Rectocele & Repairs continued....

[CAZ1958]

Rectocele & Repairs...continuation

Hiya Ladies...
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Will come back with a link if poss !!!
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Littleweeble, how wonderful that it all happened so quickly! Now you really have to take your recovery seriously and rest, rest and rest a bit more. Let everything heal nicely and don't even think about emptying the washing machine, pushing anything aside with your foot or driving! It is well worth giving the surgery the respect it deserves in the long run.

Tink, I really understand where you are coming from with this fear but you absolutely have to do it all, the only choice is leaving it and becoming that little old lady who has trouble with her bowels ( everybody's nightmare). You owe it to yourself to embrace everything that is offered with a glad heart and be grateful that these weird people have chosen this as their careers!!! I have gone through it all, as have many on this site, and there is a wealth of experience logged on this and the previous two sites just to give you a taster of what is to come. I think I have said before that you have to leave your dignity in a bag at the door, go through each procedure, say 'thank you' to that strange person who conducted it, have a little cry, talk to a friend, have a cup of tea and a laugh, then come on this site and tell us all about it. We are all there to support you and goodness knows we understand your experiences. Be brave...think about that lovely new relationship and don't fret too much. If he is worth his salt he will love you even if you have stitches and lumpy bits. it is going to be a long journey but you will feel better at the end of it, that will make it worth it. Those people who have seen your insides, outsides, and know more about you than you would ever wish won't even recognise you when you go back for a checkup so the embarrassment is short lived. I am wondering Bach Rescue Remedy would be a really good idea?
Don't let the consultant be aloof or brief with you, they are paid a FORTUNE to look after YOU! Why they think they are SO important I don't know, they are only there because you are ill. My third one was absolutely amazing! The second one was a PLONKER and thank God the first didn't do what he was intending!!
Xxx

tinkxx65 - Jackie62 has given you wonderful advice here. We are all at different stages and I think as we move along it does become a case really digging deep and facing these challenges to get well. It took me quite a while to seek advice - when I did make an appointment I didn't want to see my own GP because I've been with him for over 20 years and could face it. Instead I saw a female. I still don't want him to examine me but he has been very supportive. I have felt hugely supported by this forum for the last few months but only felt ready to post anything myself this week.

I moved from extreme embarrassment to a sort of out of body experience where I viewed everything as a 'black comedy'. At my hospital they hold pre-op physio classes - I thought French and Saunders were going to pop out when they did 'pass the plastic pelvis' with all the accompanying bits that slotted in.

I have been very lucky to have a close friend who had a rectocele repair a year ago and I have been able to share the most intimate experiences with her. She had a pessary that had proved helpful so I also asked for one when I saw the consultant. That really, really helped me get through to the op as it eased the dragging to a bearable level.

So tinkxx65 - keep posting your concerns and people here who can, will try to help. You can get through this.

Jackie62 - interesting about 'back to back'. My two were that presentation with births akin to 'All Creatures Great and Small', oh and manual removal of the placenta. I think I was extremely lucky this didn't happen when I had small babies like some of the mums on here and perhaps it was inevitable that this has happened.... ignorance is definitely bliss .... but oh such a shock!

Hi again :)

I had a phone call from the hospital today (she wanted to confirm my address) and she said all the details for ALL the tests would be in the letter. As I said in an earlier post I have app with gynae tomorrow and already know that everything else is not where is should be so I am hoping I dont cry when she tells me it is all falling. Anyway thanks jacqui and wouldratherbesking, I know I have to do them and I am trying to look on the funny side of it, at least I will be able to have some interesting dinner conversation with people :). It the poo xray one that is freaking me out, I really dont think I can, but I am hoping against hope that it is not one of the tests. Hugs to you all for being so kind. Picking my son up from his work experience in a mo, so goodbye for now and take care x

Hi yet again lol,

Footle, I know and I have given myself a talking to today and guess I will just have to deal with it when the day comes, but I do wish it had picked on someone else :( I vaguely remember the consultant saying the blood was another matter, but then after he examined me he just said I had a rectocele and that I needed tests and this was all while I was getting dressed and then he went! What I meant to post earlier but forgot is, has anyone got any ideas what I should ask tomorrow? All I can think to ask is, how bad is it lol. Trying to write a list of things to say but my mind has gone blank.

Hope I am not doing your heads in :) And yes my son is enjoying his work placement even though it is at a crematorium!

What happened caz???

