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Pt 8 (Oct13) Any old prolapse! Uterus/womb prolapse, rectocele, cystocele, enterocele, urethrocele, incontinence, pelvic floor, anterior and posterior repair, TVT etc (994 Posts)

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gottagetthroughthis · 19/03/2014 00:24

Welcome to thread 8 (again - see below) of a long-running series of posts from ladies suffering from pelvic prolapses to support each other through the process of diagnosis, repair and recovery.

With apologies for confusion in thread numbers - an earlier thread was called part 7 but it was actually the 6th thread.

Here are the previous threads:

Thread 1
Thread 2
Thread 3
Thread 4
Thread 5
Thread 6
Thread 7
Thread 8

Info from BBC Health

What is a pelvic prolapse?

As the muscles, ligaments and supporting tissues in the pelvis become weaker, they are less able to hold in the organs of the pelvis such as the womb (uterus) or bladder.

Gravity pulls these organs down and, in the more severe cases, may appear through the entrance to the vagina.

A variety of problems can occur, depending on where the weakness lies and which organs are able to descend, but in every case there is some degree of prolapse of the vaginal wall, which begins to invert (rather like a sock turning inside out).
Prolapse of the womb or uterus is the most common prolapse, affecting as many as one in eight older women to some degree
Prolapse of the bladder, known as a cystocele, is less common.
Prolapse of the urethra (the tube that carries urine out of the bladder) is known as a urethrocele.
Prolapse of the intestines is quite rare, and known as an enterocele or rectocele.

Symptoms

Symptoms depend on which tissues descend, and how severe the prolapse is.

They may include:
A sense of heaviness or pressure in the pelvis.
The appearance of a bulge of tissue in the genital area, which can be quite alarming, and is often red and sore.
Urinary problems, such as having to urinate more frequently, feeling the need urgently, being incontinent (losing control of the bladder) or, conversely, being unable to pass urine when you need to.
Pain in the pelvis or lower back.
Sexual problems, including pain and decreased libido.
Constipation.
Vaginal discharge or bleeding.

Treatment and recovery

Once a prolapse has developed, surgery to fix the affected organs is usually the only way to cure it effectively.

However, another option is to use a device known as a vaginal ring pessary. This is rather like a contraceptive diaphragm or cervical cap. It's made of silicone or latex, and placed in the vagina to push back the prolapsed organs and hold them in place. Many women happily manage their prolapse this way.

OP posts:
sadie9 · 30/11/2015 11:52

I didn't need the catheter as luckily I could wee straight after. I had the anterior repair and a smaller rectocele repair. I figure the needing to pee sensation is your brain finally figuring out the connections between it and the bladder. I now don't have the same sense of fullness of the bladder post-op but I still know I need to go. And the flow is slower generally. I do remember often thinking in the early days, 'oh god what if I stay like this', but it did all settle down after a few months.
After my operation I got that pressure below, if I walked too much or walked around a shop or at the end of the day. I needed a nap in the afternoon most days for a few weeks.

sadie9 · 30/11/2015 11:53

What I mean is the pressure went away completely eventually, but if I did too much the pressure or 'ache' in the pelvis would come back and I'd have to hit the sofa again.

waiting4relief · 30/11/2015 16:18

Usually not being able to wee is not a brain thing as in hotbaths and my own case you feel as though you are about to wee but then it can't come out, that is due to swelling or trauma of the urethra. Only time to heal will allow the wee to pass through. hotbaths wouldn't it be fantastic if we could both go home catheter free on Wednesday, You seem to be so much more active then I am already, I am still mainly on bed rest due to the blood lose and bruising and swelling, so you should be proud of yourself your doing so well xo

Addictedtohotbaths1 · 30/11/2015 19:51

Waiting - that's kind. I'm paying for it this evening from being up too much though.

I bet in a week's time you will feel a great improvement and we can celebrate ditching the piss bags!

Addictedtohotbaths1 · 30/11/2015 20:00

Sadie - how long did it take before you were back to normal activities? When did it stop aching? Thx

waiting4relief · 30/11/2015 20:27

I seem to b on fire down there as soon as the ice wears of so under 5 mins and I am burning. So its had to walk around with a ice pack between your legs. Will ask the doctor today, I was told it was due to the hematomas. My husband can't believe that I have ice down there like I do without having frostbite, he said its ridiculous and wonder's did anyone else have to use ice 24hrs a day?

Addictedtohotbaths1 · 30/11/2015 20:56

I would be scared of frostbite too! It doesn't sound like your pain killers are strong enough? Maybe they can give you something more effective?

waiting4relief · 30/11/2015 22:15

I am on 5mg of oxycodone and 30mgs codeine, I thought that was strong, is it?

gottagetthroughthis · 30/11/2015 23:12

Gravytrain how's you? hope you are settled now with the pessary.

To Waiting and addicted hope you are healing ok you have both been through a lot recently but it is a big op so take it easy Smile

OP posts:
waiting4relief · 01/12/2015 12:45

I have officially been given my trial time 7.30am wed morning Hotbath lets hope we come home wee bag free! Good luck.

Addictedtohotbaths1 · 01/12/2015 15:45

Thanks Gotta.

