**Tamoxifen** the 30th thread !

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Am wheeling the trolley over....

Oh yes I saw psychotic Cyril last week, my stomach was doing flips when they kept lifting the lids off the bins. And then he appeared to rugby tackle the kids to the ground in a not at all gentle sort of way. I think dd would wet herself (and not in a fun way) if she met up with him

at not a do without a crisis. Well turns out she can't come as due to fly out that day- I detect dsd hazy grasp of time and space in idea to come. So you can hide your scars .

CBbc is a world of odd- isnt there something that involves kids running around on a disused oil tanker? That is before we get Into stage school hell of things like Danis house.

DS v.brave about Cyril from the safety of the sofa.

Hooray for badly timed flights, gig.

Right, off out now. Have a good night all.

Gigs - oh dear, what a shame she can't join you

smee - Cyril sounds horrible!!

I vaguely remember watching some children's v.v.early morning show once when I was a scummy student and being bemused by a contest between the Christians and the Heathens!! No idea what channel it was on but it was Odd.

DM and I are now safely back in Herrenaland and DH seems to have had a suspiciously easy time with the DCs. I suspect doping.

Good night all :)

Hi everyone!

I've broken the usb on my tablet so I can't charge it :( very dischuffed, took it for a repair and it is probably not fixable, so when the charge goes.... its a brick. heyho. On a positive note the mini sd fits into my works mobile phone which will play all the mp3s from it, so all is not quite lost (not sure work would approve...) Won't be around much until I get a new machine sorted though, and will have to be after payday :(

Hope you are having a good night out Smee.

Aw jchoc . Hope you get something sorted soon. Probably not an expense you want at this time of year.

Hope you are having a sober fun night out smee.

herrena I think we all want someone to tell us it is going to be ok, I still do but it does get easier through time. Your mum is probably very much in the shocked feeling of being told she has cancer. It is good though that chemo is starting soon.

First Herceptin went ok. I was in a tiny room at the back of the unit with no windows and one nurse for hours. I had missed breakfast so by the time I was leaving I was absolutely starving. Felt a bit iffy on journey home, incredibly cold and nauseous but feel fine now. One down 17 to go

gracie glad the first one went OK though to the horrible little room, why is it always a horrible little room?

gigs awwww, every good "do" has to have a dodgy relly who is grumpy / maudlin/ drunk. If you don't have one I am sure we could still oblige, I could do my famous Amazon impression.....

smee Hope you had a lovely evening. Yes she is off studying, in her third year now but the She's gone / she's back rollercoaster doesn't get any easier. The booby traps were all to do with a text war they had been having, little notes everywhere in her room, in every drawer, in her bed, sock drawer, inserted into a framed picture etc. etc. etc. It's all quite heartwarming really because they didn't get on, they are so different you wouldn't know they were from the same gene pool. It used to be screeching in bad way, and we were at a loss what to do about it but now they finally seem to have become close. No2's DDs friends think that there should be a reality show featuring the tricks they play on each other, though we still haven't sorted out the iTunes library that was changed so that every artist was listed as the Arctic Monkeys, this apparently has wrecked No 2's social life since anyone looking at her ipod thinks she is some sort of "weird Arctic Monkeys obsessive", it really isn't funny apparently.....

Dick and Dom are still around?? though they didn't have scary clowns in our day. Watching children's TV these days makes you think that to devise it they must go into a small room and take mindbending drugs.

Gracie, well done on Herceptin no.1. Must seem like a haul to the end, but if you're feeling okay then that's good.

Jane, bugger about the computer. Reading your post made me want to swipe my iPad back from DS.

Copthall, maybe your DD leaving home meant they could get on. I think a friend of mine found that with her girls too. the jokes sound fab, though I can imagine the humour failure over the Arctic Monkeys. I actually think the Dick and Dom show's rather brilliant. It's intelligently wacky and v.funny. The clown is inspired, but terrifying..

Hope MAS is okay and reached MIL in one piece. Soggy day here. DS just trashed me at PayDay. I always lose..