Tink - most of us on here knew for some time that something was wrong but took time to screw up the courage to do something about it. You're probably the same. I wouldn't say I have got as blasé about this as I did when I'd had my second and was asked if I minded if someone watched as I was being stitched - I said 'help yourself, everyone else has has a look'!!! I think it's the anticipation more than the actual event that worries us. You'll be fine!

wow a busy day today

thanks jacke62 .... I had last night just found your posts about the buttress so was going to ask you about it tonight . I have not discussed it yet with cons as I just found out by letter he had changed his mind about tvt after discussion with another urogynae cons with more experience of the urodynamics side. I cant find much info on butresses just that they insert more sutures than in just a cystocele repair placing more tissue around the neck of the bladder and supporting the utrethra . .. can you add any more info to that ?

Athough some text say its not as effective as tvt I think it migh tbe better in my case as urodynamics idication my "stream" not the strongest and they dont want me to either go into retention or make the urge incontinence worse.

speaking of which , incontinence I mean, this cough I have had all week has flipping well undone any slight improvement since last winter ....... almost any movement now can cause leeks.... tena lady manufactueres making a fortune here . On a slightly less humorous note as I coughed today while sat on the loo the force of it seems to have caused a very slight tear in me flippin perineum , it stings an bled a little !!!!!!

I just want this cough GONE.......... not just cos its damaging but I dont want op to be postponed

tink .... . I agree with footle that blood and mucous is not related to a rectocele ... its more likely to be some sort of an inflamation in the bowel and needs to be checked out by a bowel specialist.

as others have said, the professionals see this all the time. As an ex nurse I can tell you there is little they have not seen and nowt much about bodily functions that would cause any comment. Its not flipping easy though to "expose" yourself to anyone never mind strangers ( and harder sometimes if its someone you know socially !!) ..... but needs must if any chance of getting it better. chin up ....... take a deep breath and go in with your head held high. Lots of the nurses especially are good with little social "chit chat" to distract you from things !

Hi all not been on for a few days but reading furiously lol isnt it great when new people join in a bit like a party xxx The fallen fanjo club keeps getting bigger lol..... Well quick update.. went to consultant review today and planning to return to work very soon..... NOT!! :( have to go back in to get my Tvto stretched ??? I didnt even ask how that will be done could have picked me up with a feather just wanted to burst out crying. I also need a part of the tape that is exposed recovered so to speak . Told him I would be more than happy to continue as is at present which is better than before, holding onto pee for longer, no peeing when coughing/sneezing. 1 pee overnight and pooing with no hands lol..... However he says no can do. He will do ablation at same time , his words he needs to do a good rummage and cant do it while I am awake..... feeling fed up. I was just begining to feel normal, do have a toothache like discomfort which can be worse at times was happy to put up with this but he says will only get worse as it is the tape too tight and rubbing against the pelvic bones. Well needed too rant a bit so no apologies you all no how it feels... DH is as fed up as I am!! god bless..... could cheerfully have choked him xx Headlines- Member of secret society known as Fallen Fanjo club has ritually dismembered husband lol ...gotta laugh xx

oh happy ....I am roflmao re oh

and rant away ......... good to get it of yer chest !!!!!

I did not know one could stretch a tvt once it was in and getting settled ????

suppose its good that your surgeon being particular about his work even if you are happy with what most people take for granted ( never having had to splint / evacuate / provide pad manufacturers with huge profits etc etc)

actually I like the sound of your doc lol

just realised I did not answer your question jackie62 ........ having my op in the county hosptal in hereford.

Tazzle, the buttress seems to work quite well. It is a small lumpy thing at the front wall of the vagina about 2by2 cm I suppose. To begin with it seemed huge and was full of stitches in every directions so felt like a sea urchin!!
It makes things feel warm and a bit bulky, also if you lean forward the buttress puts pressure on the urethra and this makes you feel like you have wet yourself! The only real disadvantage is if you suddenly sneeze or cough, if you dont pull up your pelvic floor in time the buttress seems to jerk the urethra and wee shoots out so it is not infallible ( this happened today, luckily I was at home in the garden!)
I can say 100% that it is better than the TVT. There is no pain, pulling, dragging or pinching, and it doesn't affect being able to wee. It is just there and is part of me. I hope it will go on To be effective over time, but time will tell, it's quite a new procedure.
Definitely go for it if you have the opportunity.

happy, good luck with the stretching!
Xxx

(((hugs))) Happy

Well I definitely need this operation - good job its only Monday. The cystocele has bulged right out and there is now no room whatsoever. The rectocele and cystolcele are against each other and the pain yesterday was terrible as I had to walk DS to and from beavers and it is up a steep hill.

