Fag Free Few................New Fresh Thread

[charliebat]

Hello

Hi IF!!

No not Welsh Boris. She is someone who I like enormously and wouldn't wish to exchange unpleasantries with. I did apologise to the mner at the time after failing to keep my gob shut and butt-ing in on something she was doing.

and big up you, Cagney (or are you Lacey?!. 3 months and N0000OOooo going back eh?

About to go find SEA so we may nag the feck out of her. She knows she wishes us to!

just put out an APB on SEA - that IS what you call it in U.S. police-speak is it not?

Has she checked in yet?

aw thanks! that's nice i'm off to a cockney knees up later!

Hmmm.....ok.........>

LOL how much of N AVOIDANCE WAS THAT???SO RRY ON DPS LAPTOP AND CANT CONTROL IT YET

She looked really sweet when I saw her at the meet-up, I reallly liked her. I kind of got the feeling that she might be a bit of a 'flapper' about things and that quitting would be a big deal as smoking might help with nerves. SEA, I might be totally wrong!

But if I'm right I'm guessing that she'll need us to coax her gently through quitting. She really does want to, she's just not reached that leaping into the void point.

I always thought thats stopping smoking was someting other people did. Before pleurisy.Dp ahd tryed to stop a few times, and it hadnt occured to me that maybe I should stop too.
It wasnt until my lungs started to die and I could feel the damage being done that I started my long long long journey to stopping. 2 days till2 year BTW

you're totally right about me imagineryfriend. i am a nervous fidget. i need to learn how to relax.

Evening SEA!

As Chaliecat will no doubt point out in a moment, the nicotine will ensure that you will not be able to relax. All it will do is ,temporarily, satisfy the nervous habit of having some nicotine!! One of Mr Carr's 'thinking traps' i.e. falsehoods that need exploding.

You deserve to be relaxed, and not to be 'edgy' and the first step to acheiving that would be to take away the source of some of the 'edginess' i.e. nicotine.

Have you had periods of success before, SEA? What led you back to nicotine again??

Yep, and I barely belive this myself but its true. I can now TRUELY chill.
Not that drug induced relaxation which is indeed just a fix till the nagging ache of needing to have more nicotine makes you have another...
A deeper chill. Because my brains not sussing when i can fit another smoke into the day.

my periods of success have lasted hours not days. i seem to have spent half my life propped up with the fags and booze. i really thought i would mellow with age and not be so reliant. i need therapy

I munched chewing gum ..like £15 quids worth in the first week...along the lines of...anything is better than smoking. But jeesus...thats a LOT of chewing gum

yep i was tempted by the gum in tesco, i think i'll need some sort of replacement or a fake cigarette type thing hehe! or i might try aversion therapy and smoke a whole pack in 10 mins like sophie anderton. my mind is on the right course honestly. actually your comment about my mum has sort of stuck with me. you should be a therapist cc!

Its true though, thats why she nagged you.

Therapy is a big word..IYSWIM!!

Hours of success still count SEA. It is a platform to build on. eg. stop for 3 hours one day, four hours the next. I BET if you did this would unknowingly go beyond your 'quit hours', as you become more aware of the fact the cigs companies need you, you don't need the cigs

As we all testify, it ain't easy. But we can all do it, including you!!

Actually, SEA, it was your comment about your mum being the only one that nagged you that led me to wish to nag the feck out of you!!

But...nagging didn't work, did it?

Sooo, there will be a Plan B.

last night i got banished to the smoking bar when i wanted a smoke, i realised all the people around me were old blokes, some of them were smoking huge cigars. when i was younger and i was desperate for a fag, i nicked a cigar my dad had been given! it was foul but i was so desperate.

what's plan b? sounds good

SEA - you DON'T want to be in the bar with a load of old blokes slowly smoking themselves to an early grave I take it? Well, you don't have to be there. It sounds very stressful and full of misery.

If you don't mind me speculating, you do seem one who 'consumes' things habitually ( that's all it is, a habit), some of them good, some of them bad. There is a part of me that is similar.

Plan B is based on things that I thought of and did in the past 6 days, and 20 hours.....I even went to a gig and a house party last night,had a really great time, was pretty well pissed by 5 am when I got to bed, and didn't put a fag anywhere near my lips. And it was easy to do. And it can be for you too, if you plan properly and make smalladjustments to how you think about how you 'consume' things.

Am I right on the 'consuming thinks habitually' thing?

Ok, heres Plan B.
....
Youve noticed all the crumbly old men your surrounded by in the smoking ber.
As of now, start noticing that you sidle up beside any old croonie just because they have the same gawd awful addiction as you.
Think of all the very boring, grim people you would never have shared a seat/table/lighter/fag/ashtray with, that your pleased you dont have to spend another minute with...yet your grateful, at the time for thier company becasue then you dont look like a berk smoking on your own. Suddenly its a social thing.....Charliecat rolls on floor laughing....

Jusr start THINKING about each and every fag and how you DONT need it.
My mum, she says she needed a fag because she was stuck in traffic....er the traffic cleared the way and let her through then?
No Its an excuse. Anyone will dooooooooooooooooooo.

Don't know if this is appropriate or not. Appologies if it seems too harsh.

I'm spending my days on a cancer ward atm, with dh, who has never smoked in his life.

Trust me, you really, really don't want to end up on one girls. If your love your kids and dh/p, quit now. It isn't nice.

We all die, but no-one should see what I have in the last week.

yes i'm a creature of habit. the time i really need a cig is first thing. i sat on my own in the bar! all the old geezers were watching the football

Not too harsh, MB, and thank you.

In this game, nothing can be too harsh.

Best wishes.

SEA. You NEVER "really need" a cigarette. Who told you this? The cigarettes??

Plan B centres on exactly this mistake between 'want and need'.

Am about to bathe and expand on this shortly. Yes I too consume often on the basis of mistaking a 'want' for a 'need'.

i don't know what to say, i lost my mum to cancer. it doesn't make sense to smoke. i wish i'd never taken that first one, but i did and it's hooked me.