Son has measles

[melodiousmoan]

Why do people not vaccinate their kids? My child has been vaccinated but only had his first lot as is 20 months. He has contracted measles. I chose to vaccinate him against this. Ill advised people that think if they dont vaccinate there's only a slim chance your child will get this disease you're wrong. You're increasing everyone's chance of contracting the illness by ruining the herd immunity that this country had created. Not only are you doing this, you're increasing people with compromised immune systems' chance of death. I feel terrible that my child has to go through this because of others lack of understanding.

LaV, yes, it is secondary infections that cause the problems. Deaths from measles started to decline rapidly after antibiotics became available.

of course gps say 'you must vax'. They fear they would be negligent if you did not vaccinate and then caught an illness.

They get a fee for reaching certain targets and get a bolloxing from the Health Authority if they don't reach them, so it's a brave doctor who says 'this child would be better not vaccinated, or let's hold off for now'.

Debs - The cost of Rouvax (single measles vaccine) wasn't much at all. I assume you mean that the overall cost of travelling to France etc would have been high. If I knew that you wanted it at the time, I could have sent it to you.

What do you mean by "Cote, you can't say that for sure unless it has happened to you already"? Sorry, I don't understand what this refers to.

Corus - "yes, I'm happy to accept there may be vaccine-damaged children, and I think the risk of vaccine damage is a price worth paying to avert the greater risks of not vaccinating"

That is your opinion and you have a right to it. What you don't have is a right to force that choice on the rest of us. Knock yourself out calling people "selfish", as if it is wrong for parents to think of their own child over and above what

Each of us do our own risk analysis. In mine, vaccine damage is a far worse fate than catching normal childhood diseases that I had and so did all my friends, their families and their friends.

"I am a part of society, and occasionally take risks to protect others. For example, the other day, after checking carefully, I stepped into the road for a moment to allow a woman with small children to safely use the pavement."

How big of you You looked and saw that there were no cars coming. How is that 'taking a risk'?

Would you step onto the road without checking if a car was coming to allow a woman & child to safely use the pavement? If not, why not?

"I see that you, Cote, cling to the idea that Wakefield was unfairly "discredited" and even crucified, despite ample evidence to the contrary, so you are clearly impermeable to argument and evidence and therefore not worth my effort discussing this."

I said he was discredited and he no doubt was. It did look like crucifixion at one point, too. I have not said anything about it being fair or unfair.

My point which you spectacularly missed was that because of Wakefield's public execution, no scientist will touch the subject of vaccine damage with a bargepole. As a result, we are not likely to be any closer to finding out which children exactly are at risk of vaccine damage anytime soon.

In fact, your reaction above to the mention of the word "Wakefield" proves my point - no scientist wants to be associated with any research about vaccine damage because of this reaction even to his name.

"People who are negatively affected by something cannot be expected to make rational decisions about it"

Are you saying parents of vaccine-damaged children should not be allowed to make vaccine decisions for their subsequent children?

OP - re "I hope you can see how why I used the term half vaccinated"

That is not what you said, though.

You said:

melodiousmoan Tue 25-Feb-14 09:02:15
Cote: My child has only had HALF the vaccination.

No, melodious. Your child has not had half the vaccination, because there is no such thing as half a vaccination. Try to understand this and move on, because you are boring the thread to tears by banging on about it and insisting that you were right.

Cote: that's because vaccine damage doesn't exist and it is neurotic mothers that over analyse and scaremonger that have left this country wide open to measles. Which can cause deafness and blindness in perfectly healthy individuals, not just the people with 'weaker' immune Systems.

He was partially vaccinated. Accept this and I will leave it.

I started the thread? You're boring. You've said your piece, now move on yourself.

Sorry Cote it was meant for Corus who said that she would give her 2nd child vaxs if her 1st child had suffered vaccine injury. I disagreed as it is ok to say you believe strongly in something and nothing will stop that belief. Faced with knowing that your unshakeable belief has caused such damage must change your opinions. Mine changed after seeing what happened to my son and researching into it.

that's because vaccine damage doesn't exist

It most certainly does and the government has a compensation scheme

It includes, measles,mumps and rubella as well as a number of other diseases. Whether a one of payment of £120,000 is sufficient for a severely disabled child and how difficult it is to prove are matters for another thread.

melodious - re "Cote: that's because vaccine damage doesn't exist"

Wow. And you call others 'ignorant idiots'

You clearly have internet access. Look up the phrase vaccine damage and learn something before you embarrass yourself any further.

I agree with that Debs. I can't imagine what you have been through and nobody should pretend they can

Cote: you're commenting yet all I read is 'blah blah blah' You vaxed your child. MMR or single measles. You vaxed. I'm not quite sure what your point is. You clearly see measles as an illness worth protecting against. The Thread, which has been dominated and geared to a direction which you want to discuss was nothing about mumps or rubella.

Yes melodious, you started the thread.

Your child got measles, you got angry, and thought "Hey, I know what I must do - go register on MN, and as my first ever post, start a thread calling parents of unvaccinated children 'idiots', 'misinformed', and 'ignorant'!"

Congratulations. Here, have a medal.

"you're commenting yet all I read is 'blah blah blah' "

I won't comment on why you can't understand what you read, because it would be rude.

Because they are. I didn't see you jumping on Crimson Queen's comment that she wanted to slap them in the face. There are thousands of mothers that feel like I do. Just like the countless mothers on this thread that commented: I agree with you OP. You're the minority.

Cote: I'm going to give you some ammunition now...you'll love this one. I'm an English Teacher. I can read perfectly well. watches the thread fall in to a tirade of English Teacher bashing

agree with everyone who disagrees with melodious

staggered by your ignorance and blind repetition of bollocks

" I'm going to give you some ammunition now"

Please don't. You already present such a target-rich environment that I don't know which of your ridiculous claims to dismantle.

" I'm an English Teacher. I can read perfectly well"

No worries. My diagnosis of why you can't understand what you read had nothing to do with your English comprehension skills anyway.

I would actually recommend a namechange after this thread if you intend to stay around.

Cafecito. I have only cited NHS and reputable information. The less people that don't immunise for stupid reasons = the loss of herd immunity. I'm not staggered, I'm astounded at your ignorance and agreeance with the bollocks posted on here.