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Are you bananas for bananas? 10 / 10 club week whatever it is

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FrannyandZooey · 23/10/2006 08:39

For anyone who wants a boost to their general health. The suggested goals are:

EAT 10 PORTIONS OF FRUIT AND VEGETABLES EVERY DAY

(if you don't usually eat much fruit and veg I would build up gradually or you could upset your digestion)

DO (AT LEAST) 10 MINUTES OF EXERCISE EVERY DAY

(can be yoga, stretching or something more energetic. The plan is that the idea of doing 10 minutes is not too daunting, and having started you may well find you want to do more)

There are no restrictions on what you eat so long as you get your 10 fruit and veg as well. The focus is not on weight loss but on improving our energy levels and hopefully our general mood and well-being.

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beegeebanger · 03/11/2006 20:53

Sorry - that was for Frannys immune system

FrannyonFire · 03/11/2006 21:19

Tatties

seven years on Sunday here too

and bizarrely, also for the couple we are going to dinner with. Must have been one hell of a night that night

beegeebanger · 03/11/2006 21:22

Congrats to you anniversary chicks. Have lovely times this weekend.

SweetandTenderTatties · 03/11/2006 21:57

Franny, nooooo!

How bizarre!

We always have a laugh about making our own fireworks

Let it not be said the unmarrieds among us are not romantic

FrannyonFire · 03/11/2006 22:00

Isn't it bizarre? And the friends we are seeing are actually married, but prefer to celebrate the day they got together, ie Nov 5th 1999

It's also my Mum's birthday but this could get silly so I will stop now

SweetandTenderTatties · 03/11/2006 22:28

Well have a lovely meal Franny, do have a drink for me

I would love to go out for a meal with dp but I can't really leave ds

FrannyonFire · 04/11/2006 07:26

Ah, we have only just got to the stage of being able to both go out in the evening. In fact this is the first time and ds is sliiiiiightly wobbly about it (wavers between "Oh when is Sarah (babysitter) coming, I can't wait to see her?" and waking up at 6 am crying "Mummy I don't want Sarah to come because I love you the best"). But I think it will be fine.

Hope you have a good day too, can you grab a bit of time together when ds is in bed?

FillyjonkTheFireEater · 04/11/2006 09:12

[envious]

please take a sip of something restrained for me also

it is not our anniversary but by god we would not be going out even if it were

oh no thats a lie, dp is taking ds to the end of the road to watch the fireworks

how the mighty have fallen

FillyjonkTheFireEater · 04/11/2006 09:13

I mean

and all that bllx

PyroPaps · 04/11/2006 15:37

Excuse me for being particular, but as most of us have colds could you all cough into the crook of your arm than onto your hands. Its what they teach the kiddies at school in NZ these days

I ate persimon today and a large bowl of jewish chicken soup with vege, and yellow split pea soup with vege.

SweetandTenderTatties · 04/11/2006 16:32

Mmmm Paps I love yellow split pea soup. I made a vegetable soup last night and will be having leftovers tonight.

Franny I reckon we'll have to wait another couple of years before we get a night out together then! Couldn't even go out on my own atm I don't think, never mind as a couple... I was not in a good mood today, had to abandon a shoppping trip. Feeling very drained as ds is being even more velcro than usual...if I try to do anything for me, by myself it just doesn't work

PyroPaps · 04/11/2006 16:50

cool tatties, I will share mine if you will share yours

not now though as must go lie in the bath and steam with the babes

Was off out to a bonfire party but am feeling too tired and sick, bummer really. Went out last night so all is not lost!

FrannyonFire · 04/11/2006 18:16

Tatties how old is ds? I didn't really have any life till recently, it's only now I can do stuff.

Paps I do hope you feel better, and all the other poorly people...

SweetandTenderTatties · 04/11/2006 20:49

Franny he is 19mo. I feel upset now for getting wound up about this. I always do! He just wants to feed all the time. Generally I'm fine with it, but it's just sometimes I want to do something, and I can't, it all feels so intense, then I get wound up... He is just really dependent on me. He can't help it, and I know it won't be like this forever, but it is hard sometimes!

Paps I would love your split pea soup recipe I will find mine and post later.

FrannyonFire · 04/11/2006 20:59

It is really intense. It really is. Age 1 to 2 is the most challenging for breastfeeding I think, or maybe even 1.5 to 2.5 IME

Have you read "Mothering Your Nursing Toddler"? I found it so reassuring and affirming, and I lent it to another MNer recently who also got a lot from it. I would be happy to lend it to you if you think it would help.

It doesn't seem like it will ever pass, but it does, and my god it pays off to have met their needs as much as you could at the time. Do you get any help, is there anyone else who can look after ds for an hour or two? Or if it has to be you all the time, can you get more help with other things, like cooking etc, or arrange things differently so you have less work to do? (bulk cook, shop online, let the house get dirty, etc?)

aviatreason · 04/11/2006 21:32

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SweetandTenderTatties · 04/11/2006 22:10

5{anny. I have just read Mothering your Nursing Toddler, actually, found it really good. I am always looking for encouraging books to read! I know I'm doing the right thing for him. I suppose there's a clash between that and how it makes me feel sometimes - not always warm and fuzzy. But there's never any question of doing anything else. And most of the time he is delightful - this week he has worked out how to say,"milk, again!"

