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[MaryAnnSingleton]

step this way dear ones...the trolley will be here in a sec...

Bed I think for tipsy and Copthall

Wise as ever Copthall

Night night x

Night Night xxxxx

Morning all just read through but IT will be late to work if I reply to all so I'm just going to say hello and welcome to ashocan sorry to hear of your dx and bf trouble but hang around here for handholding and cake.
Since there has been a catchup: I'm 46, 18 months from my dx with breast cancer had lumpectomy, radiotheraphy and I'm back at work. Last day at work in my old job today. New job Monday. I hang around here for the fbs and because I still sometimes get a cancer wobble. 18 month check up appt came through yesterday...
Lone forget about the phonecall (which they may forget to do anyway) and gear up for clinic in 3 weeks. Waiting for results is horrible, why would they think that would help?
Waves to everyone else. Have a lovely day. I'll try not to cry today but had a wobble yesterday when took lable off locker. Chose that locker with two dear friends, one who is no longer with us - bastard disease dx was too late for her. She was never well enough to start chemo :(
Arrgh must get up still got reports to write...

I don't just hang around for the fbs, you are all lovely and I'd miss you all if I didn't pop in .

oh jane -ends of things are always hard,but you have new job ahead which will be fab I'm sure.
Took my temp last night as I was so hot but all ok -just appallingly sniffly - rubbed Vick all over and put Karvol on my hanky but slept pretty well so can't be that bad.
T has pupil review day today,so in for a short appointment with tutor then a day to himself- which I hope means revision. Am having hair cut.
Have a good day jane and love to all,especially those having a rotten time

for jane - leavings and goodbyes are the hardest things, you are entitled to a wobble. - But once you get started in your new job you will settle in and be happy there too - you'll make more good memories and good friends

MAS - take things easy, sounds as if your cold is a nasty one, -Dr Kurri prescribes a dressing gown day, with DVDs and chocolate (quick before lent )
I will start you of with a

Copt - you speak sense as always, - I could cheerfully have throttled my DS's ex too - she dumped him when she went to university (after receiving and keeping various gifts he sent her to help her settle in ) - she was a stunningly beautiful girl, - half Singaporean, -and he was besotted by her, and was very depressed for a long time afterwards (he has bi polar, and was really struggling with it at that time) I felt very cross with her for ages, but on reflection he might well have been high maintenance in those days, she was spreading her wings, - these things happen. And now he is engaged to a fabulous girl who I love as if she is my own. I'm not woo, but I do believe what will be will be

There are a lot of Foxes on Tv atm aren't there - I saw an adaptation of Edwin Drood at Christmas which had another young Fox in it (Laurence's cousin I think - can't remember his name - possibly Freddie??) Emilia is lovely, and I really like her in SW - good strong female character for a change.

Topsy I know you google pictures on Laurence Fox because when I tried to it said 'sorry site is busy, topsy is online' and yes he does look sexy when he is smoking, although I also want to tell him to stop, it's a filthy habit (and he would listen to me because I look exactly like Billie Piper and Julie Christie

I mostly get my murder fix from watching ITV3

i was supposed to go to keep fit this morning, but Dh had to leave early and I didn't get up in time so I'm pootling about on here and drinking coffee instead, which is exercise for my fingers and mouth so all good!

waving to everyone xx

your prospective DIL sounds lovely and much nicer than previous one- I do believe in things that are meant to be - dh was meant for me I'm sure -we are so alike in lots of ways and 'get' each others peculiarities
Alas no snuggling indoors for me as must go to hairdressers and later to post office to send work but some fresh air and exercise will do me good.
I like Laurence Fox's drawly voice.
Righto, must crack on - ds is up but in his room,probably not revising.