Well done on first herceptin under your belt gracie, - hope you are feeling Ok today - you may very well be fine on it, many people are.

grr about computer jchoc - that is very frustrating.

copthall - its interesting about your DD's and great that they get on now. My two (DS and DD) were always reasonably good friends, but they did have the odd arguments, but they get on really well now he has left home

Soggy here too Smee, and chilly. I also hope MAS arrived in one piece and is having a nice time.

Someone tell me to stop getting into arguments on this forum with spiritualists. I can't seem to stop myself answering these threads from people who say 'my medium/psychic/charlatan told me this that or the other' it makes me so cross that people accept this crap.

Kurri, STOP IT. They're clearly loopy, so not worth your energy.

Thanks Smee - I needed that , I should hide 'spiritualist' threads and never click on them, - its not good for my blood pressure!

smee agreed on Dick and Dom. I remember discussing with other Mums that the one that does magic tricks, can't remember if it is Dick or Dom? was sure to go places, after he first started out as a presenter on Childrens' BBC (when it was on the BBC!! ). It's nice is that he has done that by continuing to entertain children, as you say intelligently as well as wacky and funny. Scary clowns? Pah I was raised on Tizwaz, which really must have been terrifying and completely mystifying for the children involved!

smee and KK Yes I am sure going away is part of it. It is funny they got on fine when they were tiny and No 2 daughter trailed around adoringly after big sis but as soon as she started to develop a mind of her own it turned into extreme sibling rivalry. Now she is back to aspiring to be her and can't wait to follow her off to uni (hopefully if Gove hasn't got more minefields laid for her and her peers ) It's great because now we can have lovely girlie nights together watching Bridget Jones yet again . Actually last night it wasn't Bridget Jones, it was "Jersey Shore Shark Attack" quite the best so bad it is funny film we have watched since Titanic 2.... This is the trailer (warning contains copious amounts of fake blood and sharks). This is the trailer for Titanic 2 (warning contains fake ships) .

KK I know what you mean about resisting some of these threads. Mind you I am sure my living to post here is the result of my penfriend from when I was 11 growing up to be a reiki practitioner / aura healer (whatever that is ) and sending me healing Just as well it happened in that phase as she is now operating a franchise for some American positivity cult.....

I know, some of the 'woo' threads can be annoying, even though I can be a bit 'woo' myself sometimes. But I must confess I had reiki myself too, once. And although it was hard not to laugh watching the guy perform, and it didn't bring me any long term benefits, I did experience some very strange sensations in my dodgy arm immediately after the session, and for some time afterwards. I don't believe that they were all in my mind, as I was not a believer, I only had it tacked onto the end of a nice relaxing massage as an afterthought, because he offered, and it was free.

Sometimes there are things that are inexplicable, I guess, and I'm glad that is the case. Makes life so much more interesting.

I am probably more woo healing than most but I must admit that I prefer some science (eg acupuncture where there has been recent trial to say it does help with cancer fatigue). But there are some things I have tried that are plain waste of time (homeopathy ).

kurri it is hard to resist sometimes - is it a Halloween effect but there do seem more of spiritual threads of late?

Those films looks good copthall and your dd antics did make me smile. Hope my girls end up on similar terms.

I have no problem with people trying out things they think will make them feel better, - and I know lots of people enjoy reiki and say it makes them relaxed. Same with acupuncture _ i know lots of people who say it helps and I would try it. And you all know I'm a yoga freak - which probably makes me a bit woo

It's when people pay out money to cold readers - obvious con artists - who claim some member of their family is trying to contact them, - its upsetting, and cynical.

Same with 'spiritual healing' - I remember as a child my brother was very ill in hospital, and some religious woman grabbed me and dragged me off to the chapel to pray for him, 'God will heal him' - I doubt it, he's got cerebral palsy, - if God is there why did he land my lovely brother with that?

Anyway - it's my hobby horse and I'll get off it before I have a stroke

Just made some guacamole for tea with a very unripe avocado - it is very lumpy - I have flung in loads of garlic and chilli to disguise the rock like shards of avocado

When is MAS getting back - is it tonight?

Hey Ned :)
I made your Dorset apple cake yesterday and it was absolutely delicious so thank you very much.
I have regular acupuncture and it has all sorts of benefits for me.At £35 pounds a time it is expensive but I manage it fortnightly.

