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Any old prolapse! Uterus/womb prolapse, rectocele, cystocele, enterocele, urethrocele, incontinence, pelvic floor, anterior and posterior repair, TVT etc part 4

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Ben10NeverAgain · 06/04/2012 19:43

This is thread 3 of a long-running series of posts from ladies suffering from pelvic prolapses to support each other through the process of diagnosis, repair and recovery.

Here are the previous threads:
Thread 1
Thread 2

Info from BBC Health

What is a pelvic prolapse?

As the muscles, ligaments and supporting tissues in the pelvis become weaker, they are less able to hold in the organs of the pelvis such as the womb (uterus) or bladder.

Gravity pulls these organs down and, in the more severe cases, may appear through the entrance to the vagina.

A variety of problems can occur, depending on where the weakness lies and which organs are able to descend, but in every case there is some degree of prolapse of the vaginal wall, which begins to invert (rather like a sock turning inside out).
Prolapse of the womb or uterus is the most common prolapse, affecting as many as one in eight older women to some degree
Prolapse of the bladder, known as a cystocele, is less common.
Prolapse of the urethra (the tube that carries urine out of the bladder) is known as a urethrocele.
Prolapse of the intestines is quite rare, and known as an enterocele or rectocele.

Symptoms

Symptoms depend on which tissues descend, and how severe the prolapse is.

They may include:
A sense of heaviness or pressure in the pelvis.
The appearance of a bulge of tissue in the genital area, which can be quite alarming, and is often red and sore.
Urinary problems, such as having to urinate more frequently, feeling the need urgently, being incontinent (losing control of the bladder) or, conversely, being unable to pass urine when you need to.
Pain in the pelvis or lower back.
Sexual problems, including pain and decreased libido.
Constipation.
Vaginal discharge or bleeding.

Treatment and recovery

Once a prolapse has developed, surgery to fix the affected organs is usually the only way to cure it effectively.

However, another option is to use a device known as a vaginal ring pessary. This is rather like a contraceptive diaphragm or cervical cap. It's made of silicone or latex, and placed in the vagina to push back the prolapsed organs and hold them in place. Many women happily manage their prolapse this way.

OP posts:
roseanna1 · 01/07/2012 11:55

Morning all...what a beautiful day outside!

How is everyone today?

roseanna1 · 01/07/2012 11:57

Happy by name .... :o

lalabaloo · 01/07/2012 14:04

Hi, sorry to jump on your thread, I'm very worried. I have what I thought was really bad piles, but it's just one pinky red lump and its huge, it's behind my anus, could it be something more serious like a prolapse? It just appeared yesterday and it is very very uncomfortable. I think I'm going to have to go to the doctors but I really don't want to. I had a baby seven weeks ago, I'm really worried something has ended up where it shouldn't :( can anyone help?

surewoman · 01/07/2012 14:20

Hi lalabaloo - try not to panic. Can you poke it back in and does it go away if you lie on your back with your legs in the air? Could be a prolapse, a hernia of the small intestines or rectum, or a varicose veign. Could also be a spot/abcess or something similar (not that I am in anyway medical!) Either way you must go and see your GP, and don't be embarassed - you have just had a baby and doctors see this sort of thing all the time. Good luck xxx (let us know what it was, please?)

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lalabaloo · 01/07/2012 14:44

Hi, thank you for your replies, I can't push it back in. It does hurt a lot. I'm going to have to go to the doctors tomorrow, I was really hoping it would just fix itself :(

roseanna1 · 01/07/2012 14:50

Good luck lala and let us know how you get on x

lalabaloo · 01/07/2012 14:55

Thank you, I will let you know how it goes.

