To not let dd have the HVP vaccination?

[DogGoneMad]

Dh and I really disagree on this.

You are a silly person

Educate yourself, you silly mare

You have the internet...use it

Has she had other vaccinations?

Have you researched this specific vaccination? If so, what are the stats on the effects of this so far? Has thee been reports of children being damaged by it?

Watching your daughter due of cervical cancer would be a lot scarier.

And it is HPV, not the abbreviation you said.

Unless you are asking about a completely different vaccination about which I know nothing.

Silly person

*die

A lot more people end up damaged or dead from the diseases that vaccines prevent. Anyway what evidence do you have for the damage you say is caused by vaccines?

YABU

I suggest you have another look at the statistics of side effects. Are they really significant enough to warrant her potentially contracting an infection that could kill her? Look at the rates of HPV and cervical cancer. Then decide.

Has she had the MMR and other childhood vaccinations? If so your argument makes no sense.

Has she had the MMR and other childhood vaccinations? If so your argument makes no sense.

my dd had it
she is severely disabled,
her friends had it
they are severely disabled
all were fine.
not trumping, but if young people like them are ok, I think your dd unless she has some big health concern will be ok

My friend died leaving four young children. If she'd had the jab they would be growing up with her still here.

It's a vaccination against CANCER. I wish it had been available when I was a teen.

Have just done a quick search on this. The (very rare) worst side effects of the vaccine is anaphalatic shock. Quoted from NHS website: "Severe reactions like this are very rare. From April 2008 to July 2010, there were 41 anaphylactic reactions reported to the Medicines and Healthcare Products Regulatory Agency (MHRA ? the medicines safety watchdog). Out of four million doses given from September 2008 to July 2010, that makes such reactions very unlikely."

Dog - your dd is very, very, very likely to catch the virus that causes cervical cancer. The risk of her being harmed by the virus is massive - the risk of any form of damage from the vaccine is minimal. It has been given to millions of girls across the world and the only negative effects shown have been the usual vaccination soreness and swelling around the site of the jab and a bit of schoolgirl hysteria when you have loads of people lined up all getting worked up (i.e. fainting before they even see a needle).

So when you weigh up benefits and risks, it's pretty conclusive. So much so that some of the experts involved in researching the vaccine have been vaccinated themselves, even though they aren't in the right age group so presumably any benefit would be minimal - but they still thought the vaccine was worth it (some early results show it may have some effect in older women who have already exposed to HPV but it's far too soon for anyone to recommend it generally).

I just googled it and found a Guardian article talking about a girl who died after having.
I'm not trying to be difficult, I'm genuinely worried.

(Oh yeah, sorry, forgot about anaphylaxis - it's so rare! And could happen with any injected medicine... anyway, as you were, risk of anaphylaxis vanishingly small, risk of acquiring HPV - almost certain.)

My DDs have had/will have it. DS would have it if possible (not sure what the current immunisation strategy.

Why on earth would you not? It isnt going to make her suddenly rush out and have sex. It is going to help protect her from a preventable disease.

Edam, thank you. That's a hugely helpful post

Four million doses, one death (and I am not sure if that is directly related to the vaccine). I think I would take the chance.

You mean the child with the underlying condition? That's the only death so far IIRC.

Doggone, that's just because if you do something with millions of people, some of those people will get ill. Any group of millions of people will include some people who get ill and some people who die within a short period of time. That's the human condition. If you took a group of millions of people and gave them all a banana, you'd still have lots of illness and death - wouldn't have anything to do with the banana, would just be what would have happened anyway.

Edam, you might just have saved DGM's DD

btw, all the docs and researchers I interviewed at the time when I was writing about this said they'd pay for their kids to have the one that also protects against genital warts - gardasil, IIRC? Not the one the NHS does. Just because it's quite handy to be protected against warts as well - very unpleasant.