KK I also found yoga really useful during my treatment and tend to think it is worth trying anything that might make you feel better. However it is hard to work out who is charlatan or deluded from those people that can make a genuine difference. My penfriend means well but she is mad as a box of frogs and hops on any passing bandwagon, wouldn't surprise me at all if she started thinking she could communicate with the other side, she was into Tarot cards at one point, and I vaguely remember some ouija boarding (that thing with a glass and letters) when that was a fad. At the moment she is dividing her time between courses that give "real power in shifting the nature of what is possible in people's lives" and Farmville....

I've had acupuncture in the past too. That's about as woo as I've got, but would recommend it.

Kurri, that story about your brother just about sums it up. People can be so bloody annoying. When I had first mastectomy, a woman tried to kneel by my bed to pray for me. I had to tell her I didn't want her to and a lovely nurse came and shut my curtains and made me a cuppa. G'ah...I love guacamole though. Hurl some this way, as I don't mind crunchy one bit.

Waving to greylady. Dorset Apple Cake sounds delicious. Must go back and print off that link.

We trained it over to Kew today to see the leaves. Perfect day for it.

I think MAS must be back tonight, as surely DS is at school in the morning. MAS are you out there??

I'm back !!!!!! missed you all very much, but I did have a nice time and MIL seemed very pleased I'd come - we had a lovely lunch out yesterday - T was very happy as he loves it there. We found a nice ice cream farm too and bought tubs of pistachio and pecan and vanilla to take home. Went to bed at 8.30 yesterday evening and slept a really long time.Dh cooked lunch today and we left at about 3. Feeling a bit poorly now even though dh (bless him) drove both ways. Will catch up properly tomorrow- am v glad to be home but also glad I went

Hooray, you're home. Must have been quite a thing just to be away. Am not at all surprised you're tired. Go sleep. xx

anyone?

Glad you are home and it was not too horrid mas.

MRI scan later on my leg so wish me luck. I hope it's not more cancer (seems unlikely ) and more to point that its some sort of muscle damage that physio can help. I am fed up with not being able to bend my leg properly as getting on socks a trial.

Anyone else watch I am a celeb?

Yes please to the cuppa Gigs
Will you get your scam results today ?
Keeping everything crossed for you .

Welcome home Mas , hope you are feeling better today .

Got dermatology apt this afternoon . Must have been some referral letter the GP wrote to get me seem this quickly !

here too please, Gig. Positive vibes for the scan later. Be better once you know, but I'd bet it's rads damage, which is a sod, but at least not cancer. Failed to watch I'm a celeb. Will go google to see who's on, other than that Nadine MP woman.

Topsy, yay for referral. Hope they give you zappy drugs which work by teatime (unlikely I know, but a nice thought..!)

Morning lovely ladies!

Am back after busy weekend in London town with parents, DSis, DB and DSisIL2B. Went to see Phantom of the Opera in west End on Saturday afternoon, which was amazing, then Fortnum and Mason's wine bar for wine and nibbles, then Italian tapas restaurant for supper, then fancy hotel on Piccadilly for night with sister. Excellent time had by all Engineering works meant trains took forever to get home though. Boo. . .

I am now to be known as Mrs Itchy from Itchyland. . . In addition to itchiness under boob, which apparently is fungal, I also have urticaria, red spots of itchiness from neck to feet. Have got different antihistamines and steroid cream, but the red spots are winning so far. . . Any thoughts about what I can put in the bath? Did have a soak with some of DSs Oilatum eczema bath oil yesterday, which helped a bit. Might have to try again. Am quite fed up with itching now. Only positive is that it is not on my face yet so at least I don't look like I've got leprosy when fully clothed. . .

Glad to hear Dorset Apple cake worked well greylady Enjoy!

gracie how's your itching? Well done on getting the first Herceptin done. ! down, 17 to go. . . count them off, lovely lady, count them off x x

gigs all positive vibes for scan. Let us know?

topsy yay for referral. Hope you can get something fancy to sort you out.

MAS hope you had a good sleep in your own bed last night? Well done for going!

Waves to smee, kurri, sometimes copthall and anyone else around this soggy morning. More anyone?