It's my parsley and I'll cry if I want to - 10/10 thread. All welcome!

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morning all it was lovely

Toot I don't exactly have advice in the way 100 does but I want to empathise as my son was so similar, and someone put the finger on it when they said it's the balance between bolstering and coming down hard.

I think the behaviour comes from having such low self-esteem that you lose that ability to empathise with what it feels like to be hurt, and you just don't care so you lash out. So simply punishing the aggression can never work, it's just a symptom.

I spent too long being unable to cope and veering from one management strategy to another and I would say what you need is consistency above all things. Other people have said it but -- it's so simple and it's so true. If you're not consistent, then on top of all the other issues they don't know if they're coming or going with their parents and it just makes everything last longer.

I don't know what you should do as I kinda muddled through but did you say somewhere that you are still having lovely times of talking and hugging? Because that's so important and that's the only thing that was consistent with me. Sometimes when he was being a little sod the only thing that stopped me from being physical was imagining him as he was as a baby, except now it was a hurt and unhappy baby. It sounds pathetic but it was so frustrating and the only thing I had left.

It still is frustrating sometimes, I have been in tears quite recently about my parenting "skills". But things can improve more quickly than you might think. My son is now 12 and for a year has had much more self-control .. he is actually able to do the deep breathing and walk away even when his siblings are being highly annoying. I mean, sometimes he doesn't do it, but it does it 90 pc of the time.

What I mean to say is, you are so close to the issue right now it feels like you might not find a path out, but I know you will and I want to send a big hug to your son. And to you of course Toot. I hope you have a lovely Sunday x

Bero -- it was knock out !

hope everyone else thinks so.. who knows

Fran I am SURE your ds is not frightened of you, sure of it. My dh is a pretty hands on Dad and I have the same thing. Sometimes when I "send" him to sort something out, what do I hear but said dh joining in the argument and the bickering just continuing but with an extra person! I have to say, take a step back, you're the Dad. Is your DH quite hands on and new mannish? If so then I am sure it's a symptom of that. Mine tries to negotiate, be fair, talk things through -- but all the time getting frustrated and then suddenly losing patience because he thinks he's done everything right and it's STILL not working. Got to go for children x

Toot and Fran -- hope I haven't made wrong assumptions.

Sorry to hijack.

MrsCarrot I've been thinking about books and Jerome K Jerome's Three Men In A Boat came to mind.

It's gentle humour and descriptions of falling in the river, getting lost in a maze and arguing with swans really was a lovely read.

'Change of scene, and abscence of the necessity for thought, will restore the mental equilibrium'

Sorry, I didn't know where else to post this and didn't want to bump your other thread..not sure why.

Anyway, apologies again for butting in,

oh, by the way,

I'm eating pineapple as I type.

I am not sure what it is in connection with but 3 men in a boat is one of my favourites and extremely very funny

morning prolific veggers
glad to hear you getting lots of support TooT. I have no idea about 8 year old boys so will just pat and nod

banana, raisins, melon, grapes, strawberries
big portions too, I can't fit any more in the bowl
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I am just rereading a very funny book I liked and recently sent cod to cheer her up while she has gf

it is really really rude
I had forgotten and just remembered it as funny
god knows what she will think

Morning! Had raisins and seeds and nuts for bonus points.

With the 26 natural foods thing, would my whole wheat flakes count in my museli? Because even if they were just wheat they are still processed aren't they.

Hope people feel better about things will all the sharing and advice

It's a lovely day here and we're just going to go to the park.

pink would you now have wheat at some point later in the day anyway? eg bread, pasta?

avi never you mind! I have emailed her apologising for sending filth. It may have caused a relapse (it was sexy rather than really filthy but there was quite a lot of it, on rereading )

"would you NOT"
I meant so does it matter about the wheat flakes, because I bet you will have bread anyway

gf = glandular fever

boys have gone to party at farm
I am doing party entertainer job this afternoon
can I strap hot water bottle to fanjo while doing it do you think? it could be part of my costume

etch a sketch?

that thing where your pelvis comes apart slowly when pg
I can laugh about it now, ha ha, having had nervous breakdown with fear while you were away
it feels like bad fanjo pain - same as period
gets worse every time I do sports job or in fact go to work [gloom]

yes yes yes and your friend ended up on crutches, I know

I am seeing physio again tomorrow, it certainly does seem to be SPD but bizarrely does not hurt at night except first night it started which was what alerted me to it
but maybe I am just odd
anyway as I say physio tomorrow, last week they said I didn't have it then said I did
I was in a right state anyway so not really taking it all in

oh sorry about friend on crutches bit
was being sarky
everyone I mention it to says "oh my friend had it and was in a wheelchair"
hence me shitting myself
I am sorry you had it so badly, so did several other people on here and I am an old whinger as this is only v mild