Tazzle Hope your cough gets better soon.

Tink I think I lost all shyness about my body when I had my son. I don't really care but I agree for some reason bum stuff is still loads more embarrassing than anywhere else on my body,

Jackie - so pleased for you that things are getting better now. You have been through hell and back with the TVT so I hope the buttress gets better and better - you deserve it x

HI just back from gynae appointment. Sort of good news, I only have a rectocele, and for some reason I felt very happy that everything else wasnt falling down. I just had to lie on the table legs akimbo and cough while he examined me, am hoping he was thorough enough now I have got home. Anyway I dont know why I feel happier because the rectocele is a horrible operation but my mood has certainly lifted.

Take care everyone x

Hello Ladies....pleased that things are slowly starting to happen for some of you.
I am finally happy-ish . Saw the gyny & everything is ALL still in place, I could of cried with happiness !!! Some inflamation on the back-site so she has taken a swab for possible infection & I have got blood in my urine. This could be the cause of my crippling backache & dragging. Got max painkillers again & off work for a week then back with restrictions.
Still pretty uncomfortable today but the massive worry has gone, what a difference a day makes !!!
Good luck to ALL of you & wishing you all a comfortable weekend.
Thanks again for being there for me
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So that must be a weight off your mind Caz and Tink!
And for heaven sake, Caz, look after yourself, go slow and listen to your body [stern look] (I'm good at those as I'm a teacher!) If you have to, take to your bed with tears at the ready.

thanks for the information jackie62 .... forewarned is forearmed as they say lol .... sounds like it will be better for me because of the mix of types of incontinence.... it might not cure the stress incontinence but less likely to perhaps obstruct the flow of urine if thats not quite as strong as it should be ehn things re not under pressure . Its all a balancing act with the medication too as I also have the overactive bladder syndrome thingy

I must admit its puzzling to me that its a new procedure as I thought it was an old one that had gone out of fashion as the tvt has "better" results in stopping stress incontinence. The texts I have found I see to vuagly remember from my training *cough years ago it being mentioned even though I did 6 weeks in the male urology ward not the female one

mind you it might be that its benefits ( plus some of the disadvantages of tape) mean that its regaining some ground if that is so.

sooooooo glad Caz you are having a better day today

glad you have a diagnosis tink............. have they said anything about the op . are you on the list or do they wanna try other stuff first ???

Anyone get pains in the fanjo? I know things are knocking on the door of falling out (and do get sore from the odd lump and bump rubbing on my knickers but that's a whole other story) but haven't had any pain there til today.... Any ideas? (Altho might be able to solve this one as I've been hoovering today??) Finally got my date today - May 6th. Feels like a long way off ATM, but at least I know now. P.S. Drs have biopsy results but not seen by a dr yet so won't release them....

Fengirl I had the knicker rubbing too!!..... kept thinking i had thrush.... much better now though still cant believe how different my fanjo lol.lol.lol.lol.. love that word loks still have a regular look in the mirror ..keep expe cting it all to fall back out xx

Happy - to start with I thought my knickers had got rucked up and then had a lightbulb moment..... The things we put up with!!!

Hi everyone,

Tazzle, the gynae said it was just a grade one rectocele and that he would have left it but as I am having problems he recommends the operation and that it will be done after I have the "bum tests" done. I am feeling if it is just small then I might not have it done. I think I have other things wrong, like I said in an earlier post I have blood in poo and mucos (gross). This might be too much information but I can go for a BM, it is just the very last bit that doesnt come out, and other times if it is not soft (sorry lol) it stays in and I cant really feel that I havent finished. I think I have piles, but no one has had a look, maybe they will when I have the tests and I used to think that is why the last bits were not coming out. Oh I dont know what to do. Will wait for the tests and then see. Being a womal is just not fun, def going to come back as a man.

"woman" lol

I had mucus in my constipated poo and when I googled it seemed as if it were a normal symptom?

I'd like to thank whoever suggested Laxido/Movicol with orange juice with bits. I've been doing that for about 4 days morning and night and am now having regular morning BM which is a decent consistency rather than pebble. Ready for my op on Monday now. I was worried about having it done if I were still so constipated and how painful BM would be after.

No probs Ben, Happy to help xx It worked for me but maybe not everyone xx
Hardly slept last night not due to pain,but back on the merry go round of waiting for op date and wondering lol xx Still not sure how they will stretch Tvto now it is embeded in tissue for 5mths ? x