Dear MNHQ why does this board exist?

[TalkinPeace]

Having the board encourages people to think that not vaccinating is a valid viewpoint.

What did I make up?

How do you know 100% that your kids had Rubella, bumbley? We're all dying to know.

Do you think we should introduce the CP vaccine, Bumbley? I 100% agree with you if so.

So given the evidence that it's done so well in reducing the incidence of Measles, Mumps and Rubella, why don't you support it, Bumbley?

Pots and kettles come to mind...

"It's strange that people are so worried about pregnant women being put at risk of rubella because someone decides to delay the vaccination but they don't pay to have the CP vaccine even though CP can be a risk to pregnant women too."

Well, for one thing the risk of foetal damage if the mother contracts chicken pox is 1% as opposed to 90% with rubella. If you want to learn more about this policy you should probably speak to an epidemiologist who specialises in this area.

However, I don't think it is at all strange that people in general follow the advice their doctors give them what with them being qualified and experienced.

onholiday - yes, they did. And? What has that got to do with asking the doctor ""should we be advising all pre-mmr babies to stay away away from pregnant women? Yours, onholidaybymistake." ? You've said that your doctor didn't tell you that. Why do you think mine would tell you something different?

That's not a jibe. It's a fact. Aly has made up that I am 'against the MMR'. Despite the fact that I said there was nothing wrong with it earlier...

merry, 90% up to 10 weeks.

Yes. If you have concerns about the ins and outs of chicken pox vaccines and whether you should be vaccinated, contact your GP.

? You said you don't agree with giving the MMR to 15 month olds...in fact you don't seem to think we should vaccinate against Mumps at all. You also said you didn't see why they had to all be given in the same vaccine. Pulling those statements together it seems pretty clear you are against MMR. Have I misrepresented your views? Please do correct me if so!

It's not something I need to consider. I just thought it might be something you were worried about because of the potential risk to pregnant women who may not be immune.

Yes, you have misrepresented them. I am not 'against' the MMR.

Sorry, your repeated questions gave the impression that you were concerned about chicken pox.

I was under the impression that you were worried about the risk of diseases in non-immune pregnant women. I didn't realise it was only diseases that are on the NHS schedule that you worried about.

NHS vaccine* schedule

Not being an epidemiologist, the NHS schedule is as good a point as any.

It certainly doesn't make sense to argue that because chicken pox isn't a standard childhood vaccination in the uk, you might as well risk giving a pregnant woman rubella.

I suspect you will now argue that that wasn't your point, but really the point you are trying to make isn't clear at all.

As good a starting point as any

So which age groups do you think should have the MMR?

I know you don't think it's good for 15 month olds.

And you don't seem keen on Mumps vaccination at all. Am I wrong about that?

Bumbley. I wanted to know what your blasé doctor said when you presented your children with definite rubella to him/her. It's quite a straightforward question. What did your blasé doctor say about your rubella infected children and contact with others? Anything? Nothing?

I don't expect you'll tell me.

oneholida - your post from 13.56

"Could we ask your blasé doctor then?

Dear blasé doctor, should we be advising all pre-mmr babies to stay away away from pregnant women? Yours, onholidaybymistake."

no, merry, not arguing that point. :) Just wondering why you would be concerned about non-immune pregnant women for one disease but not another.

As people have pointed out Bumbley, Rubella is far more dangerous to the unborn than Chickenpox is.

But I agree with vaccinations for both.

Yes bumbley, and what did he/she say? Obv theres not a lot that can be done with regard to babies who haven't been vaccinated yet - except aim to have as many of the population vaccinated on schedule as possible to keep herd immunity up, and stop the circulation of the diseases.

But what did your doctor say when presented with 2 babies with definite rubella about contact with others? Anything? Nothing?

(Why don't you want to tell me? )

I hope you rang ahead too. From the NHS website:

"When to see your GP
You should always contact your GP if you suspect that you or your child has rubella.
Do not visit your GP surgery without phoning first, as arrangements may need to be made to reduce the risk of infecting others."

"Obv theres not a lot that can be done with regard to babies who haven't been vaccinated yet"

Exactly so why did you want to ask my doctor this?

"Dear blasé doctor, should we be advising all pre-mmr babies to stay away away from pregnant women? Yours, onholidaybymistake."?

Yep, definitely a very familiar posting style. :)

No need to make snide remarks and accusations Bumbley, we're all adults here.

No snide remarks/accusations made. :)

Because you asked me whether I kept my children away from pregnant women before they had mmr. It was a stupid question, clearly intended to be a wind up - So I wondered if you wanted to ask your blasé doctor about it for me?

In the meantime I asked you what your blasé doctor told you about your infectious and definitely infected by rubella children, and contact with others. Nothing? Anything?

I'm very suspicious as to why you won't answer this question.

"Yep, definitely a very familiar posting style. "

Oh sorry Bumbley, what were you trying to imply with this post?