MMR or not, and where to go for single vaccs? Lone parent, would love advice

[missperelman]

hello, i think i have decided to go for single vaccs for mumps and measles for my one year old daughter. i wondered if anyone knew where was best to go for this in London? the childrens immunisation clinic on harley st? is there cheaper, does anyone know? also, would you not bother with rubella until the child itself is of childbearing age. ??
confused as to which way to go, even to have them at all. but i think i will do mumps and measles separately. aaaargh. confused
laura
lone parent

I should've been clear. The quote was regarding jabs at 8 weeks, not the MMR.

Are parents given this information at jab time?

Anaphylaxis isn't the same as apnea.

http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CC8QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fgroup.bmj.com%2Fgroup%2Fmedia%2Flatest-news%2FAnaphylactic%2520shock%2520after%2520vaccination%2520201cextremely%2520rare201d.pdf&ei=_G9HUZ-lNuzZ0QW_qoG4Aw&usg=AFQjCNEWhm7XuMSG0PiaowWxGrQ72tmRGQ anaphylaxis after childhood vaccines

sorry link

Rosi you are totally deluded. These threads are really starting to bore me.

just stop it seeker. Do you want me to get down on my knees and be whipped or something?

By not having the rubella vaccine you are putting pregnant women at risk.
I was wondering whether to have the triple vaccine with my first 6 year's ago and decided to go ahead. I am glad I did as he's fine. I have also had my 2nd vaccinated which is protecting my 3rd (5 months) until he is old enough for his vaccine

Monkeys, one is putting pregnant women at risk by not having the rubella jab?

You mean the unborn children of unvaccinated pregnant women, right? Or those without immunity to rubella? You'll have some people thinking all pregnant women's unborn babies are at risk.

So, could the woman have got vaccinated and taken some responsibility herself too?

I just find it odd that some groups of people are deemed more responsible for the health of others when those others are perfectly capable (or should be) of protecting themselves.

I think one should be careful who to 'blame', as it were. It all seems to be about blame, doesn't it?

At the beginning of the 20th century, 1 baby in 5 died before their 1st birthday.

Antibiotics, vaccination, better medical knowledge all contributed to reducing that rate drastically. Let's not be part of the generation where it starts going up again............

In 1871-1872, England, with 98% of the population aged between 2 and 50 vaccinated against smallpox, it experienced its worst ever smallpox outbreak with 45,000 deaths. During the same period in Germany, with a vaccination rate of 96%, there were over 125,000 deaths from smallpox. ( The Hadwen Documents)

In 1967, Ghana was declared measles free by the World Health Organisation after 96% of its population was vaccinated. In 1972, Ghana experienced one of its worst measles outbreaks with its highest ever mortality rate. (Dr H Albonico, MMR Vaccine Campaign in Switzerland, March 1990)

In the UK between 1970 and 1990, over 200,000 cases of whooping cough occurred in fully vaccinated children. (Community Disease Surveillance Centre, UK)

In 1977, Dr Jonas Salk who developed the first polio vaccine, testified along with other scientists, that mass inoculation against polio was the cause of most polio cases throughout the USA since 1961. (Science 4/4/77 "Abstracts" )

In 1978, a survey of 30 States in the US revealed that more than half of the children who contracted measles had been adequately vaccinated. (The People's Doctor, Dr R Mendelsohn)

Any instances less than 40 years old?

Seeker
they are copied and pasted from "whales" website which means

they are ether

1. completely out of context ie 98% of population means 98% of babies due to immunised that year not 98% of the full population

1. figures that have been fiddled. Whale has known to leave out years of data to make graphs fit what he is saying

1. its just made up ie vera schreibner

molotovcocktail makes the point brilliantly in response to rosi's rubbish. I don't think rosi has answered any of the questions yet though. Some people are bonkers.

In 1979, Sweden abandoned the whooping cough vaccine due to its ineffectiveness. Out of 5,140 cases in 1978, it was found that 84% had been vaccinated three times! (BMJ 283:696-697, 1981)

The February 1981 issue of the Journal of the American Medical Association found that 90% of obstetricians and 66% of pediatricians refused to take the rubella vaccine.

In the USA, the cost of a single DPT shot had risen from 11 cents in 1982 to $11.40 in 1987. The manufacturers of the vaccine were putting aside $8 per shot to cover legal costs and damages they were paying out to parents of brain damaged children and children who died after vaccination. (The Vine, Issue 7, January 1994, Nambour, Qld)

In Oman between 1988 and 1989, a polio outbreak occurred amongst thousands of fully vaccinated children. The region with the highest attack rate had the highest vaccine coverage. The region with the lowest attack rate had the lowest vaccine coverage. (The Lancet, 21/9/91)

In 1990, a UK survey involving 598 doctors revealed that over 50% of them refused to have the Hepatitis B vaccine despite belonging to the high risk group urged to be vaccinated. (British Med Jnl, 27/1/1990)

In 1990, the Journal of the American Medical Association had an article on measles which stated " Although more than 95% of school-aged children in the US are vaccinated against measles, large measles outbreaks continue to occur in schools and most cases in this setting occur among previously vaccinated children." (JAMA, 21/11/90)

In the USA, from July 1990 to November 1993, the US Food and Drug Administration counted a total of 54,072 adverse reactions following vaccination. The FDA admitted that this number represented only 10% of the real total, because most doctors were refusing to report vaccine injuries. In other words, adverse reactions for this period exceeded half a million! (National Vaccine Information Centre, March 2, 1994)

In the New England Journal of Medicine July 1994 issue a study found that over 80% of children under 5 years of age who had contracted whooping cough had been fully vaccinated.