Rectocele & Repairs continued....

[CAZ1958]

Rectocele & Repairs...continuation

Hiya Ladies...
Don't know if this will work, above is the Subject Title
Don't want to lose my friends.
Will come back with a link if poss !!!
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Mrsm22 - I would see a different GP. That doesn't sound right at all. Sorry I don't have any medical expertise, but I'm sure that is not normal. It certainly sounds like an infection, though if you've been given antibiotics then that probably rules it out. I would try and convey exactly how wretched it's making you feel and don't let them just dismiss it.

Thank you, i'm going back to see the uro-gynacologist tomorrow to try and push the point about how it's making me feel and hopefully get a little further. Whoever would have thought having babies would cause so many problems?!

sorry you are having to have so much surgery Ben10 and feeling nervous about the spinal :(. Re hearing stuff despite them telling you you will not remember it ...... can you ask them if you take an MP3 player in with you and listen to some music on headphones ( or ask them to play something in the operating room if they have the facilities .... some surgeons like to listen to music while they work lol) . Its understandable after your experiences that you are nervous as you know not all ops go to plan.

really sorry that you are feeling so awful Caz ((((0)))) ......... I have not reached the point yet where I can remember everyones stories yet (I think it will take a few reads of the whole thread lol) but it does sound not quite right that your downstairs feels fine but you are still sooooo tired as well as back pain ..... gp or back to hops for a check up sounds a good idea.

hello mrs22 .... I hope that despite the bladder stuff you are enjoying your precious baby ( about same age as my youngest grandaughter). Your symptoms do sound very similar to that of an overactive bladder rather than stress incontinence or anything relating to a prolapse.... has that been mentioned to you ? One of the things that is suggested for overactive bladders is to "retrain" it to wait the two hours rather than keep emptying it when you feel the need to go. I have this along with the stress stuff and am on medication to "calm" the bladder so can empathise that its no fun at all trying to go out and feeling you will "loose it" ( I have done so on several occasions ) ...... have you another appointment to feed back to gp that the physiotherapist says pelvic floor muscles ok .... great that they are !!!!

fengirl1 ........ think the results might just be the usual "time it takes" .... Id look at it this way , if there was a problem then they would be on the phone getting you back in asap. I never heard about my results till my next "regular" appoinment.

I had my preop assessment today ...... was a bit worried they'd cancle the op planned for 30th cos I have a cold and laryngitis ...... but nurse just said to see how it goes and if its waning and gone by next weekend it will be ok .......and that the anesthatist will prob ring me anyway to check its gone !!! ( I remember him from last time and he is a stickler about everything being just right / optimal for the op.)

Tazzle - I am really enjoying my baby boy, he's just perfect and 12 weeks old tomorrow. No-one has mentioned overactive bladder to me, and it does sound like it may be that. Do you find the tablets help to 'calm' the bladder down? Also, do you know what may cause overactive bladder?

Hi all

I have been reading the thread but not had much to contribute.

I wish all those with ops coming up the best of luck.

Those still feeling under the weather I do hope you are feeling better soon.

Mrs. My consultant refered to the feeling of wanting to go to the loo all the time as urge incontinence. I suffered this myself after my examination by my consultant! It did go after about a week and as my examination was rather rough I put it down to that. I wonder if the birth has caused some trauma in that area for you. I would not put up with it and would head back to the doctors but ask to see a different doctor. Unfortunately with these things you often have to explain the effect it is having on your life before the doctors do anything. So I would play up not being able to leave your house and the effect on family life when you next visit. Once they understand it is affecting your daily life they may refer you to a consultant. Hope you get some help soon.

I have a date in April for incontinence testing. Do they provide anything for the embrassment i.e. mask, anominity!!!

mrsm22

there are lots reasons for bladder being "irrritable" ... sometimes no identifiable cuase ! ...heres one link but theres many more lol

www.bladderandbowelfoundation.org/bladder/bladder-problems/overactive-bladder.asp

maybe it can be linked with childbirth too ...... and yes as pip says its also known as urge incontinence ..... when you gotta go you gotta go. Before medication I would often suddenly feel the urge, say out shopping, and just have to stand where I was no matter where and really "clench" in order to prevent gross incontinence ( and occasionally failing completely !)

medication has most definately worked for the urge side of things although it took couple tries with different medication to find the best one for me. I still have stress incontinence but hope that the surgery next week will help ..... having a bladder buttress along with the anterior and posterior repairs.

