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Anyone who has a child/children

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holdenmcgroin1979 · 19/08/2012 22:14

that hasn't vaccinated? Starting to think I am the only one as out of my group of friends I am the only one whose children aren't.

OP posts:

chocoluvva · 20/08/2012 14:25

My DCs 13 and 15 have never had the MMR.

LeBFG · 21/08/2012 15:49

Why are they not vaccinated holdenmcgroin?

bumbleymummy · 22/08/2012 08:43

Probably because she decided not to vaccinate them LeBFG.

Welcome to the board Holden. :) There are lots of people here who have opted for different vaccine schedules - delayed, more spaced out, selective vaccinators and people who haven't vaccinated at all. Some people aren't too happy about that but I'm sure you've had plenty of experience of that in real life anyway. Hope you stick around!

LeBFG · 22/08/2012 11:48

Ermm, bit circular don't you think bm? She chose not to vaccinate because she decided not too. A well considered argument, as usual.

By the way, you never did answer what the vaccination status for your children was (asked long ago on another thread). So, what is it?

LeBFG · 22/08/2012 11:58

One 'to' not 'too' obviously. Still waiting for a reply from holdenmcgroin....

bumbleymummy · 22/08/2012 11:58

You didn't ask why she 'chose' not to vaccinate them, you asked why they weren't vaccinated. They aren't vaccinated because she chose not to vaccinate them. Simple. Her reasons for that aren't really any of your business. You'll probably disagree with whatever reason she gives anyway.

LeBFG · 22/08/2012 12:13

Oh stop being silly bm. She posted on here to tell the MN world she doesn't vaccinate. I asked a simple question 'why'. I take offense to your last sentence. A few posters on this board have given good reasons not to vaccinate - I wouldn't dare to presume she was just 'anti-vax'

bumbleymummy · 22/08/2012 12:18

Machadaynu · 22/08/2012 12:20

We've never got around to it. I took the kid for her first one and she got upset, so DP said she wanted to take her in future, so it's off my 'to-do' list, and seemingly has never cropped up on hers.

I think she has to be up-to-date to go to nursery though, so will have to get it sorted I suppose.

LeBFG · 22/08/2012 12:27

Yeah, probably a good idea machadaynu.

LaVolcan · 22/08/2012 12:31

She posted on here to tell the MN world she doesn't vaccinate.

How do you know this? What makes you think it wasn't a genuine question? She wonders if she's the only one - judging by the responses it looks as though she may well be.

LeBFG · 22/08/2012 12:55

Ohh, 'Starting to think I am the only one as out of my group of friends I am the only one whose children aren't [vaccinated]' gives me the clue. Don't you agree this is announcing she doesn't vaccinate?

'What makes you think it wasn't a genuine question?' - absolutely nothing at all. I never insinuated that she was anything less than genuine. You're getting very touchy LaVolcan. I am genuinely interested as to why she has chosen not to vaccinate.

LaVolcan · 22/08/2012 13:19

I think you're the one who is getting a tad touchy BFG.

I took the OPs statement at face value. How else should she have phrased it? Did you vaccinate your children yes/no? It's a bit blunt, and might elicite a response, 'non of your damn business' so to question if she is the only one softens it a bit.

LeBFG · 22/08/2012 14:02

Err, I didn't say or even imply she was the only one. I also took her post at face value. Which is why I asked a perfectly simple and reasonable question.

LeBFG · 22/08/2012 14:07

Oops, thought that was referring to me...heat getting to me. What a silly continuation however. I simply asked 'why' What's wrong with that?

BeaWheesht · 22/08/2012 14:15

Ok, this thread is a bit mental is it not? Ask a simple question and all that...

OP - my kids are vaccinated but I did delay them and space them out. The health professionals I came into contact with were VERY anti me doing this so I can only imagine things must be tough if you don't vaccinate at all! You aren't the only one though.

LeBFG · 22/08/2012 14:17

Did you have a reason for delaying and spacing them out Bea?

bumbleymummy · 22/08/2012 14:45

Why are you asking LeBFG? So you can find fault with her decision?

BeaWheesht · 22/08/2012 14:46

Because I wanted to? ;)

Well quite a few of them were delayed because I wanted my kids to be 100% when they got them whereas the surgery do them unless temp consistently 38+ and they are lethargic and very ill.

Also spaced them out because I think its a lot for the immune system to handle all at once.

LeBFG · 22/08/2012 15:11

Oh, bm. Jumping the gun as usual.

Bea I can understand why you delayed. Was it not easy to rebook very quickly? It does seem like they are given a lot at once. I'm surprised how well my DS was after each lot. Babies immune systems are surprisingly robust!

I know of two people who don't vaccinate OP (between them totalling eight children). You are not alone. One is religious and objects to things like GMOs, antibiotics and doctors as well as vaccines. The other is VERY woo and thinks her magic mud is more effective. Two contracted measles as teenagers and spent over a week in hospital. I have heard of posters on these boards whose DC have problems with their immune systems. Some have food allergies and would have/have reacted to the vaccines. There are many reasons why people don't vaccinate. I like to keep a mental record of why they chose to opt out.

LaVolcan · 22/08/2012 15:21

Out of curiosity, why do you like to keep a mental record of why they choose to opt out?

LeBFG · 22/08/2012 16:45

It's a topic of interest. I was also a veggie once and like to know why others choose this lifestyle. I became very interested in vaccinations after assuming everyone vaccinated and then encountering the people mentioned in my last post. The risks of not vaccinating came home like a thump when the two teenagers fell ill a week after I visited their family with premmie DS (at that point unvaccinated). I knew they weren't vaccinated so my fault for the exposure. I then found MN and found others choose not to vaccinate as well. They do so for a myriad of reasons. Some valid, others based just on 'feelings'.

I want to know how much of why people choose not to vaccinate is a product of society and how much is truely personally decided. In France, people are fine with the MMR for example but make a fuss about heb B. Are you not interested in why people choose not to vaccinate?

bumbleymummy · 22/08/2012 16:50

How do you determine whether someone's reasons are valid or good?

LeBFG · 22/08/2012 16:54

I'll give you some examples: 'I have hayfever, my DC are likely to inherit this. I will not vaccinate as they may have a reaction'. Or, 'some of my friends don't vaccinate, there must be something wrong with the vaccine. I won't vaccinate'. Worse, 'I don't trust doctors. THe doctor says I should vaccinate. I will not do so'. Do you think these are good reasons bm?

bumbleymummy · 22/08/2012 17:13

I don't think it's up to me to decide whether they are good or bad tbh. I wouldn't tell someone not to vaccinate based on those reasons but then I wouldn't ever tell someone not to vaccinate for any reason! It's not my decision to make.

What about a child whose older sibling has been vaccine damaged? Is that a valid reason?

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