Skinikki · 01/07/2012 19:52

Well it's pre op for me tomorrow and then surgery on Friday. Have been reading all the posts here and like most people am pretty nervous. Don't even know how long I will be in hospital for. Think I need to jot down a few questions so I don't forget things. Is there anything in particular I should be asking??

fengirl1 · 01/07/2012 20:02

Hi Skinikki, the things that spring to mind are pain, bleeding, making sure you can go for a wee / bm, lifting, other activities like housework etc, driving, compression stockings and anti-clotting injections. If you work be sure to ask if they give you a certificate and how long it covers. Also when you will have a post-op checkup and who with. Think that covers it! Smile

Skinikki · 01/07/2012 21:00

Thank you Fen. I have already told work I won't be back this term (only two weeks left after the op and then it's the summer hols) I have a very active job, on my feet all day with lots of running around so not going to be able to do much of that I think. Am scheduled to have an anterior repair and a tvt, any ideas on how long they will,keep me in? Am lucky enough to be going to a private hospital so at least I will have my own facilities :-) Really want to come home asap so keeping my fingers crossed things will go smoothly.

roseanna1 · 01/07/2012 22:20

Hi Skinikki, doc told me 3-4 days for any pelvic floor repair. I had a posterior repair only, but got out the afternoon on the day following surgery as I had no problems. Didn't have a tvt though, so not sure how that might impact things.

You might want to check on whether you will get any physio before leaving hospital too. I had mine done privately too, and did find the quiet and the privacy a bonus.

Best of luck.x

surewoman · 01/07/2012 23:00

Hi Skinikki - I had tvt, anterior and posterior on a Friday morning and was let out on Monday afternoon. I think with the anterior plus tvt they like to monitor you a bit longer to make sure there are no problems with urine retention and you will have a catheter for 48 hours (mine came out on the Sunday). I have been told to be really careful afterwards as the anterior is quite delicate and mustn't be strained. The posterior is probably a bit more painful as you have to sit on it, so to speak and the tvt is just weird! I have been told absolutely no pelvic floor exercises for 6 weeks after the tvt op, and will need to consultant's permission before I start them. Good luck with it all, and keep us posted X

I really liked the company on the gynae ward; we all kept each other's spirits up and had loads of laughs (stitches permitting) between the morphine, tramadol and bad food, not to mention the day our bowels all started moving again - talk about noisy/smelly!!!)

Talking of the tvt, thank god I have just got that inserted as I spent the afternoon reading the Mumsnet version of Shades of Grey and would have spent the entire time hobbling to the loo I was laughing so much! Grin worth a look!! We have some budding authors in our midst. x

Skinikki · 02/07/2012 09:35

Thank you Roseanna, I have been reading about your ordeal! Really hope you are on the mend now.
Surewoman, I will be watching your recovery with interest as will only be a week behind you. This forum has been so informative so far but it always scarey when you undergo the knife (especially down there!!!!)
I have just finished all three of the Shades of Grey books which is probably just as well!
Have just downloaded 'The Room' to read whilst I convalesce. Not quite so raunchy I believe!!
Will report back once I have had the pre op appointment today.

fengirl1 · 02/07/2012 09:42

Hi Skinikki, hope everything goes well today. Smile

Livelongandprosper · 02/07/2012 11:05

Good morning all.

I've been lurking for quite a while, reading the threads and thinking "that's me that is" but still hoping I could avoid surgery if I ignored my symptoms for long enough.

Have been having trouble pooing for quite a few years now and recently have been also having trouble weeing. A big bulge has appeared just inside my vagina on the front wall.

After a long courtship with my fanjo, my bladder has finally moved in with it. My cervix has moved down to join them and on a bad day my rectum comes in to stay for a while.

I'm 55, do a physically demanding job with lots of lifting and pushing of heavy loads and do lots of walking as a hobby. This seems to be making things worse. I finally saw my GP six weeks ago when I had to concede that if I didn't do something my insides were going to be forced out of my fanjo and I would surely then turn completely inside out.

I saw a consultant a couple of weeks ago. He said I have a grade 3 cystocele and also need either a hysterectomy or a repair to hitch the uterus up. He will decide re the hysterectomy when I am on the operating table and he sees how far my uterus will come out of the vagina. He couldn't see a rectocele presumably because I was lying flat on my back for the examination and had emptied my bowel because I was so nervous. I did tell him I often can't have a bowel movement for 9 days because my rectum pushes forward into my vagina but I don't think he believed me because he couldn't see it at the time.