I had the urodynamics tests pip is talking about and just like in childbirth we have to leave embarrassment at the door as wego in and pick it back up again on the wayout lol .......... they see it all many times a day and are deliberatley "pushing" the bladder to make it be incontinent in a way soy we are doing what is expected !!! not much point in going otherwise *wink

Pip and Tazzle - thanks for your advice both of you. I went back to see the uro-gynacologist/consultant this morning. I'm actually going privately as i went to see my gp 3 times and she wouldn't do anything (the last time i saw the gp, she prescribed a thrush tablet)! Fortunately i have private health through my job, as we have to pay for it monthly, so i decided to take advantage of that...thought it would be quicker etc...and i hate hospitals. Anyway, today the consultant tested my urine in case of an underlying infection, but that was clear so they gave me a little scan on my bladder to check if i'm emptying properly and it appears i am. So, to start with i've been put on some tablets for a possible 'overactive bladder' as you mentioned Tazzle. I've got those for a month so hopefully they'll help. As well as that, i'm continuing with physio at the private hospital (only had one session so far), bladder training and lots of pelvic floor exercises.

Hello Ladies....hope that you are all having a reasonable day. I woke this morning to the crippling back pain & dragging underneath. Usually it has just come on during the morning gradually at work. It feels just like when I was pre-op !!! I have phoned my docs & explained the symptons & I am seeing my gyny doc tomoz. I am trying not to worry but "TMI WARNING" it
feel like the entrance is covered up again, just like before. It didn't feel like this a couple of days ago . I am so scared that my op has failed & I will have to go all through it all again !!!
I thought that everything was going so well....after almost 14 wks.
Love & Hugs to all of you
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PS
Anyone else had experience of failed ops ???
XXX

Caz - I hope that all will be well. Maybe you've been overdoing things and it's your body rebelling? Let us know how you get on and try not to worry. Your body is still healing after all and you might just need to slow down a bit. X
Have spoken to the (very off-hand to the point of rudeness) secretary today who said results are through but no letter done yet. Am hoping this means negative... Had my scan appt arrive today for 30th and had pre-op arrive yesterday (for 16th). Maybe things are moving at last! Looking forward to bring able to cross my legs again if I want to!
P.S. Will be interesting to see how I manage with not being allowed to wee before scan - will probably be dancing in the waiting room....

Oh and caz - that's nowhere close to TMI!

Hello ladies. Just to say that I'm still reading, but have nothing new to report. My surgery date is set as 23rd April, so not long now.

I've been experimenting with drinking prune juice to try and move things along a bit. Has anyone else tried it? Any idea how much I should be drinking. It's bloody vile!

I mixed the prune juice with pear or apple juice lol a bit better but still yuek!!! take prunes with ma bran flake instead of the juice now x

Hi to everyone,

I was diagnosed with a rectocele last week, (I had no idea what it was) and when I said to the consultant what do you do about that then he said...it was a stitch job and then I would need some "bum tests"!! and need to see a gynae (cant spell it) which I am seeing on Friday. I have been in the depths of despair since, cant believe it has happened, though now I have done a bit of reading I realise 4 children maybe wasnt such a good idea. My children range from 25 to 14, so to get this now (46) has been a shock, as I was always a slave to the kegel exercises, but now feel, why did I bother.

Sorry I am rambling.

Just got one question really

1. How long did it take time wise from consultation to operation (I will be having it done NHS in Hull) and just want to get it over and done with asap as I am a bit of a worrier

Bless you Fen !!!
Great news about your appt's.....you will get there . I remember having a scan years ago and not being able to wee !!! Please remind me
what you are having done ???
Fingers crossed on body rebelling, will let you know about docs.
I can barely move at the mo...
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Tink - I'm not the best person to ask as I was originally referred end aug 2011 and not got my op yet but others were much faster - 2/3 months.
Caz - the full works! Have a cystocele, rectocele and uterine prolapse... I have opted for a hysterectomy as I'm 46, done with having babies and to my mind it's as much work to hoick it up as whip it out! ( I also have had endometriosis and have adhesions from this, as well as having had very painful periods most of my life so I won't be sorry for it to go.) I hope it's all just a settling down thing for you. Good luck for tomorrow. X

CAZ1958 so sorry to hear your story. That's the trouble with these conditions - it's 'will it work?' 'will it hold?' 'what else is going to bloody go?' - it's all so uncertain. Hopefully it will improve for you if you rest up. I do hope so.

tinkxx65 - I'd never heard of this either - it seems like some hideous conspiracy against women. Saw GP after dragging myself around for a while, they referred me and I saw consultant within 2 weeks in November - op in March. After reading earlier threads I've been very lucky but it is very stressful waiting.

fengirl1 - good luck.

Littlefish - liquorice works for me but currently taking milk of magnesia prescribed by the hospital.

One week post op for rectocele I'm feeling optimistic and strangely resigned to the fact that other bits may go.

Tink. I saw the consultant in February and was told he is booked until June.