Waiting - good luck! I feeling like I'm getting another infection, really hope not...

waiting4relief · 01/12/2015 19:30

hotbaths When you have a catheter my doctor said you should remain on antis for the duration and 1 week afterwards if you have had a infection. He said the reason is that why you have a foreign part in your body the infection can attach to it so you need to remain on it for the week afterwards to wipe it out.
gotta sadie thankyou both

waiting4relief · 02/12/2015 10:17

hotbaths how did you go? I am home now catheter free but I keep not emptying the bladder properly I will explain, I went to the toilet for the 4th time they did a ultrasound immediately afterwards and I had 150mls still left in my bladder. He was considering putting the catheter back in but because I live close to the hospital he is giving me a chance to see if my bladder wakes up. Good luck hotbathsxo

Addictedtohotbaths1 · 02/12/2015 10:40

Waiting - that's great news. Better you are home and can relax no pressure to go and hopefully it will start to empty completely. You will certainly no if it isn't.

I'm here now, I've only been once but it feel normal with no discomfort so fingers crossed...

Keep my posted x

Addictedtohotbaths1 · 02/12/2015 10:40

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Addictedtohotbaths1 · 03/12/2015 08:53

Waiting how you getting on?

I'm catheter free but I can only seem to pee standing up and it's very stop start - I'm really hoping it just takes a bit of time. I'm sure somebody posted on here saying they had to pee standing up?

waiting4relief · 03/12/2015 09:06

I am having a bit of trouble too, I can pee while sitting but I am only doing about 100mls (yes I measured to check) every couple of hours. Compared to the amount I was weeing with the catheter something's not right...
I remember that too (standing up to pee) it may take time as they moved your bladder so it need to relax back into peeing in a seated position xo

Addictedtohotbaths1 · 03/12/2015 11:14

How annoying for us both. Did they tell you to come back in?

waiting4relief · 03/12/2015 11:38

Yes they said any trouble or pain to come straight back but to be honest I am trying to empty my bladder more frequently to see if that help's even when I don't feel like going, because I know the only solution they have is the catheter again. I feel so much better (normal) without the catheter, I cried when I told my hubby that it wont work properly and told him to do something..... he said do you want me to take you in of course what else can he do but I am just so ahhhh by all of this and I am trying to avoid going in if possible. What about you did they give you any instruction's to go in and when?

Addictedtohotbaths1 · 03/12/2015 12:58

No they said everything seemed good and go home but call if any problems.

I know that feeling where you want you husband or anybody to do something to make it better but they can't.

I feel like it's irritated like at the beginning of when you have an infection coming. It probably is after all those catheters.

They did tell me not to keep going all the time but try and be normal. I think if you go really often it trains your bladder to be like that long term.

We will get there...

waiting4relief · 03/12/2015 13:16

When I left the doctor going to tell you to drink less water (I was drinking 3ltrs a day) and I'm not going to tell you to try and go to the toilet less. He said I totally believe it is going to improve but it may take time so be patient, He also added that he believes I will get great results from the surgery long term. He is a great doctor and I believe him. xo Patience patience patience xo we will get there hotbaths xo

Ridingthegravytrain · 03/12/2015 19:59

Weird, this thread stopped coming up in my "I'm on"

It was me who had to stand to wee, for a good few weeks! You'll sit eventually I promise!

Gotta, I'm going back Monday to try a different size. I'm having trouble pooing with it in too. It's random!

gottagetthroughthis · 03/12/2015 23:17

Gravytrain thank goodness I thought it was all in my head - got my physio to take mine out yesterday and did go no probs today Smile

I am not giving up on it because I felt great (apart from the poo thing - pity!!) As she told me I was going to get the one I could take in and out daily and hopefully, my thoughts were, that I could go for a poo first then put it in - hopefully anyway. Hee hee the things we have to do Blush

I paid for mine - it was £150 for doc and £65 for pessary so brought it home with me - didn't want to forget about taking that out of my handbag! (personally I think I may need a slightly smaller one and hopefully that'll do the trick) It will take 8 -9 months on the NHS waiting list for me and my doc, who is a woman, didn't even refer me! Went to her about the ring and the poo thing and she said try and persist with it it is all in my head!!!! My physio is fabulous thank goodness for her!

Addicted & Hotbaths I do feel for you both and hope you start to feel a bit better or "normal" soon, really haven't stopped thinking about you both big ((hugs))) your way and you have both been through a great big op so although I haven't been through it myself, remember it will be worth it.

OP posts:
waiting4relief · 04/12/2015 01:02

gotta Thankyou so much. I keep trying to remind myself how far I have come, from the pain and nerves before the op, to the pain directly after the op, to how I feel now and they are world's apart. I am going to go back and read all the posts from around the op time one day because for me it is a bit of a blur, but I'm just waiting until I'm emotionally ready. I know I have probably said this and if I haven't I'll say it now....
everyone You are all strong, amazing, understanding and supportive women and I only wish the best for each and every one of you. I have tears in my eyes just thinking about how you have all played such a big part in my life during this most private and emotional rollercoaster experience, I don't think I could be so strong without you all. Especially having my op at the same time as hotbaths we really have gone through all this together so thankyou all.Flowers Xmas SmileWine

waiting4relief · 05/12/2015 14:01

My bruising is finally slowly disappearing and I actually stayed out of bed for a hour today. I am a bit sore but wanted to ask how much is too much at this stage 2 and a half weeks?

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