KK Nice to hear your son is on the happy ever after with lovely DIL to be. "What will be, will be" is probably my favourite of my "Oh God I'm sounding like my mother" sayings to DDs . DD hasn't had a serious relationship since and I do worry she is putting up a barrier to protect herself (he compounded his sins by then going out with one of her closest friends so for a while there she lost both of them) but in the meantime she leads her poor flatmates around like lovesick puppies.... When she rings and says "We had a great day looking around Highgate Cemetery, you just know that four boys would be staying in playing X box not be visiting Highgate Cemetery if they had not been told to by bossyboots

Ashokan Hope you don't mind drunken rantings? and hope you are going to have better day today.

My favourite story of charitable person is of trophy wife with "perfect" house and "perfect" family who was "class mum" and held class coffee morning to discuss fund raising for school on day my hair chose to fall out, in great clumps, fortunately I had tied it back, slide was only thing that kept it all from falling on her perfectly plumped cushions and sofa. She could not but betray that she felt my hair was behaving in a deeply inappropriate way, messing up her living room (bet she was at it with the pet hair attachment for her Dyson the minute I left), in fact having pale ill looking person looking nauseous at the sight of her croissants and making everyone feel uncomfortable was messing up her perfect coffee morning. So I just love that it was her that ran off with another woman a couple of years later Yes the whole "perfect" life was a complete sham, and underneath was a real unhappy person just waiting for a chance to escape and have a real life........

Pen Glad your session with surgeon was a relief. My lump, I hate the t word, was 1.7cms, so are we in exclusive club? One f*ing lymph node completely involved though, without which I might have escaped chemo and just had Tamoxifen but no point crying over spilt milk

Lone Sounds like they skewered you rather than took a biopsy! Hope it isn't too sore. We all know about the wait for results, feel free to chuck whatever is going on in your worry box into the paranoia box.

Actually we have been doing our statistics.... Diagnosed with Breast Cancer August 2001, six months chemo and five years Tamoxifen. I'm 55 23, like Topsy and look like Julie Christie (surprisingly common for those with Breast Cancer), honest.

No sign of topsy Are you there? You can get out of bed now. I am actually nursing a headache, must be something I eat or too much googling of Foxes smoking

Mas Hope you are home and tucked up warmly, and cold gets better.

That's who I look like !
Billie Piper ....

X posted Copthall
I actually vomited this morning !
Think I must have a virus ...

And some git hacked my eBay account last night and bought me the aqua mumsnet scarf I've been lusting after ...

oh topsy you do cheer us up
Am back from hair cut (oh and highlights-except they are dark lights) - lots of nice layers,yet keeping the length (sorry if that seems insensitive to those with hairloss)

Well today I do look and feel like I have been kicked by a horse (yes I have been in the past). I was sooooo tired last night I went to bed before Silent Witness so will watch them back to back tonight.
Copt you said dump my worries in the box. Well my biggest fear is that DD is left with only her fuckwit father to not look after her. She is a 9 year who feels she needs to be in charge there as no one else seems to be.

topsy that's shameful - report to the police a once and link to scarf

Ha at messing up woman's sofa with your hair going south Copt - serves her right.

I once made a total idiot of myself - I was very weak during chemo, lost a lot of muscle power in my legs, but I was going to the library one day and a toddler was kicking a ball around, he kicked it towards me so I kicked it back to him. Unfortunately the effort made my legs totally collapse under me and I sank to the ground. Toddler's mother comes over very concerned, by this time Dh has caught up with me and starts trying to haul me up, but I can't push with my legs at all so am just a dead weight, also I am laughing hysterically by this time. Eventually another chap comes up and he and Dh manage to winch me to my feet. DH says 'why do you always do these ridiculous things K?'

Hair sounds lovely MAS layers will suit you.

Lone - I think fears for our children are probably one of the scariest aspects of this business. But a nurse when I was in hospital once, told me to try to deal with what you know, don't get ahead of yourself and worry about the don't knows. You are very far from being down and out - if you have cancer, it is treatable, hang on to that thought, and try not to think about the 'what ifs' which will probably never happen. But you are bruised and battered, and it's hard not to get down about things, so massive hugs and sympathy xx

re scarfs, football and sofa-hair incidents.