I think it would really help if someone could take him for an hour or two every now and again. But there isn't, has to be me all the time. I try not to stress too much about the housework though... Franny if you don't mind me asking, how is bf for you now?

SweetandTenderTatties · 04/11/2006 22:12

Sorry that should read thank you Franny at the beginning. Looked fine in preview

FrannyonFire · 05/11/2006 08:10

I don't think anyone minds us going off topic, Tatties (well bad luck if they do, really). I'll start another thread tomorrow so this one doesn't get too long...

Erm, yes, I know what you mean. You know it's the right thing to do, and what you want to do, but it doesn't always feel lovely and relaxing and rewarding, in fact sometimes it is bloody annoying and you want to scream. or run out of the house with your passport and a clean pair of pants.

I am glad you read the book, do you have an LLL group near you? I found their meetings quite useful at this age - nice to sit in a room where extended feeding / co-sleeping etc is accepted as the norm.

I am at the stage now where ds only feeds at naptime and bedtime, which is fab, and in theory I am happy to keep that up for as long as he wants (might have a psychological problem with feeding a 4 year old, though ). He also doesn't mind if someone else puts him to bed - (well, dp, and a babysitter for the first time tonight as I said) and doesn't ask for milk. We went through a stage where he would have milk in a bottle if I was not there at naptime! Bit odd to introduce a bottle age 2.5 but it worked for us.

I am not sure how we got from milk on demand, to milk only at bedtime. It sort of happened slowly. I helped it along by saying things like "If you have milk now there won't be so much at bedtime" (which is true when you are down to only a few feeds). The last one to go was the first thing in the morning one, which went on for ages and I really disliked. We changed our routine for a few days, so dp got him up and did something with him, instead of me getting into bed with him. When he did eventually ask after a few days, I said "oh no we don't usually have milk in the mornings, I don't think there is much milk there now. Let's go and get a carton of milk instead." (again true).

So why does it have to be you all the time? Because he is not happy with anyone else? Or because you don't know anyone else? With ds it was mostly the former, but it slowly slowly improved and it is very satisfying to know we have gone at his own pace and not left him when he was scared, or wanted us.

I also did find that sometimes when we tried him with a new person he would surprise us with how well he was able to cope. We can underestimate them at times. Also it is worth grooming friends with children, or teenagers you know, as great potential companions for him. It might not be too long before they seem like a very exciting alternative to Mummy. I wrote a bit about all this on cod's "weirdies who don't leave their children " thread recently.

Last but not least - the amount of extra cake you can eat while breastfeeding a hungry toddler is not to be underestimated

Right, hijack over.

Aviatrix you can certainly count chickpeas.

Hope everyone has a good Bonfire Night.

FrannyonFire · 05/11/2006 08:13

Blimey, long post. I also meant to say, the night time feeds fluctuated loads and were sometimes the hardest part, but they dwindled when he went into his own room aged 3. I tried gentle night time weaning from time to time but it made him desperately unhappy so we ditched it each time. Easier not to swim against the tide if you don't have to, IMO.

SweetandTenderTatties · 05/11/2006 14:09

Thank you so much Franny! It is really great to hear how things improve naturally.

I have recently started going to LLL meetings, which I am enjoying. You are right - it is just nice to sit in a room where bf is not an issue, and I don't have to keep distracting ds because I feel uncomfortable feeding him.

Ds is actually really good with other people, he is confident and sociable, and most of the time would happily go off with someone he knows. I could never leave him for more than a couple of hours though, as when he gets tired/fed up, there is only one thing he wants! So in theory, someone could take him for an hour or two, but I haven't got anyone close enough who is able to do it. In the evening he needs bf to fall asleep, and he usually wakes once or twice before dp and I go to bed - again only mummy will do then!

Like I say though, most of the time, I'm fine with it all, and find it much easier to go with the flow, especially because I can see how much he really needs it. But occasionally I get moments of self-doubt - have I made him like this, so dependent on me? But then at other times I can see that that's not the case at all - hopefully I'm helping him to build his confidence rather than taking it away.

Oh you are right about the cake too, I am the thinnest I have ever been

Happy anniversary and happy bonfire night - enjoy the fireworks

FillyjonkTheFireEater · 05/11/2006 15:15

have just noticed that a good percentage of the shattered extended bfs are also on this thread, trying desperately to eat lots of froot and veg.

SweetandTenderTatties · 05/11/2006 15:58

lol Filly, do we think it's going to make us feel better or something

FrannyonFire · 05/11/2006 16:02

Tatties, you have allowed him to be dependant on you, which is a natural and desirable state of affairs, instead of pushing him away and forcing him to become independent before he is ready.

Filly, blimey, there are a lot of us on here, aren't there?

FrannyonFire · 05/11/2006 16:03

And Tatties, maybe try to pal up with some LLL people in the hope of exchanging favours once in a while? 2 toddlers is not much harder work than one, not for an hour or two.