Wouldrather yes liquorice works for me too. I hope you are taking it easy after the op.

Caz hope your feeling better try to rest a bit.

sounds like a plan mrsm22 ....... brilliant to have something actually happening to tackle the issue. Here's wishing you the very best and hope that it all works.

Scans .... asking incontinent women to have a full bladder .......its like either a torture method or a troubled sense of humour thing . ctually I manged not toooooooooo bad with mine till she touched the skin with the probe eeekk...... then when she had finsihed and I had to engage muscles to get off the couch ... .eerrrrrrrrrrmm glad there was paper sheet there

so sorry Caz that you feel so rough and that things dont look as good as they were ......... fingers crossed for your apointment tomorrow. (((0)))

welcome tink ...... here there is sooo much information it takes ages to read it all . ..... dont think it was a waste of time doing the exercises , without them it might have been much worse or much sooner .

re consulation to op times ........ it is hard to say as there might be tests and / or referrals to other specialsists before they decide on best option.... they might also want to trial pessary for example. Its takem ne a year just over to go through all that from the day I told GP I just wanted everything below the waist out !!!!! I had to have scans and hysteroscopy to check out possible post menopausal bleeding ( complicated ), urodynamics tests, medication for the overactive bladder and a pessary ..... but once the decision made by surgeon and I that op needed its only been five weeks or so from that decision to planned op on 30th. The guidelines are that no one should be any longer than 18 weeks from referral to treatment or from decision to operation I am fairly sure.

:-) Thanks everyone for the replies. I will post back on here after my appointment with the gynae on friday. Fingers crossed that nothing else is caving in :-). Oh yes nearly forgot, I have to have a pressure test? Does anyone know what that is.

Wouldrather - sorry didn't mean to ignore you (my mum has pneumonia ) thanks for the thought.

Caz, really sorry to hear you are feeling so bad. I hope that it is just a blip and you feel better in a couple of days. Not good to wake up with back ache etc. I have a similar feeling with everything 'there', it feels incredibly bulky even after 12 weeks but I have not had the dreadful pain that you are getting. My main problem is still the haemotoma. Very unsettling especially when it gets cold, goes solid and audibly cracks if I move! I wonder if you could try a yoga position, lying on your back with your legs up against the wall may help take the weight for a short while especially if you place both feet firmly on the wall and lift your bottom up so it is in a straight line. That really helped me when I was throbbing inside. I hope you get a good answer from the doctor.
Mrsm, I really feel for you that you have a gorgeous baby of 12 weeks and are coping with this problem. Many of us on the site will empathise with you having had similar stories. Just out of interest was your baby a 'back to back' birth as that is a recurrent theme too. Maybe your urethra was bruised during the birth?? Michelle kenway recommends pulling up your pelvic floor and bringing in your side core muscles ( like a girdle) to prevent urge incontinence as it makes the urethra relax...may help?!
Tazzle, good luck with your surgery. Glad to hear you are having buttress, mine is working very well although it is a bit bulky( like a small sea urchin)!! Where are you having your surgery?
Tink, don't worry about the bum tests and pressure tests! I have gone into great length over time about these, just leave your dignity at the door and thank the technician very much for loving his job so much!! If you wee on the floor don't worry, you won't be the first and certainly won't be the last...just joining an elite group!!

Short story shorter.....reported rectocele to gp in november(having had it 19 years-I'm nearly 42). Saw gynae on 24th February, had op Monday(3 weeks on waiting list,wow). Did it with a spinal block, amazing. Came home today as I pooed NO HANDS yesterday. You all know how exciting that is.

I've been swept away how quick and well it has gone. I hope that it continues. The hardest part is remembering not to lift heavy things and I guess the not driving might get on my nerves at some point. :)

Hi again everyone, Hope you dont mind but I am going to post in a bit more detail re problems. I have difficulty with a number two, have to scoop the last of it out (lovely) but I also have blood in my stools and muscos blood as well, is this normal with a rectocele.

Thanks Jackie62 for the reassurance re bum tests, but to be honest I just dont know if I can do them. I have always been a very private person with things like this and I feel physically sick at the thought of going to get them done. I had two dreads in life one was growing old alone and the other was having bowel problems, looks like both have come true. I had just met a new man before all this was diagnosed and it was going great, we had been taking it slowly and getting to know each other and had planned a weekend away to get to know each other better :) but this has put a stop to it. I have called the whole thing off and maybe that is why I feel so down about everything. Anyway enough of my moaning. This site has been a godsend and I wish everyone all the best and thanks for making me feel a little bit better, and the information that I have got off here is amazing, the consultants at the hospital are always so aloof and seem to be in a hurry, but hopefully the gynae tomorrow will be better and put my mind at rest.