Son has measles

[melodiousmoan]

Why do people not vaccinate their kids? My child has been vaccinated but only had his first lot as is 20 months. He has contracted measles. I chose to vaccinate him against this. Ill advised people that think if they dont vaccinate there's only a slim chance your child will get this disease you're wrong. You're increasing everyone's chance of contracting the illness by ruining the herd immunity that this country had created. Not only are you doing this, you're increasing people with compromised immune systems' chance of death. I feel terrible that my child has to go through this because of others lack of understanding.

Are the stats still skewed by them not including children who have had single jabs? I know it used to be the case that they only recorded if a child had or hadn't had the MMR. The children who have had single jabs privately (or occasionally on the NHS) weren't recorded. Just wondering how accurate the information out there is?

I'm afraid I find it very difficult to know who to rail against. Undoubtedly, there are people who simply haven't made an appropriate decision for their child and have left them unvaccinated through laziness or ignorance. But I've never met them. I know quite a few people who haven't given the MMR but for very good reasons. Most have given singles instead. A couple have chosen not to vaccinate at all. Again, for very good reasons. Compulsory vaccination would never work.

The only child I know who has had measles was 100% vaccinated.

I appreciate that you're upset and worried. I would be too. But you're right that it's too easy to be emotive as opposed to considered.

There is no such thing as 'half vaccinated'. The first jab protects 95% of children fully, the second jab is not a 'booster' it is the same jab aimed at the 5% who didn't take first time. Even after 2 jabs a small percentage remain vulnerable.

So you are either vaccinated or not, but have no way of knowing without blood tests.

I was wondering about the half vaccinated thing tbh

THANK YOU Coruskate! Someone speaking sense!

The same thing happened to my daughter after her first MMR jab. The gp said in those circumstances a child has "modified measles" which they cannot pass on to another person, and is usually milder. So OP's child probably couldn't infect anyone else.

immunity is a form of immunity that occurs when the vaccination of a significant portion of a population (or herd) provides a measure of protection for individuals who have not developed immunity.

It arises when a high percentage of the population is protected through vaccination against a virus or bacteria, making it difficult for a disease to spread because there are so few susceptible people left to infect.

This can effectively stop the spread of disease in the community. It is particularly crucial for protecting people who cannot be vaccinated. These include children who are too young to be vaccinated, people with immune system problems, and those who are too ill to receive vaccines (such as some cancer patients).

The proportion of the population which must be immunised in order to achieve herd immunity varies for each disease but the underlying idea is simple: once enough people are protected, they help to protect vulnerable members of their communities by reducing the spread of the disease.

However, when immunisation rates fall, herd immunity can break down leading to an increase in the number of new cases. For example, measles outbreaks in the UK and pertussis outbreaks in the US have been attributed to declining herd immunity.

That's interesting SpiderStacy, I do hope this is the case.

A lot of people chose not to vaccinate because of the scare story spread by one totally discredited doctor. They have continued not to vaccinate over the past few years, during which he has remained totally discredited. That is selfish to their child and other children (and unvaccinated adults). Measles is a fairly dangerous illness.

Melodious - There is no such thing as "half the vaccination". You really should try to understand this subject a little better before calling others "misinformed idiots".

Spider - Modified measles is contagious and those cases (like OP's son) do spread the virus. You may have misunderstood your GP.

Let's not bother with vaccinations then as they seem so rubbish.

That's just silly and not something anyone here has said.

Modified measles is contagious and those cases (like OP's son) do spread the virus.
You really should try to understand this subject a little better before calling others "misinformed idiots".

That's a bit how I felt Cote: unless you are 100% sure that your child wasn't spreading the disease during the incubation period, which you could only do if you were isolated from other people, then you should be careful about sounding off about non-vaccinated people. OPs son might have caught measles from a vaccinated person, and spread it to a good few others whose vaccination didn't provide sufficient immunity. There's no way of telling.

Well what are you really saying? That vaccinating against measles isn't worth it?

My cousin's girlfriend has decided not to give her baby any vaccinations at all because she wants to keep everything 'natural'

It's pretty likely that OP's ds caught it from someone unvaccinated though, isn't it.

OP - I hope your ds is better soon, I would be fuming too in your situation.

It's pretty likely that OP's ds caught it from someone unvaccinated though, isn't it.

I would have thought that unless a majority of children in the area weren't vaccinated, then it's more likely that he got it from someone who was vaccinated, didn't fully realise it was measles, and because it was mild, went and spread it unwittingly.

How is your son doing, Melodius? Hopefully the one jab means a relatively mild case? X fingers for you both.

My kids are fully vax'd. A rabid anti-vax MNer once described the experience her children had when measles swept thru their house. She must have really feared jabs because the story she told was close to horrendous.

Commiserations OP. I hope your ds recovers quickly and without complications.

My children are fully vaccinated for their own sake and the health of others. My heart goes out to families with immunocompromised children who are at constant risk.

I'm with you OP.

I agree with you op we had a measles scare at about 13mths just before she got the jabs (turns out it was antibiotics) . Our doc said that if it was confirmed as measles hed have to contact the local health agency to detect where it had come from and that they would take 'appropriate action' to prevent further cases. And I was told the doctor who came up with the 'research' who was struck off was creating his own version of the mmr and was discrediting the existing one so the nhs would use his new version by my hv

And I was told the doctor who came up with the 'research' who was struck off was creating his own version of the mmr and was discrediting the existing one so the nhs would use his new version by my hv

I've not heard that before. As far as I recall, he was recommending the single measles vaccination, which was available at the time, had been in use for a good many years and was trusted by parents so take up was high. This is no longer available on the NHS.

gosh, is it time for another vaccination thread full of misinformation and scaremongering?

they come around so regularly.

OP, I hope your ds is feeling better soon. please do read up on how vaccination works, as you seem dangerously misinformed.

Erm, yes. She thinks he is half vaccinated against measles - what is that even supposed to mean?

It shows a distinct lack of awareness of how mmr vaccination works.