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MMR again!! Baby Leo had Singles!!

129 replies

pfer · 08/11/2005 07:44

Anyone else catch the paper headlines on TV this morning. Allegedly a Doctor has told them that baby Leo had the single jabs. If this is true I feel a little decieved.

I'd always make my own choice anyway but for Tony to say quite categorically that it's safe then go for the other option.......hmmmm

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aloha · 08/11/2005 13:22

If TB kept his nose out of my business - instead of making it nearly impossible to get mumps single vaccines - i'd be mroe tolerant about people keeping their noses out of his business.
The mercury in vaccinations is a huge and disgusting disgrace. But I'm not surprised. He's happy to kill people abroad, why should we expect him care about anyone but himself?

bosscat · 08/11/2005 13:24

I knew it. their attitude at the time sickened me. it was the main thing which put me off blair actually. they wheeled those kids out for photo calls whenever they felt like it but then said they had a right to privacy over things like MMR. no you don't. you are telling everyone else what they should do so we have a right to know what you are doing. they only reason to keep mum about it was because they hadn't practised what they preached.

JoolsToo · 08/11/2005 13:26

am not in the least bit surprised - did the same with schools didn't he

don't do as I do, do as I say

Harrizeb · 08/11/2005 13:41

Thanks for the info about the jabs website I've had a look.

While doing internet research about imm's in general trying to build a case to get in the loop hole for DS to get his as singles and on the NHS due to family auto immune illness discovered that there is a known and accepted rate of harm caused by all imms - saw a specialist pediatric consultant to argue case for ds single jabs and he confirmed this.

They don't tell you this when they are advertising imms as the best thing since sliced bread. Multiple imms don't last a life time - usually only 2 or 3 years, the booster there for isn't a booster but a re-immunisation(might have a mixed understanding about what a booster is though). Single jabs are absorbed better into the immune system and have a longer lasting effect - up to 5 or 6 years I think so still not the life time protection you are led to believe. Jabs don't give much more than about 70 -80% protection that the best that they can hope for and that's after 3 sets of injections.

Sorry I am ranting again. The preservative wasn't removed from the immunisations here because the government wanted the stock pile used up, was too expensive to just write it off.

He's a lying toad.

TinyGang · 08/11/2005 13:43

Well said aloha - if TB stayed out of my business, I'd be happy for him to have the same freedom.

My theory is that by not having used mmr they are admitting there is still a question mark about it - even if it remains unproven - for some children.

If they are not 100 pc behind it and leading by example then doesn't the door to the world of compensation (which the govt must surely dread) begin to creak open? It makes a bit of a mockery of all he's said on the subject in the past, for sure.

PreggieMum · 08/11/2005 14:19

I thought this was already common knowledge?! I heard this from someone a while ago. They told me that he had the single vaccination whilst in Italy. Apparently as this was the only time that he could have it done when the family were all together (or something like that).

Does anyone have a link to the article?

Socci · 08/11/2005 14:35

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hunkermunker · 08/11/2005 14:37

Wonder if it'll come up at PMQs?

Fauve · 08/11/2005 14:40

JT, re schools, I'm told (by people who know people who know them, allegedly, etc) that the Blair kids are resentful that they've had to go to state schools anyway, due to daddy's politics, when they could've afforded to go private.

Maybe being damaged by the MMR was a bridge too far, though.

tortoiseshell · 08/11/2005 14:44

It's not TB's business though, is it, it's Leo's business. Have to be honest here, if I was TB, there is NO WAY I would release any information about my family's medical history etc. Partly because it is absolutely nothing to do with the general public, the family are not elected into office, only TB is, partly because of this 'silence means they did it' assumption. What would be the next question - has Cherie had HRT? Is his daughter on the pill? And if not, WHY NOT??? Conspiracy theories to the ready. Also, it is not just the party line on MMR, it is the WHO's line.

Don't all jump on me - I actually do believe that there should be research into which children may be at risk from the MMR vaccine, and they should be offered singles - as I understand it, the research into the safety of MMR has been largely epidemiological, and the corner cases of MMR damaged children will therefore slip through the statistics. But I do think the family of anyone in public life have the same right as anyone else to medical confidentiality, and given that this doctor who 'leaked' the information has broken all the ethics of medicine, I would not be 100% ready to believe the info anyway!

Angeliz · 08/11/2005 14:49

but he's not pushing for women to have HRT or go on the pill is he?

tamum · 08/11/2005 14:49

I can't quite disentangle my feelings here- he's being a raging hypocrite, but I agree that the doctor has been completely unprofessional if it's true that they leaked information. I don't think it says anything about what the government really think though, I would bet any money that it's Cherie's doing and he went along with it.

tortoiseshell · 08/11/2005 14:52

No, but I can see that if they disclosed information about one medical thing, it would give even more weight to the 'silence means conspiracy' assumption. Anyway, just looked up Leo Blair vaccines on google and found a times article from 2004 saying that he had the MMR when he was 18 months. So with 2 conflicting reports, which do you believe?

tortoiseshell · 08/11/2005 14:53

here for anyone who's interested

pfer · 08/11/2005 15:19

ts - just my opinion that as TB chose the career the has, just as celebs choose their careers, then they do forfiet a certain amount of privacy don't they? They choose to be in the private eye but be kept private. Just not possible.

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baka · 08/11/2005 15:22

dinosaur- thanks for the guardian link. The letter by Richard Halvorsen is so right. The Cochrane report concluded that the MMR safety trials were woefully inadequate.

Furball · 08/11/2005 15:36

Yes he does have a private family life, but, the point is, he tells us MMR blah blah blah then does the opposite for his own child. Those singles are something that alot more people would give their children if A) people could afford it and B) there wasn't such a shortgae of the darn things due to high demand! Why can't we all have singles? Oh yeah I forgot, MMR is SAFE and we airhead mothers wouldn't remember to turn up for three seperate appointments!

I wonder if singles were readily available through GPs, how many people would still opt for the 3 in 1 MMR?

MeAndMyBoy · 08/11/2005 15:52

In my opnion the trible and the new 5 in 1 jab is simply a cost cutting excerise. Only having to pay for 1 nurse appointment rather than the multiple ones required. Smaller number of needles, and accessories required. The list goes on.........

bundle · 08/11/2005 15:55

I had never thought for one second that Cherie with her crystals had let Leo have his MMR. more fool her.

ruty · 08/11/2005 15:58

great link dinosaur. I love Dr Halvorsen, i've seen him interviewed on channel 4 news. Why aren't there more doctors like him?

Normsnockers · 08/11/2005 16:14

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ruty · 08/11/2005 16:21

not quite end of story normsockers. Not if more children are going to get damaged by MMR because of his policies.

bunny2 · 08/11/2005 16:33

effin b*stard. Cant believe anyone really trusts him.

bunny2 · 08/11/2005 16:33

some people still voted him back in though

Socci · 08/11/2005 16:43

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