Lonecat, from the prognostic charts, you've only slightly more chance of being hit by David Beckham being fired out of a cannon in the High Street tomorrow than dying of breast cancer, from where you are at the moment. If it's an 'oo not sure' sort of lump, assuming it's the 1 in 10 that is indeed cancer, only 1 in 10 of those puts up a fight against the modern treatments. And, of those, 80% are now manageable as a long-term condition instead of a 'oo eck, I'm a gonner' scenario. In fact, even metastatic cancer can be completely cured in a reasonable percentage of cases, which has amazed the profession (who were all politely ignoring the long term survivors and not noticing it had indeed b*ggred off). Not any consolation for those who really do get the snorky sort, of course. But the odds are very good.
Interesting newer research shows very clearly that the odds of it going away are vastly improved if people have a good social network, take vitamin D supplements and various others that have shown very strong anti-proliferation effects in the labs...and treat cancer as a minor nuisance. That attitude, rather than the 'stiff upper lip - it's awful but bear it!' attitude seems to convince the body to do just that - and it does. Very odd. Naturally, scientists, being a skeptical bunch, didn't believe it was true. So they did a to of meta-analyses. It is.
Thus...if it is indeed News ahead of you, socialise for all your worth, take the extra stuff, and treat it like it's of no great importance. You will thus survive very nicely.
Meantime, have a
I run a Professional Practice with nine of us, so had to do the whole employer-on-chemotherapy thing, by the way. It was doable.

Lone, how's your daughter with it all atm? I was quite lucky in a way, as my son was just 5 when I was diagnosed. Far easier to keep the worry from them when they're so tiny. I'd bet we've all had those fears. Know I have and still do on bad days of paranoia, but odds are still good, so I'd bet your DD will be bossing you around in your dotage.

Topsy, g'ah at sickness. Hacked E-bay, but they still bought you something you want?

at Kurri and her wonky legs.

MAS, hair sounds lovely.

Copt, good story! I like your drunken ramblings, so don't stop.

Am hoping Ned's survived another week of work. Is it half term for you next week, Ned, or week after? Keep staggering on. x

Nowt to tell here. Failing to do work as ever. Hope AtoZ's okay. You too, Pen and Ashokan and Amber, hope the patient's recovering well. Not sure if HND has recovered from her day out with Topsy either. anyone? I think AC (atrocious cunt) should be a new thread acronym.

Doing alright here thanks. FineLad's eye pain is fairly ok and I'm making him rest. Well, as much as any small mum can make a national level rugby prop rest...;

Well, I'm feeling a little foolish now as it seems he isn't planning to break up with me at all. I completely misread the situation. Things are still rather dire but not quite at breaking point yet I don't think. We are going to talk over the weekend! :)

Thank you all for your wise words last night, drunken or otherwise. I found them all very helpful.

jane I hope your last day is going well.

I am feeling a million times more positive today. I was in a lot of pain and was told it was just my body adjusting after the surgery but I went to the GP and it turns out I have an infection so when that's cleared up I will feel much better! :)

amberlight have you read Anticancer by David Servan-Schreiber? That had lots about how important support networks are. Also various diet things and meditation that can help. I read it after my surgery and it helped me feel like I was back in control.

copt that lady sounds horrible, hardly your fault about your hair! I suppose she must have been incredibly miserable living a lie though.

I don't like the new Silent Witness so much, Jack is quite annoying and also they seem to be cramming so much into each plot now, just for the sake of it.

Ashokan definitely meditation - I can recommend that,as can gig I think.
I love amber's stats - they are always so sensible - be comforted by her words.

horrid news- my friend's husband died this week from cancer -she is devastated as her parents both died late last year within days of one another - how can this happen ? I am so sad for her -he was a very lovely man and they have 3 daughters,the oldest is just 18 - poor,poor family

How old were her parents? When very old sometimes this happens. So sorry about your friend's husband. Had he been through chemo?

parents both elderly- 80 s I think and yes,husband had been having chemo on and off -trying all kinds of treatment. Awful for them.