Hospital admissions have just called me. My op will be on the 12 July. Blimey, I'm so nervous I might not even have to wait 9 days for my next bowel movement.

I would like to join you, I could do with some virtual hand-holding please.

surewoman · 02/07/2012 11:53

Welcome Livelong - this site is a godsend for moral support as it is a very scary business this prolapse nonsense. Maybe you have got an enterocele rather than a rectocele - I had one of those and also couldn't poo for 9/10 days (it's when your small intestines fall down between the vagina and rectum, so everything gets stuck in the u-bend before it even gets to the rectum). If so, they can only really see it once you are diced!!! It's nice to see they are seeing you relatively quickly, must be bad? Hmm. Best of luck with it all x

surewoman · 02/07/2012 11:54

Skini - how did it go???

surewoman · 02/07/2012 11:54

Fen/Roseanna - how are you both today?

Skinikki · 02/07/2012 13:48

Well, back from the pre op and all went ok. I usually get white coat syndrome when I have my BP taken but it was text book today so that was a relief. Had a blood test, which I wasn't expecting and as usual my veins went into hiding so they took it from my hand.....that was a first. Have to have another Thursday then in for the op at 11am on Friday. They said they were hoping to keep me in for 2 nights should it all go according to plan so am hoping to be home Sunday. Just want it to be all over and done with now.

roseanna1 · 02/07/2012 14:57

Hi livelong, its odd making that transition between knowing there is something wrong, having it diagnosed, and then being told you are having surgery in a matter of days isn't it? I was totally worked up about it, but honestly the waiting is the worst part.

Skinikki - so glad your pre op.went well and sounds like all going well your stay should be short. Please don't let my posts alarm you, as the reality is I've just had some bleeding and a bad chest infection, but to my shame have gotten completely worked up about everything, worring if this, that or the other could be wrong. So thankful for the wonderful, strong ladies on this site for sharing their experiences and their kind and supportive words.

Sure - am good today thanks. Woke up yesterday and had a word with myself so am determined to have a renewed positive attitude! How are you getting on?

Fen/pip - hope you're both well xx

Am off now to read this mumsnet variation on shades of gray lol

roseanna1 · 02/07/2012 15:14

PS. Don't know if you're still reading Shattered, but best of luck for your surgery tomorrow:)

Gailjen5 · 02/07/2012 16:10

Hi ladies, I'm new here but have been reading since I had my rectal prolapse repair 5 weeks ago, I was doing really well up till 10 days after my Op had a day of dizziness/feeling sick from then on I've had this pressure pain making me feel like I need a wee after about 15 minutes of going, went back to the woman's A&E dept they thought it could be due to not emptying my bowls enough, they changed my pain killers, it has gone a bit easier but an still getting this pressure, down really low at the front. Has anyone had this experience? I'm due back at work next week but don't think I can manage it :(

surewoman · 02/07/2012 18:13

Hi Gail - the gp would, I'm sure, extend your sick leave. No point being a trojan about this. Don't forget it is/was major surgery and you have to look after yourself. How big was your rectal prolapse? Sometimes one can mask the other and it is not till you get your rectum sorted out that you then find you have a bladder prolapse? Not trying to scare you, just a thought. Could also be a bladder infection/cystitis?? I would go and see your GP as soon as... xxx

surewoman · 02/07/2012 18:24

Skini - glad that went ok for you. Op next !!! x

Roseanna - I'm getting there slowly. Very tired though as I keep waking up at 3.30 a.m. needing to wee, and then can't get back to sleep as I hurt and it is too early for painkillers. Tried to leave some off today so I could take some at night but only resulted in me feeling like rubbish, aching, pulling, burning, etc. etc. so not there yet. Can't wait to be off the iron pills as my BMs do not like them!! Glad you are feeling a bit more positive and determined; it probably knocked you for six all the bleeding etc. Not what you want to help you heal well x

Fen/Pip and whoever else is still 'off sick' , happy healing vibes your way x

Shattered, good luck tomorrow x

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