i would like support as i do want the mmr vaccination for my daughter!!!!!!

[holben]

I have a 3 yr old dd who had the mmr done seperately the first time. But is now due for her booster. Me and my family all feel the same on this. I realise that there are alot of parents who feel very strongly that you should the mmr as it is. But for me if there is the smallest doubt that this could be linked to autisim then that for me is enough!!! The reason i am posting on here is because i can get the signular jabs for measles and rubella through a private clinic in Birmingham, but unable to get the mumps, and i have seen people saying that they are getting this done and i am wondering if they have found somewhere they can get the mumps from??? If not are parents just having the two done and leaving the mumps?? Also i suppose i am wanting to see how many parents feel the same as me and what they are doing about the singular vaccinations, also any words of support/advice as to what to say to the doctors when i tell them i am not having the mmr with them. I really do not think it is fair that they will not licence the mumps into the country, surely this is our choice to make, plus we are paying alot of money to this done. I am really very grateful for your responses.

I've never had any difficulties with my doctors' surgery on the issue of which vaccines, if any, to have. It's your choice. The surgery used to write to us with reminders and someone (can't remember from where) rang me in the end. I just said we were delaying for the time being so they took me off their reminder list.
That doesn't help you with your question about Mumps, of course. I thought it still wasn't available as a single? That's one vaccine I wasn't going to give to DS anyway so it wouldn't have been a problem. When he's older, I can always look at that again.

Being a girl mumps isn't as dangerous as for a boy. She could of course catch it and pass it on to a boy, but I thought the main risk was to a man's fertility.

Yes, agree with Duracell.

www.nhs.uk/Conditions/Mumps/Pages/Complications.aspx

The NHS website is worth a read.

I would. Certainly has a worse safety record than the mmr. How do you know that mumps can't cause autism?

Go do the MMR. It doesn't cause autism, you'll have one visit, no hassle, a licensed and well kept vaccine (rather than some dodgy imports with an odd measles strain or so).

There is no link to autism.

But that aside - the reason MMR boosters were introduced is because it was found that not every one got lifetime immunity from a single jab.

Which means that some people do get life long immunity, others it wears of in a few years and for the rest the immunity is there for more years.

So........................

Have your daughter's immunity tested. If she is currently immune to all three then rethink in a couple of years - but not too many.

I agree with CJTV though - MMR is safe, a single jab will be imported and will be an old 'recipe' for want of a better word.

DON'T DO IT! I've spent hours and hours researching vaccs and read all I can find and I will never give my children any vaccs. My first son had them untill 2 and was sickly had recurring throat infections fevers untill I took him to homeopath and was fine since he's 15 now and v healthy.My daughter hasn't had any and is a strapping 12 yr old and my latest 11mths hasn't had any never been ill besides a couple of mild colds. IMO they DO cause autism and DO cause many other problems-autism has increased massively-WHY? Mumps etc are simple childhood diseases that healthy children fight and build up their immune systems from.Nowadays their immune has nothing to do and goes haywire thus all the other childhood problems that are so prevalent.The best thing you can do is research to put you mind at rest and don't bow down to pressure from doctors and hv -they get bonuses for getting everyone done! IMO it's just legalised drug pushing it's a massive business worth billions and will never change it's up to the individual to educate themselves on the subject. I could go on forever I feel so strongly about this and parents should support each other when deciding not to subject their children to this abuse.:/

LMCG what an absolutly ridiculous thing to say.

The reason why these diseases are no longer deadly is because of vaccinations.

It's completely up to you what you do with your children. But your claims are based on opinion and not fact.

People used to die because of those types of diseases because they lead to complications FFS

Btw I had the MMR as a child, and my DD has just had her first one.

LMCG..... Ok you are doing what you feel is best for your children and I respect that but.......

There is no real hard evidence to suggest that vaccines cause things like autism - all the hype was from one paper!! Yes they can cause complications, bit only if the child is allergic to parts of the vaccine or highly sensitive to the disease, kids can get sick from vaccines but that's because they catch a very mild form of the disease.

There is hard evidence to show that measles, mumps and all the other 'simple childhood diseases' as you call them can kill your children! This can happen at any age even adult - just because they are happy and healthy into their teens does not mean they won't catch these diseases as an adult and ultimately die from them. Many of these diseases are simple if caught as a child but cause a hell of a lot of complications in adults - blindness, deafness, limb loss and death.
Sorry but I can't see how anyone would not immunise their children when the risks from vaccines are so small and the risks of the diseases are so high! However, it is not worth kids getting the chicken pox vaccine unless they have other health conditions.

Please OP get your child immunised - the MMR is perfectly safe (well not 100% but safer than the diseases which are now coming back because of children not getting immunised!) Utimatley do what you think best as a parent.

