looks better to daddy
non-consensual limb amputation of children is OK in case they ever have an accident and bleed to death.

Anybody agree? I thought not.

All these arguments have been used on this or other threads to justify male genital mutilation.
I've no problem with male circumcision - if the male is old enough to decide for himself.
Am I interfering on a thread which did not invite a morality discussion - of course I am. When you hear of a wrongdoing you don't keep silent.

Toothache · 21/01/2005 15:40

This is an open forum.... as far as I know you don't need an invitation to post. Hurrrrumph!

paolosgirl · 21/01/2005 15:46

Also with you StuartC....although I respect other peoples religions, I have grave reservations about inflicting unnecessary surgery on children who can't decide for themselves. I'm not talking about circumcision per se, but the wider issue of childrens rights.

weightwatchingwaterwitch · 21/01/2005 15:52

I agree paolosgirl. I don't think it's surprising if you get comments about circumcision having asked where you can get it done. Saying you don't want a discussion about the rights and wrongs doesn't mean you won't get one! Hey, that's a forum for you.

starlover · 21/01/2005 16:00

well, none of you know jaqchic's reason's for wanting a circumcision doctor, so you can't really judge her for it.

as the piece at the top of mumsnet says :
" Please bear in mind that issues to do with raising children can be very sensitive and that everyone has the right to make their own choices when it comes to bringing up their kids."

just bear that in mind.
No, no-one can stop people having a debate on here.. but do think about other people's feelings and possible reasons for posting. Jaqchic quite rightly expected this to happen, and did request that it not be turned into a debate on why's and wherefore's... so maybe if you want a debate you should start one somewhere else?
just a suggestion.

There are many reasons, as have already been discussed, for male circumcision, and the pro's and con's... but i don't think you can say it is "wrong" simply because you see it as unnecessary... the 2 are not inextricably linked

galaxy · 21/01/2005 16:02

But then start another thread on the point you want to discuss. Don't muddy the original poster's thread asking for information with your personal opinions/accusations.

secur · 21/01/2005 16:03

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paolosgirl · 21/01/2005 16:06

I take your point galaxy, but I think when it's a topis like this that affects children, and they have no say, then it can be hard to ignore, rightly or wrongly.

lockets · 21/01/2005 16:06

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Uwila · 21/01/2005 16:11

Perhaps this is useful, Jac:

www.circumcision-agency.com/infants_young_boys.html

secur · 21/01/2005 16:13

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Uwila · 21/01/2005 16:14

Discussing whether circumsision is ethical or not is off the topic of this thread. I notice JAc hasn't been back. Do you guys feel you have done mumsnet any justice? She came here for help, and she was treated poorly. She does have a right to circumsise her son, whether any of us like it or not. If it bothers you, then find another thread on which to vent.

But, don't beat Jac up over it.

morningpaper · 21/01/2005 16:16

Secur, they ARE fundamentally different - there is no such things as 'female circumcision' there is only female genital mutilation, as has already been pointed out. It is universally condemned by human rights groups and is illegal in most parts of the world. The most severe forms involves the removal of the clitoris, the labia and the sewing together of the vagina - "this healed surface must be cut or ripped open for intercourse or childbirth." See Wikipedia for more information.

Female circumcision is largely carried out to reduce women's sexual pleasure and extreme forms result in all sexual encounters being extremely painful and without any possibility of pleasure or fulfillment.

Male circumcision has been carried out for generations in certain cultures originally (it is thought) for health reasons in countries where access to clean water for washing was impossible for long periods of time. It is generally agreed that it does not affect a male's sexual pleasure or function, or have any long-term effects, and may indeed have some long-term benefits (from what I remember, women partners of circumcised men are less likely to get cervical cancer, for example). However, it is also generally agreed that it is no longer acceptable to perform a circumcision on men for non-religous or non-medical reasons - because it is unecessary.

To say the practices are the same is to completely misunderstand the procedures.

secur · 21/01/2005 16:18

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