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[MaryAnnSingleton]

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Ruby I hope I didn't make you feel bad I didn't mean that at all your hair looks lovely.

Betsy must be great knowing it's the last one

Gigs hops they don't make you wait too long, mr gigs sounds lovely and caring

I will be watching grand designs tonight and taking the mickey out of Kevin then goggle box which I love, my tv taste is a bit dodgy though. I recommend the new bridget jones book too for a nice easy read with no cancer references, wondered if that's what mark died of but it wasn't

Hope everyone has a good evening

No problem BB I'm slow too at responding and a lot of other stuff at the moment.

Ooh, goggle box - love that malt Might get hold of the new Bridget Jones too

kitkat I'm not post surgery but this plan has been mentioned to me also and I must admit my impression was that the 2nd breast would be altered after the first one had settled. I guess it might depend on the surgeon though

Malt-Ooh that is a good read suggestion. My cabby today lives near Peter Andre and said he is very nice if a bit dim.

Got a cancer crocks lunch with my cousin on Friday which am looking forward to. Between her and you lot am most grateful for support.

I agree Rick should stay in Cornwall . Mr gigs is very lovely but has got control of the remote so it's rugby prog here.

Which made me think of this the Paris tesco rugby team photo

Nice boys!

What is Paris Tesco?

I have had so many holidays cancelled that now refer to holiday as trip to tesco as crap joke to pretend not going on holiday. Paris as am super lucky as have holiday place there.

thanks Marshy - that's what i'm reading too but darn it - probably more surgery then. Good job it's a posh hospital then . Just need to get my head round it all.

ah ok, I get it now...paris Tesco

Always something to get the head around kitkat isn't there - its exhausting.

Bloody hell! Watching the river cottage thing and 2 cancer adverts! Just bugger off!

I just saw my name mentioned thanks marshy and thought I would check in. My surgery went well yesterday and I stayed in hospital for a few hours and rested. I have about 100 steri strips on it ! The de-briding involved a lot of burning of skin etc so it is pretty sore since the local wore off .... I've taken the rest of the week off and though I have been at a meeting about DS(10) school etc, I have been taking things a lot easier than the last time ! He had a fantastic birthday and loved his bike ! I'll pop a photo in fb group. Will go
And catch up in a bit !

ah glad it went well HND

Make sure you rest up and take care of yourself to promote healing, and pop the painkillers!

Nice but dim seems about right !

I hate those cancer adverts especially the one with the coffee morning and the one where they all fall over

Mind you I cry at the dunhelm advert with the daughter going away to uni makes me sad on so many levels

Glad you're ok Hnd resting up sounds a good idea

checking out now - see you all tomorrow and restful night all

With you on those adverts malt.

Right, am off now

to those of you having positive news and to those having less fun stuff.
Have sky+ed GBBO as Scotland v Croatia was on last night, was really hoping Ruby would get booted this time.
Trip to hospital tomorrow for biopsy results and scan stuff. Have thought in back of my head that it might all be wrong but I know realistically that it's unlikely.
Been up in the highlands for 4 days - could really get used to slower pace of life up there, but very hard not telling relatives what's happening. Other than our parents we decided not to until we had something definite to say, esp as DH's aunt died v young of BC.
I'm also stressed as DM is looking after all 3 DCs tomorrow. I hope she's ok, especially with DD. At least she'll take a bottle. Best stop, I'm rambling...

glad your doing OK HDN - I'm looking forward to seeing the bike pics. Keep taking it steady - don't let Topsy lead you astray

glad all went well HND and everything crossed that was the LAST op ever

good luck tomorrow weebarra

Bugger to no news yet Gigs
Hopefully Mr Gigs will get a call soon x

Okay dumb qu time - how do you know if chemo has tipped you into menopause - is it just a case of wait and see if periods return? How long?
(you might remember I had mega hot flushes in C2-4 but not really any major ones since)

Good question Betsy - as I have virtually no periods anyway due to mirena coil but I would to know this. I get hot more than before but no idea if they are flushes or just chemo SEs - it's hard to know with so much going on . Then with tamoxifen I gather not eveyone's periods stop - not sure it that's a problem or not.
Hopefully someone wise will come along and explain all for us....

Dunno that one. I'm still waiting for tamoxifen menopause, darn, could have asked that question this evening. Went to support group to hear bc surgeon give a talk - very good and reassuring with lots of pics of different ops and types of reconstruction and statistics. Did fit a quick swim in this morning, didn't have much time but glad I went, nice way to start the day.

Glad to see you back, HND. That's a lot of steri strips...! Glad your boy had a good birthday.

Betsy and Kitkat I am no expert, but even if your periods stop completely it doesn't necessarily mean you're through the menopause, as clearly Tamoxifen's buggering about with everything. The only way they can tell is to run blood tests.

And kitkat, I think surgeon will do separately. Mine was keen for the cancer breast to settle first then do the other - rads can shrink skin, etc, etc. In the end I had preventative mx, but she still waited for the other one to settle and even so they still don't bloody match...

Good luck from me too, weebarra. Will be thinking of you.

Night all. Sleep well. zzz

I've only had 1 period since I had my merina removed in June but interesting what Smee said that might just be the chemo.

Thanks smee - am hoping for no rads but at least I'll be prepared now. How long does this 'settling' take then?

I'm still hoping for bikini ready boobs for the summer hols (nipple optional so not concerned to have that done).

good luck from me too weebarra and still hand holding for gig
No menopause here yet,despite 3 years on tamoxifen and now chemo.. in fact pesky period just started which means I won't want to swim tomorrow (besides my elbows are really aching) You do look really lovely ruby
sleep well everyone.

gigs grr that no call, I know you'll be worrying about the worst, but I am hoping for the best

My periods stopped at cycle 2 or 3 of chemo but I still had about 3 periods through the 5 years of Tamoxifen, humdingers too even by my standards. They won't declare you completely post menopausal until you have gone a year or 18 months without. My blood tests were all over the place, after a period estrogen levels would be zero, and a vaginal ultrasound would show nothing doing, but then a few months later it would be back, which when you are peri menopausal is quite usual so my Consultant didn't actually declare me post menopausal until after Tamoxifen. In any case, and they don't fully understand, Tamoxifen seems to mimic Estrogen and stops the real stuff getting to receptors but may also give signals to stop, or carry on? A few of my friends did not go through menopause with chemo and if they were hormone negative, triple negative or her 2 neu they saw no benefit in it. However if you are ER+ I would have the conversation with your Consultant, when we were treated they didn't do anything but I think it is mostly recognised now you should, and certainly for me after two hormonal Cancers and infertility related to high estrogen levels I had had enough.