(My 'qualifications' for my answer: My uncle is a top scientist in the field of disease and immunisation so I phone him before every vaccine my DS has and he says 'yes' or 'No' FWIW the yes list is MMR, Polio, meningitis, Diptheria and I think another I can't remember and the No list has been Chicken pox and bird flu! )

I am in the same position as you in that my DD (4) has had all her vaccinations apart from MMR. She's had the single measles and rubella jabs and booster for measles, but at the moment there is no single for mumps and probably unlikely to have one in the future. So at the moment she is unvaccinated for mumps. My DS (7), had single vaccines too and he did have mumps. It's a difficult decision and every child and parent is different, but I think you should go with your gut feeling and do what you believe us best.

Apparently the cases of measles, mumps and rubella have now shot through the roof again ( according to our doctor), is due to lack of immunisations again

Also I can't understand how anyone could call getting your children vaccinated is abuse - leaving your children prone to deadly diseases is abuse IMHO! My opinions in vaccines are based on years and years of research by a specialist in the field (who gets no commission for this or for jabs given so could say 'no' or 'yes' to allow them and would make no difference) so if you 'do your own research properly and thoroughly and with a knowledge of the diseases I don't see how anyone could come up with any other conclusion other than vaccines are a good thing!! Children's immune systems still have plenty to do as they use their immune systems to create the immunity to the vaccine in exactly the same way they would with the disease but in a much less risky way so that argument is utter rubbish!! (Also parents who religiously sterilise everything are not helping their kids immunity but that is another topic!)

Sorry but LMGC has made me do angry - not through her choice as that's up to her, but by her obvious lack of real knowledge on the subject and then telling others to put their children at risk because of her limited research!

Lmgc. Autism has increased because it is now getting diagnosed where as before they were just "difficult" or "odd" children.

What utter tripe.

To add to my last post - of course there are exceptions - if your child has an existing condition of the immune system or certain other illnesses it is not advised that they get certain if any vaccines. This is because they need the immune system to work on the mutated or synthetic form of the disease in the vaccine.

I stopped reading at homeopath.

There was a discussion about the single mumps on another thread here scroll down to the post from 1Guy last Sunday. Makes interesting reading. I'm waiting for single mumps too

As I pointed out in last post it was IMO. I'd be interested to see what, if any research has been done by angry posters????? I feel the same anger that you expect me follow all the other 'sheep' and have my child vaccinated. I have looked at BOTH arguments and made an INFORMED DECISION after reading books/leaflets/internet and speaking to other people not just ONE report. Autism IS increasing as are numerous other diseases and conditions that have never been around in such high numbers such as meningitis. The high numbers of odd children have never been as high as the numbers of autistic children, the figures speak for themselves. Properformer why does your uncle say No to some and yes to others?? Does he work for/supply information for the government?? Inform yourselves about the numbers of vaccine damaged children, what they contain, how they don't work and widen your knowledge ?? but you know what they say ignorance is bliss :/ www.jabs.org.uk www.foresightpreconception.org.uk www.wddty.com www.healing-arts.org www.vaccinetruth.org www.wanttoknow.info wwwheilkunst.com www.naturalnews.com www.greenhealthwatch.com www.mercola.com - just a few to be going on with lots more out there

plenty of research has been done and published by proper scientist.
without no vaccine would be authorised. yes they have side effects but they are usually much less than the actual illness.

Unfortunately, LMCG if your decision is informed by bollocks, (don't trust everything you read on the internet) then it's not necessarily a good decision.

My cousin is severely autistic. He wasn't vaccinated so it can't be blamed on that. That hasn't stopped many people (strangers phoning them up) badgering the family to try to join legal action against vaccine manufacturers. I imagine if he had been vaccinated there would have been a lot more pressure on them to make the link.

I would second sashh. Have her immunity checked first, then you can make your decision based on that.

noblegiraffe - your cousins family have total strangers phoning them up, unsolicited, to join legal action against vaccine manufacturers?

how odd.

is this recent? which vaccine/manufacturer?

I have never come across this at all - not from personal experience (dd1 has severe autism), nor from any other family I know (dd1 has attended 3 different ASD schools. I know a lot of families with severely autistic children.)

OP: if I were you, the first thing I would do is get a titre test done to check your dd's immunity. 30% of mumps cases are subclinical, so there is a chance your dd has had it without you even knowing.

I note you don't link or reference actual scientific papers, or accredited websites, simply pressure groups with an anti-vacc agenda LMCG. Even the discredited paper you vaguely refer to doesn't actually say what you think it says (its part of my job to read such papers) the media whipped this into such a frenzy that it was blown out of proportion. They should be prosecuted for attempted man slaughter imo.

Please stop peddalling your untruths.

LMGC he doesn't say 'no' to certain vaccines as such but more 'it's not worth it. For example the chicken pox vaccine is not much different from the actual disease and it can cause complications so it's not worth getting it as a child, however it is worth it if you have not had CP by adulthood it is worth it as it can be much more dangerous in adults.

I do agree that vaccines can damage children But far less than the diseases they protect against - diseases that would have been eradicated from the uk if all parents immunised their children. Complications from vaccines are much lower in percentage of children vaccinated/children getting complications to children getting the disease/children getting complications because of the diseases.
The small pox vaccine caused complications in some children and yet it has wiped out a fatal and disturbing disease.

My uncle does not work for the government.